AFL wasting money overseas

[Philosophunculist]

You may say it is an "opinion" but when rugby league, union and soccer can offer something one-tenth as spectacular as the high mark i may take it seriously.

soccer is glorified lawn bowls, rugby is endless tackling and yet aust. footy offers the excitement of the highmark.

a few days ago i was flicking through that book on high marks and saw the picture of nikky winmar where he jumped so high that his foot was on a bloke's shoulder.
His foot... not his knee.. his foot.

Add that to Jeza's mark, sos's, buzz's and skinny's mark and you have a game that has no equal anywhere in the world.

Mate, agains that's your opinion, what you deem as exciting may not be neccesarily deemed exciting by someone else. As I like both Soccer and football fan find the high mark exciting, especially with the leap someone like Nicky Windmar has. But what I find equally breathtaking is watching a soccer player like Zinedine Zidane glide past two defenders with seeminly little effort and one touch of the ball and then lay a majestic 50 metre pin point cross to someone like Ronaldo who brings in down with instep of his ball like it's the easiest skill in the world (which it isn't, it's nloody hard), does a couple of stepovers beats his man, a chips the keeper from outside the box. Of course you may not find that exciting but Real Madrid the team they play for has 50 million viewers from around the world that tune in on a regular basis that do.

 

[LightTower4]

But what I find equally breathtaking is watching a soccer player like Zinedine Zidane glide past two defenders with seeminly little effort and one touch of the ball and then lay a majestic 50 metre pin point cross to someone like Ronaldo who brings in down with instep of his ball like it's the easiest skill in the world (which it isn't, it's nloody hard), does a couple of stepovers beats his man, a chips the keeper from outside the box. Of course you may not find that exciting but Real Madrid the team they play for has 50 million viewers from around the world that tune in on a regular basis that do.

Let's hope he wasn't offside!

 

[harmesy 37]

Mate, agains that's your opinion, what you deem as exciting may not be neccesarily deemed exciting by someone else. As I like both Soccer and football fan find the high mark exciting, especially with the leap someone like Nicky Windmar has. But what I find equally breathtaking is watching a soccer player like Zinedine Zidane glide past two defenders with seeminly little effort and one touch of the ball and then lay a majestic 50 metre pin point cross to someone like Ronaldo who brings in down with instep of his ball like it's the easiest skill in the world (which it isn't, it's nloody hard), does a couple of stepovers beats his man, a chips the keeper from outside the box. Of course you may not find that exciting but Real Madrid the team they play for has 50 million viewers from around the world that tune in on a regular basis that do.

Those type of ball skills you get in Aussie Rules too.... no biggy there.

Instep, yep cross it off your list. seen it thousands of times in AFL.

50 metre pass? in soccer???.... i doubt that happens very often. Well it hasn't occured often in the games i have watched, but let's assume it happens all the time in soccer - cross it off. also happens in AFL. I still remember a pass pritchard did in the 1989 grand final that was across his body while travelling at full pace.. hard yaka... right on dunstall's chest.. brilliant.

glide past two defenders... yep cross it off. i saw footage of a geelong player on classical footy video gliding past 6 players.

stepovers.. similar to the baulk, feigning etc.. so cross it off once again.

chip kicks, yep cross it off. also done in afl.


by the way... if ronaldo decided to do half of that stuff in the box he would have saved a lot of time and energy by pretending he got tripped over and therefore receive a free kick. A lot quicker and same result.

I am sure you will come up with some excuse for soccer. Can't compare skills etc... but the FACT is that both AFL and soccer have ball skills but neither soccer, rugby union or league have anything like the high mark. It is what separates AFL from every other sport in the world and no matter how much you have been brainwashed that is a fact.

What about rugby? ...next you will be telling me that rugby is a more skillful and faster game than AFL...can't wait for that one.

 

[Philosophunculist]

Those type of ball skills you get in Aussie Rules too.... no biggy there.

