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Gotta stick with Caddy, he was a no.7 pick ahead of Heppell, Prestia, Gorringe & co!

Would be happy to off load Toy/Krakouer. Tom Nicholls probably the other likely option given he's off contract, Gorringe recently signed up/ruck depth.

Toy and Nicholls would both be worthy of late 1st rounders/mature age guns as they have big hype/youth whilst Krakouer would likely go to Eagles/Dockers for a lowly pick, eg 6th rounder. I cant see this happening though, bet he stays.

Regarding Jolly, I can see a trade happening. Gun player but will struggle for games at Gc despite his talent. I am personally a fan of his but should try trade him to Crows/Power as both would be keen to take him on, whoever offers the most. Hine/Flanagan possibles to return to Vic clubs also, much hyped juniors.

Any other Suns players linked to a move?
 

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Speaking to a recruitment bloke a few weeks back (not Richmond) who said the concern with toy was that he may be a manchild with limited upside. Had been looking disinterested in reserves. May have made his decision...
 
Speaking to a recruitment bloke a few weeks back (not Richmond) who said the concern with toy was that he may be a manchild with limited upside. Had been looking disinterested in reserves. May have made his decision...

He was never rated highly because he had a bigger body or used it well, if that's why that recruitment bloke said 'man child'. He was rated so highly because of his disposal by foot, reading of play and spoiling from what I've seen and read from scouts pre 2011.
 
He was never rated highly because he had a bigger body or used it well, if that's why that recruitment bloke said 'man child'. He was rated so highly because of his disposal by foot, reading of play and spoiling from what I've seen and read from scouts pre 2011.

Is he Shannon Hurn mk II?
 

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I would delist the following:

Lock (State league calibre player, not afl)
Patrick (talented yes but too many deficencies outweigh his positives)
Stanlake (does not warrant an afl roster spot_
Ablett (nathan not gary haha)
Daye (read stanlake)
Coad (old and injury prone)

Give 1 more year to:

Liddy (dont think he has what it takes but give him 1 more year)
Moss (his make or break in 2012)
Harris (keep him on due to low price and list depth/insurance)

Put up for trade bait:

Toy (for something good)
Flanagan (for whatever you an get)
May (Needs to be right offer or he stays)
Hine (mid range offer to seek more opportunity)
Krakouer (whatever you can get, pick 100?)
Jolly (Red Hine/May)

Also delist all rookies bar Magin who should be given 1 more year on rookie list.
 
I saw a bit of a Toy play and was really bouyant on him stepping in from day dot and playing well. He has been very underwhelming and I wouldn't touch him with a barge pole now for what you would have to give up to get him.
 
Toy dropped again. Whoever pays large will overpay

The guy has peaked. Hope Essendon give up lots.

I think it's very doubtful a first year player has peaked. Do you really think he can't improve?

His game wasn't about being bigger than anyone else and dominating that way, he stood out because of his foot skills and ability to read the play.

Saying that, he may be a one position wonder and not have 'it' mentally/physically to do the hard yards....Might just want a cushy role as a loosie his whole career?
 
I saw a bit of a Toy play and was really bouyant on him stepping in from day dot and playing well. He has been very underwhelming and I wouldn't touch him with a barge pole now for what you would have to give up to get him.

Agree form has been underwhelming and as such his value will have dipped somewhat on what it would have been 18 months ago.

That said, a club will still give up something reasonable to get him-he won't get home to Vic via the PSD and the draft isn't deep, so it'll still take a good deal to shift him.
 
I'd like Toy as well. Seems like he has a big body and some talent, but isn't enjoying it there. Pick 25ish would do it, no?
 

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