Best 22 - AFL Round 1

[TheGreatGrundy]

B: A.Toovey, C.Tarrant, N.Maxwell
HB: H.O'brien, B.Reid, P.Yagmoor
C: D.Thomas, L.Ball, H.Shaw
HF: A.Fasolo, T.Cloke, S.Sidebottom
F: J.Paine, C.Dawes, J.Blair
R: D.Jolly, S.Pendlebury, D.Swan

I: T.Goldsack, M.Clarke, L.Rounds sub: S.Wellingham

EMG: T.Young, A.Didak, P.Seedsman

And the team will look all the more brittle if Tarrant cannot play, or worse, plays but looks short of a gallop against Franklin. Did Keefe train, incidentally, because he will play if Tarrant can't, forcing Reid to stand franklin, which in some strange way, seems like it would be kind of interesting to behold as a one on one contest. If nothing else, it would provide an excellent indicator of just how good Reid has become.

Back in his days as a forward, some of us suggested Reid as the man most likely to hold Franklin, being 196cm and athletic. Is now the moment for our Frankenstein to face his greatest test?

 

[Number 10]

I'll have a crack:

B: Toovey, Keeffe, Maxwell
HB: Shaw, Reid, O'Brien
C: Thomas, Ball, Sidebottom
CHF: Fasolo, Cloke, Goldsack
FF: Blair, Dawes, Ceglar
R: Jolly, Swan, Pendlebury

I: Yagmoor, Clarke, Rounds I: Didak

Here is why:
I think it will be a fair stretch to see Tarrant play a whole game against such an athletic player in Franklin. If Franklin goes into the midfield for 30% of the game there is no-one I can think of with his pace and of a similar height and agility than Goldsack.

Keeffe is the next best thing in leu of Tarrant. Reid will take Buddy when he is forward and I think Keeffe's perfect match up is Hale. Hale can not ruck a whole game against Jolly and if he does we will win. Thus, they will have to bring in another rookie ruckman and rest Hale forward. He has been doing damage this preseason due to his height, but Keeffe will curtail him.

This brings me to Ceglar. We will win this game in the midfield. Ceglar has been very good in the ruck and forward in the NAB and will beat Hawthorn's second ruck (whoever it is). This will give us the ruck advantage for the whole game. We do lose a bit of defensive pressure in not playing Paine, but what's defensive pressure when you can pummel the ball inside our 50 again and again and again from the midfield.

A forward line of a resting Goldsack and Ceglar or Jolly and Dawes and Cloke will cause huge headaches for Hawthorn's backline. It will make Birchall, Stratton and Gibson extremely accountable. There will be no easy wins for them.

Didak needs a run, he just needs it, give him 1.5 qtrs. If we want to win this year he needs to be fit again.

By all means if Wellingham can play a full game he can come in for anyone on the bench, but if he can't I don't want him there ahead of Didak.

Yagmoor and Rounds will fill that defensive forward role well, even though Yagmoor hasn't played the role in the NAB, he has no place in a backline with Goldsack, Reid, O'Brien, Shaw and Maxwell. He reads the ball well and has an excellent kick. He wills himself to the contest and is a good tackler.

Clarke will relieve our wingmen throughout the game.

 

[Dead Eye Didak]

Isn't Didak, Beams, Johnson and Tarrant all playing VFL this weekend against the Bendigo Bombers?

 

[TheGreatGrundy]

Isn't Didak, Beams, Johnson and Tarrant all playing VFL this weekend against the Bendigo Bombers?

You possibly have a better source than the rest of us.

 

[Pies_10]

Even if Tarrant plays in the VFL on the weekend its unlikely he will play in round 1 unless he recovers perfectly.
So we will have to go with a makeshift backline againts the hawks
Even Maxwell may be in doubt although ive put him in the team as i think he will come good.

