Recruiting AFL Trade & Free Agency XI - McKay. Goldstein. Gresham. Duursma!

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Dodo obviously does not understand it either

Nah, he does mate.

Losing a player for nothing is literally the same as trading a player for a pick we won’t use.
There is no “muck up” here. There is no aWwW bLoOdY dOdOrO.

It’s simply asking for something back that we can actually use. So far, hawthorn haven’t offered that. And they probably won’t. And fair play to them.
 
Don't understand how 25 + F4 + Duursma for BZT + Esava + some other pick is a bad deal.

Port being prima donnas.
Port are one of those that have to have a gun in their hand to be worthy of respect from their own fanbase. They really don’t want to bow to the pressure Geelong and Essendon are currently exerting.
 

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Nah, he does mate.

Losing a player for nothing is literally the same as trading a player for a pick we won’t use.
There is no “muck up” here. There is no aWwW bLoOdY dOdOrO.

It’s simply asking for something back that we can actually use. So far, hawthorn haven’t offered that. And they probably won’t. And fair play to them.
sure he does.... shakes head
 
A few observations I'd like to make about BZT before it's too late.

I doubt any of the commentators I listen to who talk about him realise he is 2 years older than Duursma.

He is Andy McGrath's age, drafted as a 19yo in 2017.

This idea that he will still fill out or develop significantly is, at best, optimistic.

Also, Port is the only club that is trying to sign him. He's not going home. He is going to Port Adelaide. Adelaide, which pretty badly needs a tall defender at least for next season, has never been in the discussion.

We signed McKay, and re-signed Baldwin.

I've had it on solid authority, which is likely good authority, that we lowballed his deal (to free up his list spot). The surrounding circumstances seem to support as much.
 
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Kinda feel for Shiel.
He was sold a dream coming to us (and bags of money). Played well enough for years.
He's been waiting quietly for the trades to happen in the background.

Meanwhile BZT has flown to Port, loves that place, told he media there is no way he's coming back and he'd rather go to the pre season draft.

If there is a deal that has to be made, make it Shiels.
 
Kinda feel for Shiel.
He was sold a dream coming to us (and bags of money). Played well enough for years.
He's been waiting quietly for the trades to happen in the background.

Meanwhile BZT has flown to Port, loves that place, told he media there is no way he's coming back and he'd rather go to the pre season draft.

If there is a deal that has to be made, make it Shiels.
I thought it was lemons 🍋?
 
Kinda feel for Shiel.
He was sold a dream coming to us (and bags of money). Played well enough for years.
He's been waiting quietly for the trades to happen in the background.

Meanwhile BZT has flown to Port, loves that place, told he media there is no way he's coming back and he'd rather go to the pre season draft.

If there is a deal that has to be made, make it Shiels.
no different to any other guy who retires without a flag, it’s sad sometimes but that’s the sport.
 
Yep, no-one's guaranteed success. Could have gone to any number of clubs with the same result. And to be fair I don't think he turned the needle much for us, so both club and player are left to rue.

Feel for Goddard - that's being sold a lemon. Anyone else, that's sport shrug
 
I thought it was lemons 🍋?
It was a bag of magic beans, actually.

IRT to BZT, pretty sure Kenny gave him a training plan before the end of the minor round.
 

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So Shiel is staying...

Awkward Ed Helms GIF by The Office
 
It's not our fault nobody wants to pony up anything remotely worth considering for Shiel. More tells him that if he wants to move on next year he needs to pull his finger out (and hopefully stay fit for a change).

He's in that awkward spot of maybe not being good enough to tip a contender over the edge and being too old for everyone else to bother give up anything decent.
 
Port has empty pockets at this point, their first pick in 2023 is 112 and next year they have a 2nd and a 3rd rounder still but they’re not allowed to trade them because they don’t have an F1 (or an F4) 🤣

BZT might have to make good on his promise to walk to the PSD at this rate
 
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