Instep, yep cross it off your list. seen it thousands of times in AFL.

50 metre pass? in soccer???.... i doubt that happens very often. Well it hasn't occured often in the games i have watched, but let's assume it happens all the time in soccer - cross it off. also happens in AFL. I still remember a pass pritchard did in the 1989 grand final that was across his body while travelling at full pace.. hard yaka... right on dunstall's chest.. brilliant.

glide past two defenders... yep cross it off. i saw footage of a geelong player on classical footy video gliding past 6 players.

stepovers.. similar to the baulk, feigning etc.. so cross it off once again.

chip kicks, yep cross it off. also done in afl.


by the way... if ronaldo decided to do half of that stuff in the box he would have saved a lot of time and energy by pretending he got tripped over and therefore receive a free kick. A lot quicker and same result.

I am sure you will come up with some excuse for soccer. Can't compare skills etc... but the FACT is that both AFL and soccer have ball skills but neither soccer, rugby union or league have anything like the high mark. It is what separates AFL from every other sport in the world and no matter how much you have been brainwashed that is a fact.

What about rugby? ...next you will be telling me that rugby is a more skillful and faster game than AFL...can't wait for that one.

Please tell me when in Australian Rules Football do you control a long ball in the air with the instep of your foot without the use of your hands? You don't you mark the bloody thing. If someone brings down with the instep of their foot they're going to get creamed by an opponent and then interchanged so the coach can give them the rollocking of their lives.

There's totally different skills required for both sports, Unless your a goalkeeper of course, you're a clueless ******** if you think otherwise. I've played both sports at a decent level, They're completely different.

As for the highmark, yeah it's great, but do you think that makes AFL such a better sport than any other your delusional.

BTW soccer players aren't exactly bad at getting some air in their leaps rither, especially when you condiser heading the ball accurately towards goal is much harder then catching it.

 

[MarkT]

Let's get realistic here.

My nearly 3 year old son can and does kick a soccer ball from one end of the park to the other and has been able to that for over a year. He can't catch, handball or kick (other than off the ground) an over ball. There are I don't know how many millions of soccer players in the world. Without any doubt some of them are fantastic athletes and have some remarkable skills. However they have far fewer skills to concentrate on and hone and they have a far narrower range of abilities required to be elite at their sport. Yes it is a real skill to kick a soccer ball like Beckham. It is a more difficult skill to kick an oval ball like ours to an average level than it is to do likewise with a soccer ball. You have to be able to take a hit. In fact the absence of an offside rules means you will take plenty. The mere fact that the ball can come from any angle is an aspect to deal with in itself adn tackling from behind is a fairly unique aspect. In addition you need to be quick, strong, explosive, durable and very fit to play Aussie rules and that is just to a level that can be provided by a country of 20m, half of whom are from not AR areas and half the rest of whom are female with a significant portion of the remainder being too old or too young.

Soccer at the elite level is a good sport to watch and is no doubt difficult to master. It is however a SIGNIFICANTLY easier and a SIGNIFICANTLY narrower skill band sport than Australian Rules.

 

[Philosophunculist]

Let's get realistic here.

My nearly 3 year old son can and does kick a soccer ball from one end of the park to the other and has been able to that for over a year. He can't catch, handball or kick (other than off the ground) an over ball. There are I don't know how many millions of soccer players in the world. Without any doubt some of them are fantastic athletes and have some remarkable skills. However they have far fewer skills to concentrate on and hone and they have a far narrower range of abilities required to be elite at their sport. Yes it is a real skill to kick a soccer ball like Beckham. It is a more difficult skill to kick an oval ball like ours to an average level than it is to do likewise with a soccer ball. You have to be able to take a hit. In fact the absence of an offside rules means you will take plenty. The mere fact that the ball can come from any angle is an aspect to deal with in itself adn tackling from behind is a fairly unique aspect. In addition you need to be quick, strong, explosive, durable and very fit to play Aussie rules and that is just to a level that can be provided by a country of 20m, half of whom are from not AR areas and half the rest of whom are female with a significant portion of the remainder being too old or too young.

