Scape Goat Alleged SPP incident/broken curfew + malicious and exploitative reporting by Channel 7 news

[Grave Danger]

Dear Prime Minister,

I know you are averse to Royal Commissions, Trade Union activity excepted, but as the Royal Commission into the Banks has been such a revelation could we please order a Royal Commission into the media?

Yes, we need to spend eleventy million dollars to prove once and for all that the ABC is biased!

 

[GreyPower]

Roger Rasheed is a former Sturt player (1 League game I think), they cant really use the "hes not one of us, hes a Port feral" deflection and dismiss what he says.

 

[Boxx]

Roger Rasheed is a former Sturt player (1 League game I think), they cant really use the "hes not one of us, hes a Port feral" deflection and dismiss what he says.

Fred Rasheed - Rogers cousin - also owns TIPS who is Sturts major sponsor...

 

[Ant Bear]

Fred Rasheed - Rogers cousin - also owns TIPS who is Sturts major sponsor...

Black sheep.

 

[OneGreatClub]

Panned down to his legs a few times as well. They were moving from side to side.
It may have been a joke but when on an episode of "Red Dwarf" Lister told Kryten he could tell when he was lying because his leg started shaking, this was partially based in fact. Although it does not always show someone is lying, the leg-shaking starts when they are nervous with their answers. And to a lot of people this could be taken as further proof that he was being economic with the truth.

Looked bloody nervous to me ffs what would you expect after the treatment he has been given poorkid

 

[Steve Dore]

Roger Rasheed is a former Sturt player (1 League game I think), they cant really use the "hes not one of us, hes a Port feral" deflection and dismiss what he says.

Of course they can.

 

[Traveling_Power]

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/afl-not-against-hush-money-says-mclachlan

AFL chief executive Gillon McLachlan says the league has no problems with hush money being paid to sexual harassment victims as long as it helps resolve the issue.
Fremantle hit the headlines earlier this month when it was reported an official made a secret payment to a former junior staffer to settle an alleged sexual harassment complaint.
The AFL's integrity unit investigated the harassment claims and found no further action was needed.
The Fremantle official at the centre of the storm has remained anonymous.
The murky issue of hush payments was raised when McLachlan fronted the media in Perth on Friday.
Without wanting to comment directly on the situation at Fremantle, he said it was important for confidentiality agreements to be honoured when the circumstances warranted.
Asked whether making payments to victims was against the AFL's respect and responsibility policy, McLachlan said no.
"What the core part of the policy is ... is actually resolving the issue between the complainant and the person who they are making the allegation against," he said.
"It's entirely appropriate and part of the policy for it to be confidential.
"There's a wide series of options available for getting resolution. There are many cases that are resolved confidentially.
"That's one of the core tenants of the policy - where possible and where appropriate, the confidentiality remains because it's resolving the issue at hand between the two parties rather than actually being something for public debate.
"I think it's unfortunate when it comes out. Unfortunate for the complainant and the person who is being complained against."
Earlier this week, Port Adelaide president David Koch slammed the AFL over its Sam Powell-Pepper investigation.
Koch said Power-Pepper was a victim of the AFL's attempts to rebuild its reputation with women following the resignations of league executives Simon Lethlean and Richard Simkiss over their affairs with junior colleagues.
Powell-Pepper was slapped with a three-match ban over his late-night drunken behaviour, which the AFL said also included engaging in "inappropriate contact with a female".
Koch accused the AFL of "railroading a kid and trying to rebuild their reputation".
McLachlan said there was no bad blood between the AFL and Port Adelaide over the handling of the investigation.
"I think David was emotional and clearly feels he's protecting his player and his club," McLachlan said.
"I completely disagree and reject some of the things he said.
"Football's a passionate, emotional business, and I don't take any of it personally."

 

[HaroldOliver]

Gil McLachlan is mediocrity personified.

 

[raman]

Gil McLachlan is mediocrity personified.

Which is very bad news for Hamish.

 

[Interstater]

Why would we close a thread on a matter that is still ongoing? People still want to talk about it and the topic will just spill over into other threads if they can’t discuss it here.

I wasn't asking to close the thread, just to ease back a little, I allegedly wasn't very clear on that.
Happy to provide the 7 hours of video footage of me typing that post if necessary.

