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Trade Requested Bailey Smith [reportedly headed to Geelong]
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I had a good source from within the dogs (a player sponsor) in March say that he’s preferring the cats and that the cats are offering the most money.
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When you have a bad midfield everything looks bad. The bookends are good though, we just need to stop burning them with a poor midfield
It’s hard to say. The ladder position for his nominated club is going to be interesting. It’s such a fine line.
Something 6-9 and we probably gotta give something back.
I think a pick between 10-14 is probably fair at this stage.
Picks 15+ I think are unders.
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We've taken tonnes of kids lately. More kids will only make us worse
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Everyone is getting mail like it's 1997 and the only letters I get are bills
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That's about where I have him. 10-14 is about right.
We are stocked with kids, that’s what we’ve been doing the last 3 years. Drafting a lot of young blokes.
The problem isn’t guys under 23 and it isn’t experience with guys 29 and older, it’s the gulf sized gap between 24-28 year olds we don’t have
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It's amazing that people still can't grasp that.
I get that we all follow our own clubs so closely that we leave little room for what everyone else is doing...but the same lines over and over get old pretty quickly.
Fast forward the ages of SDK, Holmes, Bruhn, Henry, Dempsey, Neale, Clark, Conway, O'Sullivan etc to 25-26 and we'd be fine right now.
Unfortunately, you can't do that...so all we can do is bring in players around that age group to steady the ship until those guys develop.
Guys like Smith are perfect in that they're in that prime age range, while still being young enough to be around for the next tilt.
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It depends on if they are all the right pieces. Not sold on a few of those yet especially as they will need to move into bigger roles.
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I think the point is they'll be fine role players but we need ready made players to go into bigger roles. Good players for those roles are hard to find but we only need a couple.
Yeah I get people come in with rumours that are basically baseless.
But you’ve been here pretty much from the get go and you’ve basically been in on him going to the Cats for a while but also on what the Dogs were offering him to stay.
Will be interesting to see how it plays out. Anyone who says he isn’t worth it is kidding themselves.
Kobe Gryant
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You're right, we don't know for certain...but that's the same with every young group of players.
What we do know is those names - amongst others - aren't experienced or mature enough to carry a side to premiership contention by themselves, and won't be for some time.
In the meantime, we need to bridge that gap with players who are closer to their prime football years, with the goal of having a core of players who have developed together ready to peak in 3-5 years.
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Oh that explains it, I thought our club was trying to conceal their interest.
Clearly Geelong told us to back off.
‘Clear frontrunner’ for Dogs star Bailey Smith revealed as Magpies place ‘photo ban’ on trade target
‘Clear frontrunner’ for Dogs star revealed as Magpies place ‘photo ban’ on trade target
www.foxsports.com.au
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Oh that article? Did you go back and watch the passage of the show where landsberger says the actual talking point that the entire article is based on?Oh that explains it, I thought our club was trying to conceal their interest.
Clearly Geelong told us to back off.
‘Clear frontrunner’ for Dogs star Bailey Smith revealed as Magpies place ‘photo ban’ on trade target
‘Clear frontrunner’ for Dogs star revealed as Magpies place ‘photo ban’ on trade target
Pies players told to stop putting photos on social media of them partying with an oppo player who isn't playing this year and won't be tested for recreational drugs, with a history of recreational drug use. You don't need some trade scenario to explain why Collingwood would ask them not to take photos.
I don't know where he ends up, he may well end up at the Pies, but that article specifically is baseless.
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CatToTheFuture my humour, (poor or otherwise)
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Ahhhh I am slow on the take this morning
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It's hard to see how much bigger roles they could be asked to play.
Conway when picked is playing as lone number 1 ruck. Holmes, Bruhn and Clark are playing as full time inside mids with little support. SDK is our number 1 key defender (or number 1 ruck last week). You'd expect with no Hawkins, Neale will be our full forward.
Most of our issues are coming from having a midfield that is being smashed because our players are either cooked (Stanley and Blicavs), injured (Danger and Guthrie), battlers (Atkins and Bowes) or really young for such key roles (Holmes, Bruhn, Clark, Conway and SDK when he rucks).
Age wise Smith is perfect for us. The question is whether he's actually worth what we'll have to pay.
What if the Cats have a deal for Clarry ready to go. Doubt they have the collateral.
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Looking at Clarrys contract we probably get the picks for smith from the dees
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Kobe Gryant
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Would be worked around the Stengle compo.
Or we'd take the full brunt of Clarry's contract, but give up SFA draft wise.
Future first is off limits for us, as with so many kids in the side next year the pick could genuinely be anything.
It's why we're fine with Stengle going as long as it triggers band 1. Helps us get our deals done, while still protecting the future.
This seems like a bit of a risk in Geelongs position.
Hawthorn I can understand, they have some young midfield pieces in place.
Geelong are about to embark on a full rebuild in the next few years and im not sure id start here.
Hawthorn I can understand, they have some young midfield pieces in place.
Geelong are about to embark on a full rebuild in the next few years and im not sure id start here.
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