Utter rubbish. As Michael Long said, it's like any different cultural group, there are those who can and those who cant.
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Are Indigenous/Dark footballers more gifted than Caucasians?
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And the condescending platitudes towards indigenous players are boring. Even more cringe-worthy when commentators do it.
There's a lot more whites than african americans in America, doesn't mean they dominate NFL, NBA now does it.
Aboriginals are not like African Americans. African Americans are generally taller and stronger, Aboriginals are usually shorter and skinnier.
If you think your skin colour is going to help you become a great footballer, you are kidding yourself. Hard work and determination is what will make you great.
I have a sneaking suspicion that the OP is Tony Shaw.
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Exactly my point. So why does a minority group like the African American do so well in sport when they dont have the numbers? The ratio seems to be similar with our indigenous players.
Another reason I asked this was because I was watching the baseball today and there are a stack of Hispanics playing - around 60% of the total player group across the whole of the MLB.
The disproportionate representation of indigenous players compared to population is IMO probably best explained by the same reason footballers from country/regional areas generally are represented disproportionately - the reason is cultural. Most indigenous footballers are from regional areas. Football is probably a more central aspect to life for regional and indigenous boys than in cities, which are by their nature more cosmopolitan and offer a wider range of pursuits for kids to engage in.
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well we cant swim everyone knows that where just scared off the water
I would bet there are more Italian above average footballers to play AFL than Indigenous Australians.
Thanks to the efforts of a bloke by the name of A. Hitler, eugenics has been a very touchy subject for the last 50 years or so, and it's consequentially very difficult for a scientist to do studies on anything relating to the possibility of racial physical or mental differences without there being suggestions they have a hidden agenda.
But logically it is reasonable to think that different races might, on average, be better or worse at a lot of different things.
-Studies have shown that on average, africans have bigger wangs than caucasians who have bigger wangs than asians.
-Caucasians are better at handling cold weather thanks to their nose shape, and more susceptible to sun damage.
-Asians' earwax and sweat is different in composition to europeans, possibly to deal with a generally more humid climate.
If there are obvious superficial physical differences, why shouldn't there also be differences in less easily measurable areas, like muscle mass, reaction times, hand eye coordination, endurance, etc? People looking at dogs would have no problem with the idea that different breeds have different attributes, ie, endurance, speed, loyalty, aggressiveness, whatever, so why is it so incredible to suggest that humans might -on average- have similar variation along racial lines?
But logically it is reasonable to think that different races might, on average, be better or worse at a lot of different things.
-Studies have shown that on average, africans have bigger wangs than caucasians who have bigger wangs than asians.
-Caucasians are better at handling cold weather thanks to their nose shape, and more susceptible to sun damage.
-Asians' earwax and sweat is different in composition to europeans, possibly to deal with a generally more humid climate.
If there are obvious superficial physical differences, why shouldn't there also be differences in less easily measurable areas, like muscle mass, reaction times, hand eye coordination, endurance, etc? People looking at dogs would have no problem with the idea that different breeds have different attributes, ie, endurance, speed, loyalty, aggressiveness, whatever, so why is it so incredible to suggest that humans might -on average- have similar variation along racial lines?
Because of the myth of Equality
Equality as in the same human rights for all, or equality as in genetic equality (as it applies in sporting prowess)?
See that is where it gets tricky, and political.
Of course all people should have the same rights. However if one person can not compete due to their genetic make up, is it equality that they get an unnatural advantage over another.
....what exactly does that have to do with the a discussion about football?
not much
Danger Mouse
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The irony to this post is its ok to say black people are better then white but vice versa, thats racist..... oh the double standards in todays world.
People are people, Gary Ablett senior >>> any aboriginal player ... oh wait i'm being racist.
People are people, Gary Ablett senior >>> any aboriginal player ... oh wait i'm being racist.
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Who are the current top 10?
1. Ablett
2. Franklin
3. Judd
4. Pav
5. Brown
6. Bartel
7.?
8. ?
9. ?
10.?
The point is I can only think of 1 in the top 10, so no, they're not.
Ok, I forgot Goodes, so maybe 2.
1. Ablett
2. Franklin
3. Judd
4. Pav
5. Brown
6. Bartel
7.?
8. ?
9. ?
10.?
The point is I can only think of 1 in the top 10, so no, they're not.
Ok, I forgot Goodes, so maybe 2.
If Aborigines make up 2% of the total Australian population, and 20% of the top 10 AFL footballers, that would kind of suggest exactly the opposite of what you're saying.
The "Skins" ad???The irony to this post is its ok to say black people are better then white but vice versa, thats racist..... oh the double standards in todays world.
People are people, Gary Ablett senior >>> any aboriginal player ... oh wait i'm being racist.
Funny but hypocritical
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Many other things need to be taken into account, such as sporting opportunities available to the Indigenous community, I'm no authority but the Indigenous community does seem to be AFL focused, therefore a larger % of the Indigenous population play AFL to other sports.
I remember the last time this topic ran on bigfooty, numerous posters found plenty of evidence that some races have natural strengths and weaknesses, for instance muscle mass in African-Americans.
For the most part, however, the problems of race and sporting ability this threat is about can be described by sociological rather than genetic means.
For the most part, however, the problems of race and sporting ability this threat is about can be described by sociological rather than genetic means.
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Aboriginals' make up 2% of the Australian population, while making up 10% of the AFL footballing fraternity. Interpret that as you will, but my take is that this would have as much to do with culture, as any genetic advantage.
He's the absolute worst for it.
I think it's the fact that the best way out of poverty for indigenous blokes is through sport. There's fewer academic options.
Bhoularouj
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that skins ad is racist
I remember reading something about bone density as well, supposedly the *black* (I cringe using these terms) races have a higher bone density than the *white* races, this then leads to the darker races being better at say, the running events, but less proficient at swimming