 

[yepits2020]

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/afl-not-against-hush-money-says-mclachlan

AFL chief executive Gillon McLachlan says the league has no problems with hush money being paid to sexual harassment victims as long as it helps resolve the issue.
Fremantle hit the headlines earlier this month when it was reported an official made a secret payment to a former junior staffer to settle an alleged sexual harassment complaint.
The AFL's integrity unit investigated the harassment claims and found no further action was needed.
The Fremantle official at the centre of the storm has remained anonymous.
The murky issue of hush payments was raised when McLachlan fronted the media in Perth on Friday.
Without wanting to comment directly on the situation at Fremantle, he said it was important for confidentiality agreements to be honoured when the circumstances warranted.
Asked whether making payments to victims was against the AFL's respect and responsibility policy, McLachlan said no.
"What the core part of the policy is ... is actually resolving the issue between the complainant and the person who they are making the allegation against," he said.
"It's entirely appropriate and part of the policy for it to be confidential.
"There's a wide series of options available for getting resolution. There are many cases that are resolved confidentially.
"That's one of the core tenants of the policy - where possible and where appropriate, the confidentiality remains because it's resolving the issue at hand between the two parties rather than actually being something for public debate.
"I think it's unfortunate when it comes out. Unfortunate for the complainant and the person who is being complained against."
Earlier this week, Port Adelaide president David Koch slammed the AFL over its Sam Powell-Pepper investigation.
Koch said Power-Pepper was a victim of the AFL's attempts to rebuild its reputation with women following the resignations of league executives Simon Lethlean and Richard Simkiss over their affairs with junior colleagues.
Powell-Pepper was slapped with a three-match ban over his late-night drunken behaviour, which the AFL said also included engaging in "inappropriate contact with a female".
Koch accused the AFL of "railroading a kid and trying to rebuild their reputation".
McLachlan said there was no bad blood between the AFL and Port Adelaide over the handling of the investigation.
"I think David was emotional and clearly feels he's protecting his player and his club," McLachlan said.
"I completely disagree and reject some of the things he said.
"Football's a passionate, emotional business, and I don't take any of it personally."

Only an organisation that is morally bankrupt would consider it appropriate to pay hush money.

 

[yepits2020]

Hush money is a slang term for a form of bribery, in which one person or party offers another an attractive sum of money or other enticement, in exchange for remaining silent about some illegal, stigmatic, or shameful behavior, action, or other fact about the person or party who has made the offer.[1]

The person or party who presents the hush money may be attempting to avoid criminal prosecution, a lawsuit (as sometimes in the case of an out-of-court settlement), a leak of information to the news media, or silence about a stigmatic issue within one's own community. The information being covered up may include illegal activity, such as drug dealing, or some personal secret, such as an extramarital affair. In some cases, a government agency may be involved in the offer of hush money in order to protect the agency's employees, politicians and their appointees, or a national government in its standing among other nations in the world. It is usually given under the table.

It is hard to believe that the AFL think this is appropriate behaviour. Surely there are laws against bribery and corruption. I bet they have done this.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/afl-not-against-hush-money-says-mclachlan

AFL chief executive Gillon McLachlan says the league has no problems with hush money being paid to sexual harassment victims as long as it helps resolve the issue.
Fremantle hit the headlines earlier this month when it was reported an official made a secret payment to a former junior staffer to settle an alleged sexual harassment complaint.
The AFL's integrity unit investigated the harassment claims and found no further action was needed.
The Fremantle official at the centre of the storm has remained anonymous.
The murky issue of hush payments was raised when McLachlan fronted the media in Perth on Friday.
Without wanting to comment directly on the situation at Fremantle, he said it was important for confidentiality agreements to be honoured when the circumstances warranted.
Asked whether making payments to victims was against the AFL's respect and responsibility policy, McLachlan said no.
"What the core part of the policy is ... is actually resolving the issue between the complainant and the person who they are making the allegation against," he said.
"It's entirely appropriate and part of the policy for it to be confidential.
"There's a wide series of options available for getting resolution. There are many cases that are resolved confidentially.
"That's one of the core tenants of the policy - where possible and where appropriate, the confidentiality remains because it's resolving the issue at hand between the two parties rather than actually being something for public debate.
"I think it's unfortunate when it comes out. Unfortunate for the complainant and the person who is being complained against."
Earlier this week, Port Adelaide president David Koch slammed the AFL over its Sam Powell-Pepper investigation.
Koch said Power-Pepper was a victim of the AFL's attempts to rebuild its reputation with women following the resignations of league executives Simon Lethlean and Richard Simkiss over their affairs with junior colleagues.
Powell-Pepper was slapped with a three-match ban over his late-night drunken behaviour, which the AFL said also included engaging in "inappropriate contact with a female".
Koch accused the AFL of "railroading a kid and trying to rebuild their reputation".
McLachlan said there was no bad blood between the AFL and Port Adelaide over the handling of the investigation.
"I think David was emotional and clearly feels he's protecting his player and his club," McLachlan said.
"I completely disagree and reject some of the things he said.
"Football's a passionate, emotional business, and I don't take any of it personally."