Soccer at the elite level is a good sport to watch and is no doubt difficult to master. It is however a SIGNIFICANTLY easier and a SIGNIFICANTLY narrower skill band sport than Australian Rules.

That's not being realistic at all. Aussie Rules is a much more physically demanding sport due to the physical nature of the game, there's no doubt about. This is why Soccer is played more by females and kids, not because it's less skillful. In mens Soccer, at a decent to the highest level it's still an exhausting sport. You only have to watch English or Scottish soccer to appreciate how physical the sport can played at, of course it's not as physical as the AFL, but it still takes it's toll on the players. Especially at the pace it's played at in those countries. Manchester United players for example have a requirement to do better than 18 of the 20m beep test or they are not considered. Their just departed Captain Roy Keane was doing 21s at the age 32. and has had a knee reconstruction and requires a hip replacement when by the time he's 40. It's a lot more demanding than you give it credit for. Sure if you go watch kids play, or have a kick around at the park, or play some indoor soccer, you think this is nothing, especially when Referees at this level are told to crack down of physical play. but it's not a soft sport, nor it is one that is easy on the body, when played by fully grown men.

As for your son kicking a ball far, that's fantastic. However, If you think kicking a ball is the full extend of the skills reuired to play soccer you've got rocks in your head. Controlling the ball is the hardest of the skills to master and you have to learn how to do it with the every part of your body expect your hands. If you don't have good control or fist touch and the ball travels to far from you, then it's impossible to retain possesion, at resonable levels defenders close you down so quickly that you have to keep the ball within a yard of you or otherwise you lose it. And then there's dribbling, heading, tackling, jocking and a whole range of other skills that are required to play the sport properly...and what is this nonsense about a ball only coming from a full range of angles in footy, it does in soccer as well. It's a game that played both on the floor and in the air. Most teams implement what they call a mixed passing game which is a combination of a short and long passing game.

Look, unless you've played both games at a decent level you don't appreciate how hard both sports are. You and other Footy mad people think Soccer is an easy sport to master for example (how hard is it kick are round ball right), well Soccer nuts think the skills involved in AFL like marking and kicking are dead easy. Rugby fans think they have the hardest and most skillful sport in the world and only sissys play soccer and AFL. Where an American will tell you it's Gridiron that requires the most skill.

It's a matter or opinion, and usually the people making these opinions are so biased towards one sport it's not funny.

You are trying to pass your opinion of as fact, when it's anything but. Just because you think AFL is more skillful than any other code it doesn't mean that it is. Get over yourself please.

 

[fishmonger]

Please tell me when in Australian Rules Football do you control a long ball in the air with the instep of your foot without the use of your hands? You don't you mark the bloody thing. If someone brings down with the instep of their foot they're going to get creamed by an opponent and then interchanged so the coach can give them the rollocking of their lives.

There's totally different skills required for both sports, Unless your a goalkeeper of course, you're a clueless ******** if you think otherwise. I've played both sports at a decent level, They're completely different.

As for the highmark, yeah it's great, but do you think that makes AFL such a better sport than any other your delusional.

BTW soccer players aren't exactly bad at getting some air in their leaps rither, especially when you condiser heading the ball accurately towards goal is much harder then catching it.

cool, let's post soccer photos on an AFL board ! yer that makes sense.

Yes, you very occassionally see these things in rugby as well.
In Union, they have line-outs and in rugby league they have the high ball.
In fact, I occasionaly see girls at weddings jump up high to catch a bouquet but I don't get that excited over it.

Point is, you don't see it as often as you do in AFL. I just appreciate how hard it is to catch the ball when you have full contact with other players flying in multiple directions at you. And given that many spekkies result in being awared a shot at goal that actually has a chance of scoring makes it all the merrier.