B: Toovey, Keefe, Maxwell
HB: Clarke, Reid, O'Brien
C: Thomas, Ball, Shaw
HF: Sidebottom, Cloke, Fasolo
F: Blair, Dawes, Rounds
R: Jolly, Pendlebury, Swan

INT: Goldsack, Wellingham, Paine
Sub: T Young

 

[TheClokes]

B: Shaw - Keeffe - Maxwell
HB: Clarke - Reid - O'Brien
C: Sidebottom - Swan - Toovey
HF: Blair - Cloke - D. Thomas
F: Fasolo - Dawes - Paine
FL: Jolly - Pendlebury - Ball
INT: Rounds - Yagmoor - Goldsack - Ceglar​

 

[Kirby]

Isn't Didak, Beams, Johnson and Tarrant all playing VFL this weekend against the Bendigo Bombers?

If you go by Walsh's comments it sounds like Johnson and Beams may play, Taz is 50/50 and Dids won't be playing.

 

[TheClokes]

Johnson and Beams = no chance

 

[Taco]

Beams is a big chance to be the sub

 

[Snoop Dog]

Injuries

I cant see how you could play Johnson, Beams, Maxwell, Tarrant, Wellingham with the preparations they have had. At best I think you can take in the Captain and possibly one of the others as a sub. The Hawks are up and about and we need fit players IMO.


Best 22

B Toovey, Keefe, OBrien
HB Shaw, Reid, Maxwell
C Clarke, Pendlebury, Thomas
HF Sidebottom, Cloke, Fasolo
F Paine, Dawes, Blair
R Jolly, Swan, Ball
I: Goldsack, Young, Seedsman S:Wellingham
E: Elliott, Yagmoor, Sinclair

Comments

Backline - Looks fine but there is a question mark on Keefe if he has to spend long periods on Hale. I think our best result is Hale rucks and Keefe gets a Schoenmakers or something.

Midfielders - Good that Clarke went a lot better last week but lets face it with the 6 or so out he would be on the cusp. He will take time though so we need to bear with him.

Fwds - Geez it looks bare doesnt it. No Didak, Beams, Krakouer, Caf, Tarrant (3rd tall this year) so the club has some real issues for the year. Plays who come off preps like theirs rarely have substantial years so must admit to being worried. In saying that the 3 kids in their will at least give it a go. Paine, Fasolo and Blair will be aggressive and chase. Sinclair is a worry for me and have left out but its clear the coaching group really rate him and I dont have either he or Elliott in so think that is probably wrong.

Rucks - Good that Jolls looks in good nick. Dawes will play back up ruck IMO.

Inter - Goldsack must be played more this year and I woudlnt mind seeing him play a wing if club think he has endurance. Young has done enough and shows good strength and willingness in the contest and Seedsman just looks classy to me. You could see it last year and I think he might just step it up a bit. I woudl have Wellingham on the bench as a sub and take a chance he can do a 1/4.

Others

Sincalir - I think the club really rate him and suspect he might get a go in front of Seedsman.

Elliott - looked exceptional vs Crows and dont write him off as he was 2nd week up after an injury break and so the club could have just been managing him. Wouldnt worry me to see him in bc he is showing all the stuff he did at u18's and shows no issues stepping up at a really early stage.

Buckley - Its a bit of a shame he hasnt grabbed his chances yet and in fact I think Clarke and Young have gone well past him. I wont be surprised to see him and am still hoping he can pull it together bc he has some real talent.

Ceglar - Look he has improved but still just doesnt do enough around the ground for me though. Watch that Crows game again though and watch his tap work......excellent!

Rounds - geez after that Melb game I thought he was there but the two since havent seen him feature and so I would think he is probably less likely. Seems to have lost a spot to Young and Yagmoor in back half and seems the fwd spot is a battle between Sinclair and Elliott as far as I can tell.

Yagmoor - doesnt he look the business. Think he will just miss though.

 

[Breakthelines]

I'd rather see Yagmoor playing round one than that muppet Young!

Yagmoor's skills compared to young decision making makes him more suited to play against Hawthorn.

 

[Snoop Dog]

I wouldnt call Young a 'muppett' think thats pretty rough.

But yeah will be a close call between the two and you could certainly see them going with Yagmoor - I just wonder how many 'young bodies' they will want to take in.

 

[THATSGOLD]

Toovs Reid Shaw
Clarke Goldsack Obrien
Sidebottom Ball Thomas
Fasolo Dawes Paine
Rounds Cloke Blair

Jolly Pendlebury Swan

Young Yagmoor Ceglar sub Sinclair

Providing there is no Maxwell.