FMD

 

[DaTBird187]

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/afl-not-against-hush-money-says-mclachlan

AFL chief executive Gillon McLachlan says the league has no problems with hush money being paid to sexual harassment victims as long as it helps resolve the issue.
Fremantle hit the headlines earlier this month when it was reported an official made a secret payment to a former junior staffer to settle an alleged sexual harassment complaint.
The AFL's integrity unit investigated the harassment claims and found no further action was needed.
The Fremantle official at the centre of the storm has remained anonymous.
The murky issue of hush payments was raised when McLachlan fronted the media in Perth on Friday.
Without wanting to comment directly on the situation at Fremantle, he said it was important for confidentiality agreements to be honoured when the circumstances warranted.
Asked whether making payments to victims was against the AFL's respect and responsibility policy, McLachlan said no.
"What the core part of the policy is ... is actually resolving the issue between the complainant and the person who they are making the allegation against," he said.
"It's entirely appropriate and part of the policy for it to be confidential.
"There's a wide series of options available for getting resolution. There are many cases that are resolved confidentially.
"That's one of the core tenants of the policy - where possible and where appropriate, the confidentiality remains because it's resolving the issue at hand between the two parties rather than actually being something for public debate.
"I think it's unfortunate when it comes out. Unfortunate for the complainant and the person who is being complained against."
Earlier this week, Port Adelaide president David Koch slammed the AFL over its Sam Powell-Pepper investigation.
Koch said Power-Pepper was a victim of the AFL's attempts to rebuild its reputation with women following the resignations of league executives Simon Lethlean and Richard Simkiss over their affairs with junior colleagues.
Powell-Pepper was slapped with a three-match ban over his late-night drunken behaviour, which the AFL said also included engaging in "inappropriate contact with a female".
Koch accused the AFL of "railroading a kid and trying to rebuild their reputation".
McLachlan said there was no bad blood between the AFL and Port Adelaide over the handling of the investigation.
"I think David was emotional and clearly feels he's protecting his player and his club," McLachlan said.
"I completely disagree and reject some of the things he said.
"Football's a passionate, emotional business, and I don't take any of it personally."

In summary.

 

[Ant Bear]

Hush money =/= confidential cash settlement.

 

[Interstater]

So will the AFL pay us to keep the girl's identity secret, or will they only pay Ch7 - Adelaide?

 

[Visenfest]

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/afl-not-against-hush-money-says-mclachlan

AFL chief executive Gillon McLachlan says the league has no problems with hush money being paid to sexual harassment victims as long as it helps resolve the issue.
Fremantle hit the headlines earlier this month when it was reported an official made a secret payment to a former junior staffer to settle an alleged sexual harassment complaint.
The AFL's integrity unit investigated the harassment claims and found no further action was needed.
The Fremantle official at the centre of the storm has remained anonymous.
The murky issue of hush payments was raised when McLachlan fronted the media in Perth on Friday.
Without wanting to comment directly on the situation at Fremantle, he said it was important for confidentiality agreements to be honoured when the circumstances warranted.
Asked whether making payments to victims was against the AFL's respect and responsibility policy, McLachlan said no.
"What the core part of the policy is ... is actually resolving the issue between the complainant and the person who they are making the allegation against," he said.
"It's entirely appropriate and part of the policy for it to be confidential.
"There's a wide series of options available for getting resolution. There are many cases that are resolved confidentially.
"That's one of the core tenants of the policy - where possible and where appropriate, the confidentiality remains because it's resolving the issue at hand between the two parties rather than actually being something for public debate.
"I think it's unfortunate when it comes out. Unfortunate for the complainant and the person who is being complained against."
Earlier this week, Port Adelaide president David Koch slammed the AFL over its Sam Powell-Pepper investigation.
Koch said Power-Pepper was a victim of the AFL's attempts to rebuild its reputation with women following the resignations of league executives Simon Lethlean and Richard Simkiss over their affairs with junior colleagues.
Powell-Pepper was slapped with a three-match ban over his late-night drunken behaviour, which the AFL said also included engaging in "inappropriate contact with a female".
Koch accused the AFL of "railroading a kid and trying to rebuild their reputation".
McLachlan said there was no bad blood between the AFL and Port Adelaide over the handling of the investigation.
"I think David was emotional and clearly feels he's protecting his player and his club," McLachlan said.
"I completely disagree and reject some of the things he said.
"Football's a passionate, emotional business, and I don't take any of it personally."