Seriously, watching soccer, I can't believe how many times they completely miss when kicking for goal. They aren't even always under that much pressure. Like Viduka's pathetic kick at goal. When they do the replays, the commentators are always saying "just missed the net", when it is clearly 10 or 20 metres away. Surely you think they'd learn to be able to kick the round ball with a modicum of accuracy.

As for that second photo , I thought only rugby had bum sniffers.

 

[Philosophunculist]

Seriously, watching soccer, I can't believe how many times they completely miss when kicking for goal. They aren't even always under that much pressure. Like Viduka's pathetic kick at goal. When they do the replays, the commentators are always saying "just missed the net", when it is clearly 10 or 20 metres away. Surely you think they'd learn to be able to kick the round ball with a modicum of accuracy.

Just proves it's a lot harder skill than you think it is.

 

[MarkT]

Aussie Rules is a much more physically demanding sport due to the physical nature of the game, there's no doubt about. This is why Soccer is played more by females and kids, not because it's less skillful.

One reason so many kids and females play soccer is that it is less physical and there is less chance of getting hurt. That is why the relative growth in female primary school teaches has led in part to growth of soccer at the expense of Australian Rules in primary schools.

Another reason is that it is MUCH easier for kids to play. I don’t know if you have kids but ask anyone who does. Go to Dendy Park on a Sat./Sun morninig and you will see multiple kids soccer matches. The only thing limiting the age of the players is the ability to understand and follow instructions. Physically very young children can play the game. They simply don’t have the co ordination and motor skills to play AFL. Not even to just kick the ball from a standing start. This also why primary teachers encourage soccer. It is far more inclusive because at that level almost any able bodied child can have a crack and get a kick.

In mens Soccer, at a decent to the highest level it's still an exhausting sport.

Yes it is but less so than Aust. Rules. For one thing you have less time in a game and for another you don’t get hit anywhere near like you do in AR. Getting hit tires you out as well as hurting you and reducing yiour powers of concentration. The fact is, AR is one of the most demanding sports there is. It is nonsense to say all sports are equal. They can’t possibly be. I’m not canning soccer – I’m just comparing it to one the most physically and mentally demanding sports to play as well as once with a very broad skill set. The one thing about AR that I like but which does make it easier to play is the range of body types that can find a role. There aren’t many 5’ 6” basketballers but in the AFL you can win the award for best in the comp at under 5’ 6” or near on (and before too long I suspect over) 7’.

As for your son kicking a ball far, that's fantastic. However, If you think kicking a ball is the full extend of the skills reuired to play soccer you've got rocks in your head.

For clarity, I mean dribbling it across the park not long kicking it. I don’t think that is all there is to the game at all. I actually don’t mind the game at a European type level. I’m not anti soccer at all.

Controlling the ball is the hardest of the skills to master and you have to learn how to do it with the every part of your body expect your hands.

How long did it take you to learn how to run and bounce an oval ball? It isn’t easier to control the oval ball than it is to control the ball in soccer because you can use your hands at all. That is just not true. It is oval and bouncing is every bit a skill as anything in soccer. Soccer doesn’t rely more on quality first touch than AR. It does provide for more predicability on the bounce through.

Look, unless you've played both games at a decent level you don't appreciate how hard both sports are. You and other Footy mad people think Soccer is an easy sport to master for example (how hard is it kick are round ball right), well Soccer nuts think the skills involved in AFL like marking and kicking are dead easy. Rugby fans think they have the hardest and most skillful sport in the world and only sissys play soccer and AFL. Where an American will tell you it's Gridiron that requires the most skill.

Yes but someone has to be right.

You are trying to pass your opinion of as fact, when it's anything but. Just because you think AFL is more skillful than any other code it doesn't mean that it is. Get over yourself please.