Some raw players in there. Bench is a worry.

 

[HFF]

There's no way known we would have 3 key talls and 2 rucks in the one given side THATSGOLD.

Also, that bench is shithouse I'm afraid.

Young is miles off AFL ready. In fact, he isn't much chop to be honest.

Just because certain players have yet to feature, does not mean they will not be conditioned and ready to play their role for the team.

Obviously all of our "injured" players won't feature but I guarantee a handful of them will play in round one. I think Tarrant, Beams, Johnson and Wellingham will all play.

 

[THATSGOLD]

There's no way known we would have 3 key talls and 2 rucks in the one given side THATSGOLD.

Also, that bench is shithouse I'm afraid.

Young is miles off AFL ready. In fact, he isn't much chop to be honest.

Just because certain players have yet to feature, does not mean they will not be conditioned and ready to play their role for the team.

Obviously all of our "injured" players won't feature but I guarantee a handful of them will play in round one. I think Tarrant, Beams, Johnson and Wellingham will all play.

Well who are you swapping, only players to come in really are Keeffe who i think Goldsack would play his role better anyway. And maybe Elliot who did bugger all against St kilda. Tarrant and Brown have been ruled out until at least round 2. Beams is no chance by the sounds of it. Wellingham might be the only one to come in. Johnson will be far to under done to have an impact.

 

[WEARECOLLINGWOOD!]

I am off to training tomorrow, so I will give you guys an update on injuries then:

Until then here is my team:

Maxwell Tarrant/Keeffee Toovey
Obrien Reid Clarke
Thomas Swan Shaw
Fasolo Cloke Sidebottom
Blair Dawes Paine
Foll: Jolly ball Pendles
Inter: Goldsack Elliot Yagomoor Rounds

3 potential debuts & I think we will be up against it, if Taz doesnt come up

missing from our best 22 is:
Didak
Johnson
Wellingham
Wood
Beams
Brown

Krak* Caff*

What I think our best 22 should be minus Krak Caff

Maxwell Brown Tarrant
Obrien Reid Shaw
Thomas Swan Wellingham
Didak Cloke Sidebottom
Beams Dawes Blair
Foll: Jolly Ball Pendels
Inter: Johnson Toovey Fasolo sub: Goldsack

Emerg: Clarke Paine Wood

 

[Tbone McGraw]

I am off to training tomorrow, so I will give you guys an update on injuries then:

Until then here is my team:

Maxwell Tarrant/Keeffee Toovey
Obrien Reid Clarke
Thomas Swan Shaw
Fasolo Cloke Sidebottom
Blair Dawes Paine
Foll: Jolly ball Pendles
Inter: Goldsack Elliot Yagomoor Rounds

3 potential debuts & I think we will be up against it, if Taz doesnt come up

missing from our best 22 is:
Didak
Johnson
Wellingham
Wood
Beams
Brown

Krak* Caff*

What I think our best 22 should be minus Krak Caff

Maxwell Brown Tarrant
Obrien Reid Shaw
Thomas Swan Wellingham
Didak Cloke Sidebottom
Beams Dawes Blair
Foll: Jolly Ball Pendels
Inter: Johnson Toovey Fasolo sub: Goldsack

Emerg: Clarke Paine Wood

I think u will be extremely close with that rd 1 team. only other possible options for bench would be seedsman, tom young and Sinclair. i can't see any other options like Simon buckley making it

 

[TradeDraft]

Ceglar - Look he has improved but still just doesnt do enough around the ground for me though. Watch that Crows game again though and watch his tap work......excellent!

He did well with that last weekend in the VFL vs Geelong to some Good Strong Marks around the Ground as Tap Work was still Excellent

 

[favourites]

Sinclair will play before Elliot, seedsman and yags. Was the best of the borderline players last week.

And Dawes worked last week, Paine fit the system well and is a certain starter round 1. Looks to have taken over macaffers role.

 

[rustyg70]

If Taz doesn't come up,
Goldy on Buddy. (I have faith in Tyson,He would make any other teams starting 18)
Reid at the true centre half back.
Our flankers and back pocket players to do their usual jobs.( Help your mate out)

Its then up to them to win the ball out of the guts(with no ruck) and then stop our forward line.

