Strategy Best 23, Post Draft edition for Season 2025 (updated)

[Mr Meow]

If we get >5 good games out of Martin, we are laughing. He’s been described as having a body that can not tolerate the rigours of AFL loading.Historically, we have not often been the club to resurrect careers like his, not through lack of effort- SSelwood, HMac, and other names jump up. I’m talking about those whose bodies are broken and come our way. Anyway, he’s not with us at a high price iirc.

I said I could see Martin playing 12 AFL games next year. State how many you think he will play and we'll see who gets closer.

 

[Vdubs]

I said I could see Martin playing 12 AFL games next year. State how many you think he will play and we'll see who gets closer.

While I could not care less about who is closest, given he's played 151 games in 14 seasons, I'll go for his average- 11 games. Realistically, a 30 yo injury-prone footballer, with lots of competition for his spots, 11 games would be massive.

 

[Gazza Greatness]

I said I could see Martin playing 12 AFL games next year. State how many you think he will play and we'll see who gets closer.

I'm a little confused Mr Meow: are we talking about Dusty Martin who I thought was retired for good or Oisin Mullin or is there another Martin I do not know about?

 

[Ratcat]

Will be interesting to see if the club's fitness staff/physio's etc can get Jack Martin clear from his recurring injuries, obviously the club must have some hope with him, otherwise they wouldn't have wasted a senior spot on the list.

 

[Mr Meow]

While I could not care less about who is closest, given he's played 151 games in 14 seasons, I'll go for his average- 11 games. Realistically, a 30 yo injury-prone footballer, with lots of competition for his spots, 11 games would be massive.

Haha so after all that you agreed with me anyway. Your initial reply really didn't make it seem that way.

PS with a lot of these things you offer a pessimistic but vague take. So I like to get something objective out of you as far as what you actually expect. Or else vague pessimism is just pretty pointless!

 

[D BRIDGE]

I'm a little confused Mr Meow: are we talking about Dusty Martin who I thought was retired for good or Oisin Mullin or is there another Martin I do not know about?

Jack Martin is now on Geelong's list.

 

[D BRIDGE]

While I could not care less about who is closest, given he's played 151 games in 14 seasons, I'll go for his average- 11 games. Realistically, a 30 yo injury-prone footballer, with lots of competition for his spots, 11 games would be massive.

Not if they are 11 "meh" games.

I don't currently know what Geelong's plans are with Martin.

All I know is that if he plays, I hope he plays well—and if he plays well, I hope he plays a lot of games.

 

[Gazza Greatness]

Jack Martin is now on Geelong's list.

Oh YES, how quickly one forgets and the poor bugger hasn't even played a game yet.... thanks for my forgetfulness but it would be ironic if Dusty decided to make comeback for one season and play for Cats and win himself another flag!

 

[Vdubs]

Haha so after all that you agreed with me anyway. Your initial reply really didn't make it seem that way.

PS with a lot of these things you offer a pessimistic but vague take. So I like to get something objective out of you as far as what you actually expect. Or else vague pessimism is just pretty pointless!

vague pessimism- ?
look at reality, he's been injury prone for several seasons, 24 in particular.
Speak to those in the know and you might appreciate some realism.

 

[Hamingja]

I didn't think Martin would be the sort of player we would target when he was first linked but we have taken 7 guys at 40+ in the draft so taking a risk on Martin compared to drafting another guy at pick 80 is a meh whatever to me.

We are probably going to have to take a few DFA over the next few years to fill the list out after retirements. Having 15+ super speculative young players on the list wouldn't be pretty.

 

[Vdubs]

I didn't think Martin would be the sort of player we would target when he was first linked but we have taken 7 guys at 40+ in the draft so taking a risk on Martin compared to drafting another guy at pick 80 is a meh whatever to me.

We are probably going to have to take a few DFA over the next few years to fill the list out after retirements. Having 15+ super speculative young players on the list wouldn't be pretty.

Agree. Low risk, low cost, low expectations

 

[Mr Meow]

vague pessimism- ?
look at reality, he's been injury prone for several seasons, 24 in particular.
Speak to those in the know and you might appreciate some realism.

Mate we agree on how many senior games he'll play in 2025, so you are effectively arguing with a paper bag as your previous post stated we are on the same page.

Your first post was vaguely pessimistic but when I pushed you for a number it turns out you're Martin-optimistic. Quite a few would pencil him in for 2 senior games or less.

 

[Vdubs]

Mate we agree on how many senior games he'll play in 2025, so you are effectively arguing with a paper bag as your previous post stated we are on the same page.

I don't agree at all. I have no idea. All I did was give an average of what he's done so far. From many reports, he can't get his body right. You think 12. I guess anything from 3-11. Not arguing, just the usual pessimism angle you come up with if I relay what has been discussed and told to me and it happens to differ from your "optimistic" pov.
Good thing is, low cost, low risk, and he is class.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I didn't think Martin would be the sort of player we would target when he was first linked but we have taken 7 guys at 40+ in the draft so taking a risk on Martin compared to drafting another guy at pick 80 is a meh whatever to me.

We are probably going to have to take a few DFA over the next few years to fill the list out after retirements. Having 15+ super speculative young players on the list wouldn't be pretty.

Hopefully next year we can hit quality trade ins/FAs as a pose to DFAs (like we did in 2015). The FA market wasn't there this year.

 

[Mr Meow]

I don't agree at all. I have no idea. All I did was give an average of what he's done so far. From many reports, he can't get his body right. You think 12. I guess anything from 3-11. Not arguing, just the usual pessimism angle you come up with if I relay what has been discussed and told to me and it happens to differ from your "optimistic" pov.
Good thing is, low cost, low risk, and he is class.

I said 12 games, you said 11. On the same page.

If you want to go with 3 (which does fit better with your original post), that's cool too. I'll revise it now.