I think that you have your premise from your opening post wrong? It should have said something like "should a KPD ever be picked as a first round pick?". KPDs are extremely important, it's just that you can get them from anywhere.
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If you agree then why did you start a thread about how unimportant they are? What a waste of time.I’m in agreeable that key defenders are important but don’t be spending a too 20 pick or 800k for them
Love this point and agree completely. While having a superstar defender is nice I always feel team defence wins premierships and big finals and a lot of those involve key defenders that have either been failed forewords cheaper congrats defenders or lowly draftedYeah, it's an interesting point you've raised
There are some high quality defenders among that lot, but also plenty of average/okay defenders alongside
I suspect everyone massively overrates individual talent and that premiership-winning defences are more about how the defenders help each other; how they work together; getting extra numbers to a contest; or getting across and covering for a teammate if he gets out of position.
Obviously, coaches would love to have 202cm Harris Andrews anchoring their backline. But if he doesn't get a timely chop-out from one of his teammates, then it doesn't really matter how good he looks.
Funny thing is.... Essendon is an interesting one. One of my favourite essendon defenders came from WA.I’m in agreeable that key defenders are important but don’t be spending a too 20 pick or 800k for them
Key defenders don't matter at all...Just a good one to ponder a lot of talk in the media and wider community is that as long as you have a competent ruck it’s all that matters but are key defenders the same?
Obviously like rucks there are exceptions like max Gawn and Sean Darcy who are match winners on there day. Same can be said for key defenders like Darcy Moore and Steven May, but like rucks do the unbelievable talents of you’re Darcy Moores and Harris Andrews mean that teams are overpaying through the salary and through draft picks for nothing more than mediocre talks that can’t play forward?
I feel a good key defender is important but not essential a rag tag group of keys that are from different backgrounds of failed key forwards and bush leagues are just as good than overpaying for these 200cm “good on the eye” keys
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Since 2010 this is some of the key defender drafted in the first round
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Matthew Watson
Lachie plowman
Kristin Jacksch
Aidan Corr
Matthew Scharenberg
Caleb marchbank
Sam Durdin
Aaron Francis
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Aidan bonar
Fisher Mcasey
Brodie Kemp
Denver Granger Barass
Nik Cox
Zach Reid
The proof is in the pudding injuries have hurt a lot of these guys but it’s the exact point I’m making why spend a top 15 pick on a key defender when more than 50 percent of the time it ends in heartache
The top key defenders are worth every cent. Problem is that they're rare. However, tthe best still don't get paid (apart from MCGovern), the same money as top key forwards and midfielders.If you are building a list all I’m saying is that I wouldn’t be putting draft capital or big money into a key defender
Tall second and third forwards are the most overpaid group v actual outputI say ruckmen personally.
The good ones are great because they’re very good footballers who contribute heaps around the ground.
But you can totally get around having a good one.
The best key forwards are almost all exclusively drafted at the pointy end of the draft.If you agree then why did you start a thread about how unimportant they are? What a waste of time.
Also you seem to be contending that key defenders picked at the top of the draft don't always come on, and that many of the best are drafted with lower picks. Same is true of all key position players.
Half the number 1 key forwards are overpaid. They are the quarterback equivalent of the AFL. Every club is desperate for a great one but there are very few of them.Tall second and third forwards are the most overpaid group v actual output
You could find 15 spuds from the past 15 first rounds in literally any positionSince 2010 this is some of the key defender drafted in the first round
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Matthew Watson
Lachie plowman
Kristin Jacksch
Aidan Corr
Matthew Scharenberg
Caleb marchbank
Sam Durdin
Aaron Francis
Griffin logue
Aidan bonar
Fisher Mcasey
Brodie Kemp
Denver Granger Barass
Nik Cox
Zach Reid
The proof is in the pudding injuries have hurt a lot of these guys but it’s the exact point I’m making why spend a top 15 pick on a key defender when more than 50 percent of the time it ends in heartache
That's true of any position though because of the vagaries of talent development etc. Name a position and you can name a bunch of high draft picks that didn't work out and low draft picks that turned into excellent players.I hope I’m clear when I say that key defenders can be found from anywhere mostly from outside the first round and on little money. These players are system based and look a lot better in better teams obviously.