 

[FAIRANDBALANCED]

Yeah I think we should put a line through Beams, Maxwell, Didak, Johnson, Tarrant, Wood, Wellingham (now) and Nathan Brown. No need to rush them back just for one game, get them right. As mush as they are crucial to our season as onfield depth, only either Tarrant or Brown are absolutely vital for our structure.

I'd go with,

Goldsack, Keefe, Toovey
O'Brien, Reid, Shaw
Clarke, Pendles, Sidebottom
Swan, Cloke, Blair
Paine, Dawes, Fasolo
Jolly, Ball, Thomas

Buckley, Sinclair, Young sub: Yagmoor

I know Buckley is not liked and sometimes with good reason, but he is a depth player, if we don't use him now, when do we use him?
I think he will be a better option than anyone of the first year players, and I think he has shown more than Rounds, Sinclair and co aswell.

It would be a huge win to beat Hawthorn with this side. So much depends on Pendles, Swan, Ball, Sidebottom and Daisy. We don't have much midfield cover.

 

[Peter Sidorkiewicz]

Yeah I think we should put a line through Beams, Maxwell, Didak, Johnson, Tarrant, Wood, Wellingham (now) and Nathan Brown. No need to rush them back just for one game, get them right. As mush as they are crucial to our season as onfield depth, only either Tarrant or Brown are absolutely vital for our structure.

I'd go with,

Goldsack, Keefe, Toovey
O'Brien, Reid, Shaw
Clarke, Pendles, Sidebottom
Swan, Cloke, Blair
Paine, Dawes, Fasolo
Jolly, Ball, Thomas

Buckley, Sinclair, Young sub: Yagmoor

I know Buckley is not liked and sometimes with good reason, but he is a depth player, if we don't use him now, when do we use him?
I think he will be a better option than anyone of the first year players, and I think he has shown more than Rounds, Sinclair and co aswell.

It would be a huge win to beat Hawthorn with this side. So much depends on Pendles, Swan, Ball, Sidebottom and Daisy. We don't have much midfield cover.

This is close to the side I would pick except I would remove Young for Ceglar.(We don't need 3 half back flankers on the bench and I don't want Dawes to be the backup ruckman). We need Keeffe height in defense to man up Hale. If Hawks are playing Hale as a first ruck then Keeffe goes to Roughead. Reid gets the first crack at Franklin. Goldsack to play on Gunston or potentially Roughead if the hawks want to go with a tall forward line featuring Franklin, Hale and Roughead. In this case Simon Buckley at 190cm is tall enough to take Gunston if hawks go tall. O'Brien has obviously got Rioli covered and Toovey will take the other deep small forward (Puopolo?) so that Heater can stay at half back.

 

[WWSD]

Hey Guys, what do you think of Tom Young chances of cracking it into the best 22 this year? He played 2 games last year, i saw his first game and he was outstanding, won the ball, got in the right spots, took a lot of marks and kicked 2 goals. He looks like he could be a handy utility for Collingwood. At 191cm and 91kg he seems ideal for that forward/defense type role.

 

[HFF]

So at this stage we can effectively rule out Didak, Wood, Brown and Wellingham.

Johnson and Tarrant are outside chances at best.

Beams you would think will be close.

Overall, looking at our team I still expect to win- won't be easy with the amount of players potentially missing but I think we have enough quality to get the result.

 

[danielnajdek]

Hey Guys, what do you think of Tom Young chances of cracking it into the best 22 this year? He played 2 games last year, i saw his first game and he was outstanding, won the ball, got in the right spots, took a lot of marks and kicked 2 goals. He looks like he could be a handy utility for Collingwood. At 191cm and 91kg he seems ideal for that forward/defense type role.

I'm pretty sure you'd want Young to play because you'll score 10 goals from his stupid brain fades. Whilst I agree with you that he wins the ball his disposal isn't great. With all the players we will have missing I dare say he will probably be playing in round 1. I just hope the injured guys come back asap because I wouldn't feel comfortable watching him with the ball for the majority of the season.