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I think a key part of Sanders' success is that he's been able to frame left wing ideas as common sense solutions, something that conservatives have generally succeeded at in recent times and something I think a lot of leftists struggle with. AOC seems to have tapped into this a little while following him on the road here, and hopefully this experience will remind her where her bread's buttered and make for a better run for her in 2028. Walz' rallies have also been pretty impressive, and I'd like to think those being on the front foot now will reap better dividends when the next election rolls around.
 
Dem's 2016, stop Bernie in favour of Hillary

2020, again stop Bernie in favour of Biden

2024, don't do a primary

I think we all know they won't have anyone slightly in the socialists areas, Schumer signing off on the bills just shows this.

AOC and Waltz(sic) would have(will) won, Bernie gonna die soon but he did his best
 

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That Ezra Klein guy nailed it. The Ds have the messages, but who is listening to them. If you're not actively interested or engaged in news and politics, you wouldn't have a clue what is happening until it hits you. Trump is brilliant at getting through to people who don't follow the news.
People who pay attention to the news vote D. Those that don't vote R.
Yes re Trump getting through to people who don't follow the news. The democratic establishment don't have any compelling message. AOC and Bernie do.
 
Dem's 2016, stop Bernie in favour of Hillary

2020, again stop Bernie in favour of Biden

2024, don't do a primary

I think we all know they won't have anyone slightly in the socialists areas, Schumer signing off on the bills just shows this.

AOC and Waltz(sic) would have(will) won, Bernie gonna die soon but he did his best
Thats why the DNC needs a hostile takeover.
 
Dem's 2016, stop Bernie in favour of Hillary

2020, again stop Bernie in favour of Biden

2024, don't do a primary

I think we all know they won't have anyone slightly in the socialists areas, Schumer signing off on the bills just shows this.

AOC and Waltz(sic) would have(will) won, Bernie gonna die soon but he did his best

don’t underestimate the influence of progressives. it’s not only bernie and aoc, it’s just they are showing way.

as the killing of democracy and loss of service and rights due to the trump kleptocracy grows his ratings will plummet. and those too timid to make a stand will grow a pair. remember, there are heaps of repulse- iv - ans who have let it be known what a low intelligent scumbag he is who have fallen into line - starting with vance,


 
don’t underestimate the influence of progressives. it’s not only bernie and aoc, it’s just they are showing way.

as the killing of democracy and loss of service and rights due to the trump kleptocracy grows his ratings will plummet. and those too timid to make a stand will grow a pair. remember, there are heaps of repulse- iv - ans who have let it be known what a low intelligent scumbag he is who have fallen into line - starting with vance,



Rude. That was 2021, They're working at making that number higher with abortion laws which increase death rates. (You're not allowed to terminate unviable pregnancies, you have to wait until they die and hope they don't kill the mum)
 
don’t underestimate the influence of progressives. it’s not only bernie and aoc, it’s just they are showing way.

as the killing of democracy and loss of service and rights due to the trump kleptocracy grows his ratings will plummet. and those too timid to make a stand will grow a pair. remember, there are heaps of repulse- iv - ans who have let it be known what a low intelligent scumbag he is who have fallen into line - starting with vance,



I don't doubt that there's many progressive people/voters in the US, It's more that the democratic establishment(oligarchs) won't allow them a candidate that suits
 
Go Bernie. Go AOC. They are beauties.
Saw a response to a Bernie comment about the oligarchy - someone complaining about the woke agenda of Biden. Imagine being such a duffer that you find being woke more offensive that about 100 seriously offensive things trump is doing. Unfathomable.
Sigh Americans. Where is frank zappa when you need him.
 
don’t underestimate the influence of progressives. it’s not only bernie and aoc, it’s just they are showing way.

as the killing of democracy and loss of service and rights due to the trump kleptocracy grows his ratings will plummet. and those too timid to make a stand will grow a pair. remember, there are heaps of repulse- iv - ans who have let it be known what a low intelligent scumbag he is who have fallen into line - starting with vance,



And it is my sincere and strong hope that as soon as Trump is gone (one way or the other), that the Ds in DC and local ones, get on every soapbox, media show, and stage and over and over remind and condemn each and every one of them as cowards and traitors, who chose to serve themselves at the expense of them their constituents and fellow Americans.
They must not be allowed to continue in office.
 
will never happen, they are so entrenched
New party then, either way corporate Dems are useless and part of the problem. A new party without the stench of HR smug performative wokeness, while cosying up to billionaires, would be a great start. Doesn't have to be a party throwing anyone under the bus (doesn't have to be anti black/brown people, not anti trans, not anti gay/lesbian or whatever), just needs to be a message FOR ALL PEOPLE that the common enemy is the oligarchy.
 

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I don't doubt that there's many progressive people/voters in the US, It's more that the democratic establishment(oligarchs) won't allow them a candidate that suits
not true.

another progressive getting bolshie. go get the bastards.


“The answer is to very publicly, very loudly, very boldly, stand up. The only way to fight fascism, and this has been proven over and over and over again, is loudly, proudly, and every single day.”

 
What a doozie of a thread. AOC is a moron. She's a 35 year old member of US House of Reps that still carries on like a hysterical 20 year old getting into politics at university for the first time.

Had the Democrats made her the presidential candidate instead of Kamala Harris then Trump would've won at a trot rather than a canter.
 
What a doozie of a thread. AOC is a moron. She's a 35 year old member of US House of Reps that still carries on like a hysterical 20 year old getting into politics at university for the first time.

Had the Democrats made her the presidential candidate instead of Kamala Harris then Trump would've won at a trot rather than a canter.

What makes her a moron?
 
What a doozie of a thread. AOC is a moron. She's a 35 year old member of US House of Reps that still carries on like a hysterical 20 year old getting into politics at university for the first time.

Had the Democrats made her the presidential candidate instead of Kamala Harris then Trump would've won at a trot rather than a canter.
A moron, huh? I beg to differ. This is what Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is all about.

 
If she's such a non-issue, why do the fox scum continuously go on about her ?
the poster is - to be very kind - unenlightened. aoc has only recently been appointed to one of the most powerful house committees.

“The Energy and Commerce Committee has the power to guarantee health care as a human right to all Americans, fight the global crisis of climate change, and make life easier for the working class"
 
If she's such a non-issue, why do the fox scum continuously go on about her ?

Because they are also idiots and go after low hanging fruit.

A normal person on the blue side of the aisle saying normal things that you might not necessarily agree with is a poor basis for rage bait.
 

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