Unofficial Preview Best 22! Who’s in the team Round 1, 2023?

[FB19]

It’s is a hard team to pick which is obviously a good thing and hopefully we can add pieces next year to make that harder, but for now, here goes noting I have excluded 2022 draft crop:
B: Morris Blanck Hardwick - Morris lockdown def enables hardwick to play more offensively
HB: CJ Sicily Scrimshaw
C: Day Newk Amon
HF: Moore Kosi CMac
F: Bruest Lewis Wingard
R: Meek Worpel Nash
I: Ward Reeves Morrison DGB Brockman
E: from Stephens Frost Butler Maginness

Safe for 2024
Frost contracted
Stephens, Serong, Ramsden, Butler all developing
Potential Chopping block for 2023
Impey, Bramble, Maginness, Lynch, Jeka, Mitchell, Greene, Long all OOC

I think we are invariably going to see some surprise delistings next year now that I have gone through the process and see it on paper.

 

[bigmaxi]

Hawks: Round 1 2023.

A few tweeks after the training reports (many thanx) and Sam's claim of his new love child Stephens!

FB: Hardwick Blanckt DGB - Impey

HB: Scrimshaw Sicily (C) CJ

C: Day Worpel Amon - Stephens, Maginess sub: Morrison (not sure on new rules)

HF: Wingard Kozi Moore - CMac

FF: Bruest Lewis Reeves

Foll: Meek Newcombe Ward

10 midfielders rotating thru middle.

 

[Mikevk123]

B DGB J.Blancke B.Hardwick
HB C.Jiath J.Sicily J.Impey
C K.Amon J.Worpel W.Day
HF D.Moore M.Lewis C.McDonald
F L.Bruest J.Koschitzke C.Wingard
FOLL- N.Reeves J.Ward J.Newcombe
I/C- J.Scrimshaw, L.Meek, F.Magginess, C.Stephens
Sub- C.Mckenzie

 

[WWSD]

I think Bramble and Nash miss out on selection Round 1. I expect MacKenzie and Stephens to be in the mix based on their pre-season form.

 

[dermott]

I can understand how Koschitzke and Maginness are constantly misspelt but how on earth we get Blanck wrong is mind boggling.

 

[Slainte]

I think Bramble and Nash miss out on selection Round 1. I expect MacKenzie and Stephens to be in the mix based on their pre-season form.

Are you referring to pre-season form so far or what you anticipate to be pre-season form next year?

 

[number23]

Where does your AFL club sit: More growing pains ahead for young Hawthorn list​

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/news/where-does-your-afl-club-sit-more-growing-pains-ahead-for-young-hawthorn-list/news-story/e26b5695d23a712b849797f9fdad1480?amp&nk=f01aa4322f3336f3237d1b13e9b74816-1672264938

Check out on archive.ph

 

[madhawksfan]

Always hard to pick a side until we see how guys perform against other sides. Based on preseason performance, balance of strengths and experience, recent performance and versatility I’d go with:

Dimma Blanck DGB
CJ Sicily Scrim
Day Ward Amon
Moore Lewis Wingard
Bruest Kosi CMac
Meek Stephens Newk
Morrison Reeves McKenzie Finn
Sub: Impey

Some real competition for spots. Long, Nash and Worpel could all easily slot in to the mids. Lynch could be second ruck and Frosty or Jeka could take a KPD spot. Morris another who could feature in defence.

A pure small forward is missing but with Brocky not training with us yet it’s a tough call to put him in. I liked Impey’s work as a small forward, plus he’s versatile so an ideal sub.

 

[Hawk Hawkins]

Where does your AFL club sit: More growing pains ahead for young Hawthorn list​

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/news/where-does-your-afl-club-sit-more-growing-pains-ahead-for-young-hawthorn-list/news-story/e26b5695d23a712b849797f9fdad1480?amp&nk=f01aa4322f3336f3237d1b13e9b74816-1672264938

Check out on archive.ph

B Blanck, Frost, Hardwick
HB Scrimshaw, Sicily, Jiath
C Amon, Newcombe, Day
HF Moore, Koschitzke, Macdonald
F Wingard, Lewis, Breust
Foll Reeves, Worpel, Ward
Int Meek, Impey, Morrison, Nash
Sub Maginness

 

[detox]

For a team that is going to get smashed every week and win the spoon, we sure do have an odd amount of selection dilemmas...

 

[peetoo]

For a team that is going to get smashed every week and win the spoon, we sure do have an odd amount of selection dilemmas...

Ain’t that a fact. On song comfortably beat Geelong and brisbane too

 

[Jazzfan]

Reeves is as big a talent as we have on our list. Surprised more don't see that.

Meek is the perfect compliment. We will play both. Especially as Reeves builds his tank.

Very different. Meek has a bit of Lade, he's a brute. Will seriously open it up for Reeve's tap work that's already unbelievable, he just needs to build a tank ... we're set here long-term, especially if they can impact forward as Reeve's started to show.

 

[RobHawk]

I feel Maginness is unlikely to be a candidate for the sub role.
His ability to negate the most attacking opposition player from the start of the game will be crucial.
And his great endurance means he will run out a full game better than most.

 

[Agent Smith]

The sub role is perfect for first year players who won't need to play entire games, barring injuries.

 

[cryptor]

I feel Maginness is unlikely to be a candidate for the sub role.
His ability to negate the most attacking opposition player from the start of the game will be crucial.
And his great endurance means he will run out a full game better than most.

