Australia v India - pre series discussion

[LukeParkerno1]

I get all that but you want your best players in the team.
So you need to move a player to accomodate the next best option. I’m confident we can give up Head’s 32 average at 5.
I’m sure he can adapt to open and average similar which would still be better than Harris/Konstas/Bancroft.

He doesn’t average 32 at 5 in Australia sorry to be blunt we are NOT moving out only in form middle order bat to open.

How wouldn’t Konstas be better? Has two hundreds already this summer. If we are going for a non opener Inglis opens simple

 

[LukeParkerno1]

The reason it gets dismissed is because he has what can best be described as a loose technique against new ball bowling and is thus best suited to batting when the ball is older. Warner had the same aggressive traits but a much tighter technique which is why he opened.

Pretty much and let’s be real bar Khawaja and maybe Carey if his form doesn’t revert back to what it was in tests, Head is practically the only one in form. We are already struggling to get runs how about we don’t move one of the only guys in form. Similarly moving Lab is just as brainless people need to realise how hard it is to find a genuine 3, there ain’t many. Smith is cooked, Marsh hasn’t got a run for a while (yes I know he batted well the last test that’s a while ago though).

I am not worried about bowling sides out I’m very concerned on us giving our bowlers enough rest as our batting has been putrid for some time

 

[western royboy]

I get all that but you want your best players in the team.
So you need to move a player to accomodate the next best option. I’m confident we can give up Head’s 32 average at 5.
I’m sure he can adapt to open and average similar which would still be better than Harris/Konstas/Bancroft.

Then you’d more than likely be wrong and it’s really a moot point because it isn’t going to happen

 

[Cleavy]

Inglis in Test conversation, but not as opener: Bailey | cricket.com.au

Wicketkeeper could find a way into Test side in the future, while the spotlight is set to be trained…

www.cricket.com.au

I guess that shuts the door on the "Inglis as opener" debate

 

[western royboy]

Inglis in Test conversation, but not as opener: Bailey | cricket.com.au

Wicketkeeper could find a way into Test side in the future, while the spotlight is set to be trained…

www.cricket.com.au

I guess that shuts the door on the "Inglis as opener" debate

Alleluia

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Alleluia

Wouldn’t be so happy if Harris is there lol

 

[Gough]

I don't see us getting enough runs to win the series.

 

[nobbyiscool]

I never understand why Head isn't more seriously considered to open, even before they tried Smith. He's done it a lot in limited overs cricket, and is as good a like-for-like replacement for Warner as you're going to find. I prefer that to re-trying someone.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

I never understand why Head isn't more seriously considered to open, even before they tried Smith. He's done it a lot in limited overs cricket, and is as good a like-for-like replacement for Warner as you're going to find. I prefer that to re-trying someone.

As stated above you get away with that in the sub continent you won’t get away with it here when the ball moves and he has a terrible technique early on he is not Warner at all. Warner actually had a very compact defence Head is very loose

 

[Jim Prideaux]

I never understand why Head isn't more seriously considered to open, even before they tried Smith. He's done it a lot in limited overs cricket, and is as good a like-for-like replacement for Warner as you're going to find. I prefer that to re-trying someone.

I’ll preface this comment with saying I was in the Head as an opening option camp last year.

However, I now find myself more in the opposing side for these reasons:

1. I don’t think his early innings technique is suited to opening in red ball cricket in Australia, New Zealand, SA ir the UK. The way he goes back and to leg early in particular.

2. He’s great in the middle order. He’s in form, scores runs and can lift the rate.

3. We need to blood openers now. Ussie won’t be around much longer, so even if we play head he’ll likely have a new partner sooner rather than later.

4. We need to blood batters period. Shaking up the established players in the order isn’t going to help that in my opinion.

 

[Great8]

Yeah, Head is probably the most like for like Warner replacement. It makes sense to send him back to open. But I think he should also have some say over where he is most comfortable and happy batting.

Trav was told about a month ago that he would be opening against India but I think the selectors are getting a touch of cold feet combined with the fact he doesn’t really want to do it.
McSweeney is definitely being looked at

 

[cricketnut14]

Trav was told about a month ago that he would be opening against India but I think the selectors are getting a touch of cold feet combined with the fact he doesn’t really want to do it.

so if thats the case, who was pencilled in to open for the series a few months ago before the cam green injury.

the selectors had already said that the top 6 were already determined barring injury - and if it was known that smith and head weren't gonna open then who was ? green, marsh, marnus ?

if it was to be green, then i get what all this commotion is about.

 

[Nuggetz]

I don't see us getting enough runs to win the series.

Could say the same with India. Rohit missing either 1st or 2ndd test, maybe that's a positive for India? Who knows with his current form...

 

[Westend]

Reckon Mcsweeney is firming for the spot

 

[Black Diamond]

There have been shitloads of ODI openers who are not fit to open in test cricket. It is not a like for like.

 

[magpiemaniac44]

I'm firmly in the pick an opener camp, but if they want to shuffle the order I'd rather Marsh open than Head

Head is way too valuable at 5

 

[Torz]

I'm firmly in the pick an opener camp, but if they want to shuffle the order I'd rather Marsh open than Head

Head is way too valuable at 5

Marsh opening feels like the doorway to the end for him. Could see him really struggling.

 

[western royboy]

We’ve been down the idiot track by opening with Smith. We shouldn’t be going down it again.

 

[Cleavy]

Marsh opening feels like the doorway to the end for him. Could see him really struggling.

don't say it...
don't say it...
"the doorway to departure"
^$#&^&#!

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Marsh opening feels like the doorway to the end for him. Could see him really struggling.

Well we need to fit Green in the middle order soon.

 

[eltrain]

I'm firmly in the pick an opener camp, but if they want to shuffle the order I'd rather Marsh open than Head

Head is way too valuable at 5

I think people have missed your main point - which is that Head should not be moved from his spot at 5. Agree with that 100%.

Far too valuable in that slot to be mucking around with it.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

I think people have missed your main point - which is that Head should not be moved from his spot at 5. Agree with that 100%.

Far too valuable in that slot to be mucking around with it.

Especially when he’s the only bat in the top 6 remotely in form. Who else is in form? Khawaja scratchy at best, Lab okay without being amazing this summer, Marsh poor, Smith batting like Chris Martin. Carey in great form but batting 7. We have a grand total of one bat in great form under no circumstances do we move him

 

[Westend]

Especially when he’s the only bat in the top 6 remotely in form. Who else is in form? Khawaja scratchy at best, Lab okay without being amazing this summer, Marsh poor, Smith batting like Chris Martin. Carey in great form but batting 7. We have a grand total of one bat in great form under no circumstances do we move him

White ball yes but he is going through a bit of a slow period for him in the tests last 7 tests only averaging 20 odd

 

[LukeParkerno1]

White ball yes but he is going through a bit of a slow period for him in the tests last 7 tests only averaging 20 odd

Batted well in first shield game too

 

[Cainozz]

McSweeney’s name seems to be flying around a lot now. What exactly is the logic behind this? Is the hope that selectors move Head to open and McSweeney drops in at 5? Or is McSweeney seriously being considered as an opening bat? He doesn’t open for SA, averages less than Harris/Renshaw/Bancroft/Maddinson in FC and a strike rate of 42. He’s young and absolutely has the potential to play for Australia but just don’t see the body of work for him to be next in line?