What the actual f**k Gillon.

 

[pip_]

My god. Sometimes I think I'm going mad when I read this shit.

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2018-...-hush-money-sexual-harass/9705678?pfmredir=sm

"Fremantle hit the headlines earlier this month when it was reported an official made a secret payment to a former junior staffer to settle an alleged sexual harassment complaint."

"Asked whether making payments to victims was against the AFL's respect and responsibility policy, McLachlan said no"

"The AFL's integrity unit investigated the harassment claims and found no further action was needed".

So basically you're only ****ing punished if your shit hits the public, not for the offence.

What a bunch of campaigners.

 

[Steve Dore]

"AFL integrity" is the dictionary definition of an oxymoron

 

[Forzaport]

Non-disclosure/confidentiality agreements are fine so long as they're not covering up anything illegal. Sexual harassment is not a crime but I think there is an option for civil proceedings so the Freo staffer was likely making a payment to avoid being sued. Think of it as an out of court settlement. It's perfectly legal but it shines a bad light on the AFL after SPP's very public and lengthy ban. Why does SPP have to suffer the ignominy of being singled out as some sort of sexual fiend while this Freo staffer remains anonymous and suffers no punishment from the AFL Integrity Unit. Reeks of double standards and of an organisation that does not know what it's doing. Also adds weight to the argument that SPP was used as a scapegoat.

 

[Amarula]

"AFL integrity" is the dictionary definition of an oxymoron

Or it's like 1984, where the Ministry for Peace is responsible for war, and the Ministry for Information is responsible for false propaganda.
Doublespeak at it's finest.

 

[UPYRSFMTP]

Fred Rasheed - Rogers cousin - also owns TIPS who is Sturts major sponsor...

I hope that Roger has a chat with his cousin about this

 

[yepits2020]

Non-disclosure/confidentiality agreements are fine so long as they're not covering up anything illegal. Sexual harassment is not a crime but I think there is an option for civil proceedings so the Freo staffer was likely making a payment to avoid being sued. Think of it as an out of court settlement. It's perfectly legal but it shines a bad light on the AFL after SPP's very public and lengthy ban. Why does SPP have to suffer the ignominy of being singled out as some sort of sexual fiend while this Freo staffer remains anonymous and suffers no punishment from the AFL Integrity Unit. Reeks of double standards and of an organisation that does not know what it's doing. Also adds weight to the argument that SPP was used as a scapegoat.

It is a moral question, not s legal question. Morally, it is not fine to pay hush money in this circumstance, in my view and I suspect it would be the view of the majority.

 

[GremioPower]

Hush money =/= confidential cash settlement.

"That's an academic discussion." (AFL)

 

[Amarula]

Non-disclosure/confidentiality agreements are fine so long as they're not covering up anything illegal. Sexual harassment is not a crime but I think there is an option for civil proceedings so the Freo staffer was likely making a payment to avoid being sued. Think of it as an out of court settlement. It's perfectly legal but it shines a bad light on the AFL after SPP's very public and lengthy ban. Why does SPP have to suffer the ignominy of being singled out as some sort of sexual fiend while this Freo staffer remains anonymous and suffers no punishment from the AFL Integrity Unit. Reeks of double standards and of an organisation that does not know what it's doing. Also adds weight to the argument that SPP was used as a scapegoat.

Just doesn't say much about their so-called "respect for women" and where it really lies in their priorities. Their aim in the past has seemed to be to pressure or cajole the woman into not taking it further, let alone holding the player to account. And of course to preserve the image of the AFL, while avoiding having to actually respect any actual women.

This one got away from them thanks to C7-Ade, so the only way they think they can look as if they uphold "respect for women" is to come down excessively hard. But they overdid it so much that it threatens to show them up for how little they know, or care, about respect for women.