It isn’t more skilful because I think it is at all. I think it is because it is. Yes I grew up on AR. Yes I am biased. Yes I am still correct. I got nuthin’ to get over. I don’t have to go onto a board for another sport to argue anything. I don’t have any insecurity to drive me.

Look, as I have said, I don’t have the slightest doubt that at the highest level some awesome athletes play some awesome soccer with awesome skills. I love to watch it too. I like sport. That isn’t the issue though. We are talking relativities and whether or not you want to confine comparisons to the elite or drill down to the bottom level the fact is there are more varied skills required in AR and it is longer and more physical game to boot. If I am passing opinion off as fact in saying then sobeit. What else can you do when discussing relativities? The FACT is that one of the two has to be superior in the context of what we have been discussing. It is silly to suggest otherwise. The only way it could be otherwise is if they were the same and thankfully they aren’t. Thankfully in Australia we had a viable alternative lacking in Europe and South America.

 

[Philosophunculist]

Look Mark you've never played the game at a decent level so I wouldn't expect you to understand. Your opinion is one of bias, and with the preconcieved ideas you have and the fact you are a footy mad person. I don't think you fully appreciate what Soccer is all about.

Soccer, to be played properly, not by kids having a kick around on a sunday morning, women who are doing it for a bit of exercise, takes more skill, balance, coordination, strength, agility, speed and mental attributes than you could ever understand or would ever give it credit for. The ranges of skill are completely different to Australian Rules Football.

It's a stupid comparision, but if you truly believe that AFL is the far superior sport then I'm glad for you. Just like I'm glad for the billions of people around the world that think Soccer is.

As for me being insecure, I'm far from it. I love both sports. If you look through my posts I have been saying all along that AFL has nothing to worry about from Soccers new found popularity. It won't affect the AFL in the slightest. Just like Footy will never affect the popularity of the World Game.

 

[Underdog]

I agree with Philosophunculist, so many people here just have no real idea about soccer.

 

[Treasurer]

One reason so many kids and females play soccer is that it is less physical and there is less chance of getting hurt. That is why the relative growth in female primary school teaches has led in part to growth of soccer at the expense of Australian Rules in primary schools.

Another reason is that it is MUCH easier for kids to play. I don’t know if you have kids but ask anyone who does. Go to Dendy Park on a Sat./Sun morninig and you will see multiple kids soccer matches. The only thing limiting the age of the players is the ability to understand and follow instructions. Physically very young children can play the game. They simply don’t have the co ordination and motor skills to play AFL. Not even to just kick the ball from a standing start. This also why primary teachers encourage soccer. It is far more inclusive because at that level almost any able bodied child can have a crack and get a kick. Yes it is but less so than Aust. Rules. For one thing you have less time in a game and for another you don’t get hit anywhere near like you do in AR. Getting hit tires you out as well as hurting you and reducing yiour powers of concentration. The fact is, AR is one of the most demanding sports there is. It is nonsense to say all sports are equal. They can’t possibly be. I’m not canning soccer – I’m just comparing it to one the most physically and mentally demanding sports to play as well as once with a very broad skill set. The one thing about AR that I like but which does make it easier to play is the range of body types that can find a role. There aren’t many 5’ 6” basketballers but in the AFL you can win the award for best in the comp at under 5’ 6” or near on (and before too long I suspect over) 7’. For clarity, I mean dribbling it across the park not long kicking it. I don’t think that is all there is to the game at all. I actually don’t mind the game at a European type level. I’m not anti soccer at all.
How long did it take you to learn how to run and bounce an oval ball? It isn’t easier to control the oval ball than it is to control the ball in soccer because you can use your hands at all. That is just not true. It is oval and bouncing is every bit a skill as anything in soccer. Soccer doesn’t rely more on quality first touch than AR. It does provide for more predicability on the bounce through.
Yes but someone has to be right.
It isn’t more skilful because I think it is at all. I think it is because it is. Yes I grew up on AR. Yes I am biased. Yes I am still correct. I got nuthin’ to get over. I don’t have to go onto a board for another sport to argue anything. I don’t have any insecurity to drive me.

