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Do you really need huge contested 1 on 1 KPDs anymore?
IMHO the zone defensive structures and intercepting means we are better served by having athletic players who can read the ball as our defenders.
Go small and have the likes of WHE, Howe, Maynard, IQ as the mid sized intercept players who we accept will be undetsized gping up against a taller opponent. Sure they may struggle if left alone 1 on 1, but how often does that actually happen these days?
IMHO the zone defensive structures and intercepting means we are better served by having athletic players who can read the ball as our defenders.
Go small and have the likes of WHE, Howe, Maynard, IQ as the mid sized intercept players who we accept will be undetsized gping up against a taller opponent. Sure they may struggle if left alone 1 on 1, but how often does that actually happen these days?
B: Maynard Dean Howe
HB: Houston Moore Crisp
C: Quaynor N Daicos J Daicos
HF McCreery McStay Elliott
FF: Schultz Mihocek Hill
R: DeGoey Perryman Cameron
I: Pendlebury Sidebottom Cox Allan
Sub: WHE
HB: Houston Moore Crisp
C: Quaynor N Daicos J Daicos
HF McCreery McStay Elliott
FF: Schultz Mihocek Hill
R: DeGoey Perryman Cameron
I: Pendlebury Sidebottom Cox Allan
Sub: WHE
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No you don't.
Teams score far more from space and fast break than they do from 1v1 or pack marks.
i would bet the actual 1v1's a defender is involved in would be far far lower than people realise.
You need some level of height and athleticism.
But that's to cover ground and make a contest.
Not because they are wrestling in the goal square.
Those days are gone.
When we got cut up last year it was due to midfield accountability.
not defenders losing 1v1.
If our defenders get caught out 1v1, its more of a system breakdown than by design.
It will happen, but its never going to be the reason we win or lose.
Playing two ruckman so one can play defensively helps with this problem immensely.
It why Cox/Cameron is still our best structure.
sr36
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Yeah, I'm never concerned when it's Moore, Howe and Maynard playing as our talls. Most of 2023 it was just Moore, Murphy and Bruzzy.
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B: Maynard - Moore - Quaynor
HB: Crisp - Howe - Houston
C: Lipinski - Perryman - J. Daicos
HF: Elliot - Mihocek - Schultz
F: De Goey - McStay - Hill
R: Cameron - N. Daicos - Allan
Int: Pendlebury, Cox, McCreery, Hoskin-Elliot
Sub: Mitchell
E: Sidebottom, Membrey, Frampton
Depth:
Dean, McInnes, Parker, Macrae, Ryan, Jiath, Sullivan, Long, Steene, Smit, Harrison (inj), Markov [?], Johnson [?], Condon [?], 2-3 rookies
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HB: Crisp - Howe - Houston
C: Lipinski - Perryman - J. Daicos
HF: Elliot - Mihocek - Schultz
F: De Goey - McStay - Hill
R: Cameron - N. Daicos - Allan
Int: Pendlebury, Cox, McCreery, Hoskin-Elliot
Sub: Mitchell
E: Sidebottom, Membrey, Frampton
Depth:
Dean, McInnes, Parker, Macrae, Ryan, Jiath, Sullivan, Long, Steene, Smit, Harrison (inj), Markov [?], Johnson [?], Condon [?], 2-3 rookies
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Maynard Frampton Howe
Housten Moore Crisp
J.Daicos DeGoey Perryman
Elliott Mihocek Membery
Hill McStay Schultz
Cameron N.Daicos Mitchell
Quaynor Pendlebury Sidebottom McCreery Allan
Thats our best team. Crisp and Housten ball use off half-back. J. Daicos back to the wing, Membery forward and can play behind the ball.
Housten Moore Crisp
J.Daicos DeGoey Perryman
Elliott Mihocek Membery
Hill McStay Schultz
Cameron N.Daicos Mitchell
Quaynor Pendlebury Sidebottom McCreery Allan
Thats our best team. Crisp and Housten ball use off half-back. J. Daicos back to the wing, Membery forward and can play behind the ball.