100%. Guys who can run hard from start to finish (eg. Finn, Smith, Hill, Scully, etc.) are wasted as sub. In fact players like this actually have a net positive effect on the interchange rotation limit as they don't need to come off as often as other midfielders.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

I feel Maginness is unlikely to be a candidate for the sub role.
His ability to negate the most attacking opposition player from the start of the game will be crucial.
And his great endurance means he will run out a full game better than most.

Yeah no way he's being used as a sub. He's a locked-in starter who has been rapidly improving. He offers the midfield something different and has unreal athleticism.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

Ain’t that a fact. On song comfortably beat Geelong and brisbane too

But also got absolutely pounded by the Saints, Suns (who we later beat) and the Doggies. It just goes to show where we are at. I expect much more of the same this season.

 

[peetoo]

But also got absolutely pounded by the Saints, Suns (who we later beat) and the Doggies. It just goes to show where we are at. I expect much more of the same this season.

I agree of course

 

[HedgeFund]

I can understand how Koschitzke and Maginness are constantly misspelt but how on earth we get Blanck wrong is mind boggling.

It’s J mes Bl nck isn’t it?

 

[HedgeFund]

Reeves is as big a talent as we have on our list. Surprised more don't see that.

Meek is the perfect compliment. We will play both. Especially as Reeves builds his tank.

Very different. Meek has a bit of Lade, he's a brute. Will seriously open it up for Reeve's tap work that's already unbelievable, he just needs to build a tank ... we're set here long-term, especially if they can impact forward as Reeve's started to show.

Reeves is clearly very tall, but when McEvoy returned and played those late season matches, his superior tap work showed out against Reeves.

Our mids knew where McEvoy was going and we clicked much better as a result from stoppage.

Is Reeves a huge talent? Not sure TBH. It remains to be seen for mine.

A comparable ruck elsewhere is Matt Flynn from GWS. He’s a year older, and has played 24 games total (12 in 2021 and also 2022). So that’s 7 more than Ned.

Flynn averages 11 disposals and 22 hit outs to Ned’s 8 and 27. Importantly for marks / contested marks Flynn averages 3.3 / 1.7 to Ned’s 1.5 / 0.65.

Across his long career, McEvoy averaged 11.5 disposals, 4.2 marks (1.5 contested)

Is Flynn a huge talent? Not that anyone in the competition is trumpeting about. Yet he is probably contributing more at GWS at this stage of his career.

For a guy of his height, Ned needs to get involved in the air (and particularly mark the ball around the ground) more.

 

[peetoo]

Reeves is clearly very tall, but when McEvoy returned and played those late season matches, his superior tap work showed out against Reeves.

Our mids knew where McEvoy was going and we clicked much better as a result from stoppage.

Is Reeves a huge talent? Not sure TBH. It remains to be seen for mine.

A comparable ruck elsewhere is Matt Flynn from GWS. He’s a year older, and has played 24 games total (12 in 2021 and also 2022). So that’s 7 more than Ned.

Flynn averages 11 disposals and 22 hit outs to Ned’s 8 and 27. Importantly for marks / contested marks Flynn averages 3.3 / 1.7 to Ned’s 1.5 / 0.65.

Across his long career, McEvoy averaged 11.5 disposals, 4.2 marks (1.5 contested)

Is Flynn a huge talent? Not that anyone in the competition is trumpeting about. Yet he is probably contributing more at GWS at this stage of his career.

For a guy of his height, Ned needs to get involved in the air (and particularly mark the ball around the ground) more.

When you look at all the trading discussions over the years, getting bigboy as a very advanced under 25y Ruck was an absolute gift

 

[Accipiter]

Reeves is clearly very tall, but when McEvoy returned and played those late season matches, his superior tap work showed out against Reeves.

Our mids knew where McEvoy was going and we clicked much better as a result from stoppage.

Is Reeves a huge talent? Not sure TBH. It remains to be seen for mine.

A comparable ruck elsewhere is Matt Flynn from GWS. He’s a year older, and has played 24 games total (12 in 2021 and also 2022). So that’s 7 more than Ned.

Flynn averages 11 disposals and 22 hit outs to Ned’s 8 and 27. Importantly for marks / contested marks Flynn averages 3.3 / 1.7 to Ned’s 1.5 / 0.65.

Across his long career, McEvoy averaged 11.5 disposals, 4.2 marks (1.5 contested)

Is Flynn a huge talent? Not that anyone in the competition is trumpeting about. Yet he is probably contributing more at GWS at this stage of his career.

For a guy of his height, Ned needs to get involved in the air (and particularly mark the ball around the ground) more.

Hopefully Ned's gains confidence as he builds an AFL body.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Reeves is clearly very tall, but when McEvoy returned and played those late season matches, his superior tap work showed out against Reeves.

Our mids knew where McEvoy was going and we clicked much better as a result from stoppage.

I don’t think this is the case at all.

Are there hits to advantage numbers anywhere to clarify?

 

[Yardie]

I don’t think this is the case at all.

Are there hits to advantage numbers anywhere to clarify?

See below stats for 2022. Although Ben has a higher HTA% it equates to 7.3 HTA per game where as Reeves is 8. Interesting is the much higher HTW by Reeves, that is when he is there we win the ball more often.

 

[bigmaxi]

See below stats for 2022. Although Ben has a higher HTA% it equates to 7.3 HTA per game where as Reeves is 8. Interesting is the much higher HTW by Reeves, that is when he is there we win the ball more often.

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Thanks Yardie, can you please enlighten me to HTW ? HTA = hit outs to advantage. HTW = hit outs to wherever?