All Elite Wrestling

[Cleavy]

Especially considering apart from Brit and Saraya and to a lesser extent Rosa, none of their women are particularly over.

Shida and Riho?

 

[RedmanWasHere]

The Casey Cat.

Were you The Sim Dog once with a Corey Enright headshot as a profile photo?

 

[The Casey Cat]

The Casey Cat.

Were you The Sim Dog once with a Corey Enright headshot as a profile photo?

Yes

 

[RedmanWasHere]

Yes

Thought so.

When I saw The Casey Cat, I thought it was someone new.

Then, when I saw the post count and your year of joining, I put 2 and 2 together and wondered if Casey was locational.

Anyway, back to AEW.

 

[RossFC]

I hope AEW 'read the room' regarding Hayter. It's good to do long term stories but if crowd is ready and wanting someone to break out like they are with Hayter it's also important to go with that. Especially considering apart from Brit and Saraya and to a lesser extent Rosa, none of their women are particularly over.

Maybe they can do a non-championship womens feud between Britt and Hayter at some point.

 

[The Casey Cat]

Maybe they can do a non-championship womens feud between Britt and Hayer at some point.

Yea I can see Brit v Hayter being the plan for Full Gear but hopefully the reaction for Hayter hasn't died down by then.

 

[Gak Attack]

It would be great to have the title on the line with a Hayter Brit feud but they're kind of stuck with the interim title.

 

[Millky95]

That Sapp dude seems like a real turd.

Think he was the guy who first dropped Punk going to AEW with a particular date and has been riding that ever since

 

[RossFC]

This guy is nuts.

 

[RossFC]

On AEW Elevation this week: (Paul Wight and Ian Riccaboni on commentary)
Brian Cage vs Tracy Williams
Lance Archer vs Cheeseburger
Dalton Castle and The Boys defended the ROH 6 man tag titles
Lucha Brothers vs Dante Martin and Tony Deppen
8 man tag: Best Friends, Rocky Romero and Danhausen vs The Factory

Brian Cage also cut a promo in a video package challenging Wardlow for the TNT title for Dynamite

 

[jabba5114]

This guy is nuts.

Definitely doesn't want to see old age

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[Quivorir]

You say he's nuts. I say he's an idiot.

 

[Nugett]

This guy is nuts.

i saw an idiot do something similar at Turpin Falls back in the early 90’s. On his jump, he really stuffed it up, and came down hard on one side of his body. He was black and blue on one side. For a bet of $50 the idiot went and did it again, this time over compensating and landed on the other side of his body... He went to collect the money, only to find out that the other person had left. Pretty certain that the idiot would have had internal bleeding.

 

[Nicho50]

Andrade and Sammy going at it on Twitter. You can never tell with anything on socials but I think people like MJF and Corbins interactions with Sheamus was a fun way of banter whereas Sammy just comes across as unprofessional.

 

[nobbyiscool]

The problem with AEW and why it will never be as mainstream as WWE is because of the type of product it produces. Pretty much most people would be in the same boat as you or I were you grow up watching it as a kid and right now with AEW's style they don't cater for that. It is pretty hard to get a late teen or adult to start watching wrestling if they didn't as a kid and even more so in America. If you think about the ratings even Raw and SD only getting 1.5-2 mil viewers and what 6-12k crowds for tapings compared to competition they face from basketball and NFL and considering the size of the country its a very minority that follow it. If they were ever going to get to the same level as WWE they need to get kids growing up watching it as that is the way to grow it then when they have kids they watch it etc etc.

The attitude era / wars era was one out of the box people weren't even tuning in to watch the matches themselves really I think it was more the casual or non casual fan tuning in because of the NWO running amok or Sting coming from the rafters then DX, Austin and his beer truck antics and the Rock with the promos. Probably a lot of people related to the Austin Vince story like a "hard working class" person getting hounded by their "evil" boss and the pay off getting to kick their ass.

No doubt the match qualities are way way better now on TV and PPV events but honestly who has 8 hours a week to watch the main shows and every match on the main show. Its at the point where the overall match qualities are so much better now that unless there is a really compelling story to watch them then it gets kind of lost in the shuffle whereas back in the wars era there was so many poor quality lower/mid card matches that really made the top end matches stand out even if the stories were a bit weaker.

Hey man, this was obviously more appropriately replied to in here.

1) You can't say it will "never" be as mainstream. You can't see the future. It has a good backer, it has a great tv deal. So it has a phenomenal chance of being whatever the hell it wants to be.

2) The NWA and WCW found a market for decades in a more workrate-focussed product. You can argue that there wasn't enough of an audience to sustain it - I'd argue it was WCW's business decisions and insane booking in its death throes that led to its downfall, and I'd argue that people searching for workrate prompted a renaissance in indy wrestling.

3) I think you can find an audience of new fans in teenagers with a more adult focussed product - you make them feel like a mature audience and they'll follow the product.

4) You draw a market in more ways than just your tv product. Yes, it's the main way, but you draw fans by touring, by guys doing local shows, by the video game, by cross promotions like that dumb thing Best Friends were on, by dumber things like Cody & Brandi's reality show. I can't wait to see how the Bucks sneakers go with the sneaker crowd. (You mention NFL audiences - I think there'd be a fascinating case study in how Madden opened up completely new markets for the NFL, such that they're now holding 4 games a year in the UK and 1 in Germany; similar to how FIFA opened up overseas markets that created a whole Eurosnob generation that is being monetised by international tours, streaming deals, and $180 tops.)

 

[BEEG]

Stayed away for a while to see what happened.

TK I still can't believe allowed that press conference to play out like that stand up your the boss and say this is over make a statement.

Elite have always looked after mates, All Friends Wrestling and Punk has always found a reason to beef with someone they were destined to clash.

How does the guy who starts all this Hangman get a title shot.

Interesting that people like Miro, Andrade, Black, FTR etc have changed their tune pretty quick.

MJF era is now has to go over Moxley and be given 12 months with the title.

The Acclaimed have been great, Billy has been awesome.

That Paige promo was brutal.

TK surely now brings some people in to help run things and get rid of the EVP titles.

Punk was the biggest thing to happen to AEW and now he is gone it's a shame tbh.

 

[JP Sauce]

So the Andrade vs 10 “career vs mask” match has been officially cancelled.

More suspensions incoming perhaps.

 

[Gak Attack]

I think it was Adrade's last match anyway. Must have been worries about his professionalism doing the job. I'm not really upset some of these guys are starting to go now that were never that appealing and just costing some of the non ex WWE guys time.

 

[RossFC]

So the Andrade vs 10 “career vs mask” match has been officially cancelled.

More suspensions incoming perhaps.

 

[Gak Attack]

Not a fan of Sammy outside of the ring but his comments were pretty funny and spot on. I think TK is learning the not hiring WWE rejects lesson, not those with an ego anyway.

Meanwhile this Dynamite crowd is poor.

 

[JP Sauce]

Edit: article only mentions Andrade being sent home.

 

[mickelboy182]

They just flashed Guevara's match on the broadcast whoops

 

[JP Sauce]

They just flashed Guevara's match on the broadcast whoops

My bad, only skimmed the article. It only says Andrade was sent home.

 

[Gak Attack]

Thoughts and prayers with the E fans having to now watch him because of his lady friend

 

[Ray Nolan]

Tony Khan has either got start ruling his company with an iron fist, or hire someone to do the job. You've got 4 of the biggest stars in the company suspended and it is clearly affecting the crowds. You've got MJF in the ring tonight and there's hardly anyone there. The in ring product is still really good but there is too much drama out of the ring.