Look, as I have said, I don’t have the slightest doubt that at the highest level some awesome athletes play some awesome soccer with awesome skills. I love to watch it too. I like sport. That isn’t the issue though. We are talking relativities and whether or not you want to confine comparisons to the elite or drill down to the bottom level the fact is there are more varied skills required in AR and it is longer and more physical game to boot. If I am passing opinion off as fact in saying then sobeit. What else can you do when discussing relativities? The FACT is that one of the two has to be superior in the context of what we have been discussing. It is silly to suggest otherwise. The only way it could be otherwise is if they were the same and thankfully they aren’t. Thankfully in Australia we had a viable alternative lacking in Europe and South America.

idiot.

 

[MarkT]

Look Mark you've never played the game at a decent level so I wouldn't expect you to understand.

I’ve never played Australia Rules at a decent level either. What does that have to do with it? I have played both at a park and school level. I was never very talented. Growing up and going to high school in the Western Suburbs of Melbourne soccer was pretty big and some of the kids I went to school with were pretty bloody good. More to the point though, at the base level it is fundamentally easier to play soccer than AR. The objective evidence is to be seen in small children. That may not be conclusive to you but it cover more than what you write off as mere opinion. No doubt as you rise up the levels it gets harder and more skilful but that is true of every sport.

If everyone that hasn’t turned pro can’t have a valid opinion what’s the point of the discussion?

Now what level have you played both to that makes your understanding superior to mine?

Just like I'm glad for the billions of people around the world that think Soccer is.

That is inaccurate. These billions of people around the world don’t think that because they don’t know what AR is. How can they think something is superior to something they have no awareness of?


Now just for clarity, I have no issue with soccer and as a sport I like it. What I do think is odd though (and I have heard this all my life from soccer fans) is the cliché that soccer is more skilful than AR because you can’t use your feet. Fundamentally it is wrong. For a start using more limbs requires more muscle and brain co ordination but that’s only the half of it.

 

[Treasurer]

HAHAHAHHAH LOL @MarkT

So your saying that Aussie Rules "our game" has the potential to be Loved by Billions of People!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAH 30 years of trying to get into Sydney and Failign and people think that it could be a hugely popular World game. Your Wrong you Muppet!

Its got nothing to skill! its all about Interest. Some people Find AFL more interesting than Soccer some the Other way around. Contradictory to what Mike Sheahan thinks I enjoy watching Soccer more than AFL but that my opinion. That Alsodoesn't mean that i don't find AFL exciting or Rugby Union.

 

[fabulousphil]

HAHAHAHHAH LOL @MarkT

So your saying that Aussie Rules "our game" has the potential to be Loved by Billions of People!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAH 30 years of trying to get into Sydney and Failign and people think that it could be a hugely popular World game. Your Wrong you Muppet!

QUOTE]

Words that come to mind when reading your posts are ...sad ...little...pathetic...man...

 

[Treasurer]

why is that?

 

[fabulousphil]

you dont know?

 

[David Votoupal]

Well, you can just explain it like this.

Soccer, League and Union all rely on gradual build-up of play with a focus on tactics and momentum and think it's the best way to showcase outstanding individual skills. That's something some Aussie Rules fans can't get, but guess what, those raised on those codes probably don't get the aspects of Australian football either.

Likewise, the rugby codes have rigid positioning which comes as a result of radically different requirements for different positions on the field. While soccer and Australian football allow for much greater flexibility in this regard.

The point being, that one sport is not inferior to another, they're just DIFFERENT. And when people are raised on one, they might find it difficult to appreciate others because they don't understand those differences.