B: Maynard - Frampton - Quaynor
HB: Crisp - Moore - Houston
C: WHE - Perryman - J. Daicos
HF: McReery - Mihocek - Schultz
F: Elliot - McStay - Hill
R: Cameron - N. Daicos - DeGoey
Int: Pendlebury, Howe, Allan, Sidebottom, Mitchell
Emg. Cox Membry Reef
Probably rotating Pendles, Sidey, Allan and Titch as sub
HB: Crisp - Moore - Houston
C: WHE - Perryman - J. Daicos
HF: McReery - Mihocek - Schultz
F: Elliot - McStay - Hill
R: Cameron - N. Daicos - DeGoey
Int: Pendlebury, Howe, Allan, Sidebottom, Mitchell
Emg. Cox Membry Reef
Probably rotating Pendles, Sidey, Allan and Titch as sub
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i like mihocek an option back and membrey mcstay forward
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If you aren't sure whether you need shut down KPDs anymore, look no further than the difference between having Murphy in 2023, and not having him in 2024. Moore was so often exposed because he was caught between two KPFs.
Murph listed as 188cm on draft guru site, smaller than Crisp and Howe. He was not a big shut down KPD. His skill was reading the play and helping out.
Not being able to replace his role hurt, but Ryan and Jiath are kids who will be groomed to play a similar role in future and WHE actually did it ok late in the season when thrown back.
We dont need a big lump of a KPD.
sr36
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I think the difference was that Frampton played as a shut down defender, whereas we were better off with Murphy's style which was more like Moore and Howe with lots of peeling off your man to interrupt attacks.
Sub Sidey in for Allan and I reckon that’s probably the first choice team that the coaches would line up with in round 1 should we have everyone fit.
Hopefully Allan can come in and cement a spot this year.
I reckon our depth looks OK, but a good run with injuries would go a long way for once.
Play Allan as a main centre square inside mid in the pre-season and see how he holds his own against the likes of Mitch, Naicos, Pendles, Perryman and DeGoey.
If he does well, give him a run in the seniors and force the older brigade to push him back out.
Yes - we look better when we have a group on interchangeable 185-190cm atheletic defenders who zone off and intercept and then have Moore.
Howe, Maynard, IQ, WHE, Jiath, Ryan - reckon we have 4 of them in our back group with Moore. And then have a couple of runners....Houston / Crisp / Sidey etc.
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WHE?
I’d prefer hosk for versatility to membrey
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Schultz is too slow to play on the wing.from our 2023 GF winning side:
B:MurphyDean, Moore, Howe
HB: Maynard,FramptonHouston, Quaynor
C: Sidey, Pendles,MarkovSchultz
HF: Hill, Checkers, Elliott
F: Beau, De Goey, Jaicos
R:CoxMcStay, Naicos, Crisp
INT: Titch, Cameron, WHE,GinniPerryman, Lippa
I suppose collingwood may choose a horses for courses approach when it comes to choosing kpd combinations.
When playing against oppositions like Carlton, hawthorn, eagles geelong ,north, sydney and the dogs, you definitely would need frampton and moore in the backline.
Whilst playing teams like essendon or dees, we could probably get away with just having moore as our sole kpd.
When playing against oppositions like Carlton, hawthorn, eagles geelong ,north, sydney and the dogs, you definitely would need frampton and moore in the backline.
Whilst playing teams like essendon or dees, we could probably get away with just having moore as our sole kpd.
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B: B.Maynard J.Howe J.Crisp
HB: I.Quaynor D.Moore S.Pendlebury
C: D.Houston N.Daicos J.Daicos
HF: L.Schultz B.Mihocek T.Membrey
F: J.Elliot D.McStay B.Hill
R: D.Cameron J.DeGoey H.Perryman
INT: (5 from T.Mitchell S.Sidebottom B.McCreery M.Cox B.Frampton W.Hoskin-Elliot)
EMERG P.Lipinski E.Allan
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