There's been many moments in soccer, League and Union that are worth watching over the decades, some extremely memorable teams and players, as well as memorable games. You see that big upsets are far more common in those codes- e.g. upsets in Rugby League finals, upsets in soccer's World Cup and big leagues, and so forth. Those are moments are just some of those things that makes those games great, but if people don't get it then it's fine by me.

 

[Treasurer]

Not sure but you support a sad, little pathetic, club

 

[fabulousphil]

Not sure but you support a sad, little pathetic, club

Yes i do support a Australian football club.....thats why i am here what about yourself why are you.

 

[Philosophunculist]

I’ve never played Australia Rules at a decent level either. What does that have to do with it? I have played both at a park and school level. I was never very talented. Growing up and going to high school in the Western Suburbs of Melbourne soccer was pretty big and some of the kids I went to school with were pretty bloody good. More to the point though, at the base level it is fundamentally easier to play soccer than AR. The objective evidence is to be seen in small children. That may not be conclusive to you but it cover more than what you write off as mere opinion. No doubt as you rise up the levels it gets harder and more skilful but that is true of every sport.

If everyone that hasn’t turned pro can’t have a valid opinion what’s the point of the discussion?

Now what level have you played both to that makes your understanding superior to mine?
That is inaccurate. These billions of people around the world don’t think that because they don’t know what AR is. How can they think something is superior to something they have no awareness of?


Now just for clarity, I have no issue with soccer and as a sport I like it. What I do think is odd though (and I have heard this all my life from soccer fans) is the cliché that soccer is more skilful than AR because you can’t use your feet. Fundamentally it is wrong. For a start using more limbs requires more muscle and brain co ordination but that’s only the half of it.

MarkT,

Let's get one thing straight more kids don't play soccer because it's a fundamentally easy game, that's a load of bollocks. It's because at that age level it's a non-contact sport and parents, teachers and the like deem it to be a much safer sport than AFL. Same with women, they aren't to keen on coming home with bumbs and bruises, swollen eyes, dislocated shoulders and cuts.

You ask what level I've played, well I played for my state at Schoolboy level at bother Soccer and Aussie Rules, Later I moved to NSW where I then played two seasons for Blacktown nd I also played non-league soccer in England for three years in the Combined Counties Football League which is a semi-proffesional competition.

As for your nonsense about limbs, biometrically it's a lot more harder to undertake skills with you feet than with your arms. Human's have been using there hands and arms for thousands of years for building, writing, throwing, painting, eating, drinking and whatever else.

Anyway, as I said it's stupid to compare the sports on a skills basis as they are completely different.

 

[ChrisFooty]

soccer = world game

AFL = vic,sa, wa, tas, nt

 

[MarkT]

HAHAHAHHAH LOL @MarkT

So your saying that Aussie Rules "our game" has the potential to be Loved by Billions of People!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAH 30 years of trying to get into Sydney and Failign and people think that it could be a hugely popular World game. Your Wrong you Muppet!

Bearing in mind the title of this thread, why don't you read my original posts. Similarly in related threads, I have said it is a waste of time trying to push AR in overseas markets. The best that could be hoped for is a bit of cable TV revenue.

 

[MarkT]

Philosophunculist, I don’t think there is much point continuing on. I reckon we’ve both made all the relevant pints there are to make and obviously we have our own views. I leave it at:
I like both sports at the elite level, I think soccer is easier to play and AR has a broader skill set and is more demanding. I don't think your genetic athletic ability is relevant and in fact when assessing such things I think a lack of ability makes for a better comparative assessment. I know you disagree and that’s fine. Thanks for a sensible debate.

 

[mark73]

Yes and that's why -
New Zealand are the World Champions at Australian Football .
New Zealand players are now playing in Australia .
New Zealand has way more AR players than Victoria has RL participants .
That funding is producing results .
When you consider each player needs at least an outfit and a football that's a financial return already .

hang on buddy....you can't have you're cake and eat it too....you asked him to provide evidence of a country and he did...