Not-a-cluey Best FOOTBALL RELATED RUMOUR you have heard from someone you trust Part Deux - Many lies and bullshit in here. Please read OP before posting.

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[Happy Mastenator]

Naitanui is both.

He is/was fantastic at a couple of things.

Horrendous and sub 2nd tier footy standard at pretty much everything else.

The debate is whether his couple of fantastic qualities outweighed the liability he was everywhere else.

What are these things that he's sub 2nd tier footy standard at?

 

[GWT6]

Naitanui is both.

He is/was fantastic at a couple of things.

Horrendous and sub 2nd tier footy standard at pretty much everything else.

The debate is whether his couple of fantastic qualities outweighed the liability he was everywhere else.

Nailed it.

 

[Lampers]

What are these things that he's sub 2nd tier footy standard at?

Fitness/endurance.

Kicking for any type of touch or finesse.

Ability to read the play.

 

[Golden_6]

Fitness/endurance.

Kicking for any type of touch or finesse.

Ability to read the play.

It’s astounding how little he marks the football as a ruckman.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Fitness/endurance.

Kicking for any type of touch or finesse.

Ability to read the play.

He's actually a good kick, given he is highly contested in nature, he's not exactly out there trying to do dinky/touch kicks. Not sure that means he's by default bad at it.

He can read the play fine as when he was at his fittest, he was a constant road block down the line for the opposition. The issue is around his fitness. He's an explosive monster that doesn't have a natural endurance inclination, it's been further destroyed by two knee reco's. He used to average mid 70's in terms of TOG, including a career best 82% before his knees went.

He has his strengths and weaknesses, but to argue that he is a 2nd tier footy standard is a bit much. Especially given almost every rating system rates him extremely highly for what he does on field.

 

[GWT6]

He's actually a good kick, given he is highly contested in nature, he's not exactly out there trying to do dinky/touch kicks. Not sure that means he's by default bad at it.

He can read the play fine as when he was at his fittest, he was a constant road block down the line for the opposition. The issue is around his fitness. He's an explosive monster that doesn't have a natural endurance inclination, it's been further destroyed by two knee reco's. He used to average mid 70's in terms of TOG, including a career best 82% before his knees went.

He has his strengths and weaknesses, but to argue that he is a 2nd tier footy standard is a bit much. Especially given almost every rating system rates him extremely highly for what he does on field.

Wow - that's some serious bias.

 

[HeathySure]

Wow - that's some serious bias.

think you might be the biased one my friend

its facts

 

[GWT6]

think you might be the biased one my friend

its facts

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Hitouts are easily the most irrelevant statistic in AFL. Clearances are impressive. But aside from grabbing the ball out of the ruck and running with it (which he does better than anyone I've seen) - what else does he offer?

 

[HeathySure]

Hitouts are easily the most irrelevant statistic in AFL. Clearances are impressive. But aside from grabbing the ball out of the ruck and running with it (which he does better than anyone I've seen) - what else does he offer?

have a look at his ruck work once in a while..

 

[sross]

Here are his stats

Averages 5.28 kicks, 1.75 marks, 7.07 handballs, 26.07 hitouts & 4.23 clearances per game

AFL Tables - Nic Naitanui - Stats - Statistics

 

[GWT6]

have a look at his ruck work once in a while..

Ruck work is so overrated. Ruckmen would have similar stats if they just randomly tapped the ball in any direction. The best ruckman average around a third of their hit outs to advantage, a third neutral and a third to disadvantage. The highlights only show the taps to advantage and idiots like BT convince people like you that they are giving "Silver Service".

Pick any top ruckman, get a pen a paper, watch a game, and make a note of every ruck contest, then tell me that it's worth looking at his ruck work.

 

[HeathySure]

Ruck work is so overrated. Ruckmen would have similar stats if they just randomly tapped the ball in any direction. The best ruckman average around a third of their hit outs to advantage, a third neutral and a third to disadvantage. The highlights only show the taps to advantage and idiots like BT convince people like you that they are giving "Silver Service".

Pick any top ruckman, get a pen a paper, watch a game, and make a note of every ruck contest, then tell me that it's worth looking at his ruck work.

ok

Thats why the best ruckmen are paid a fortune a year.... cos they are over rated. I am sure you would make a great list manager and pick no rucks

 

[cherrypie]

So, with all this Nic Nat talk, what actually is the relevant rumour or scandal?

 

[Tugga27]

That's some serious overrating going on.

Natanui has always had low football IQ and poor skills. take out the effort and athleticism and he is a very poor footballer. For a bloke his size and athleticism to average 1.75 marks per game is absolutely terrible. He struggles to read the play and just chases the ball, normally a play behind.

"Poor skills".
OK

Cats coach left 'mesmerised' by Nic Nat

Geelong coach Chris Scott was impressed by star Eagle Nic Naitanui's performance

www.afl.com.au

 

[ioppolo]

So, with all this Nic Nat talk, what actually is the relevant rumour or scandal?

Jackson to west coast was the rumour, I pointed out Naita and B.Williams just signed two year deals

 

[The Devils Advocate]

Naitanui has no middle ground with posters and fans of oppo clubs.
He's either s**t/overrated or worth every cent.

Fat and middle ground for me.

 

[leon123]

So, with all this Nic Nat talk, what actually is the relevant rumour or scandal?

If the image of him was a gut or protection padding, I'd guess at?

 

[Lampers]

So, with all this Nic Nat talk, what actually is the relevant rumour or scandal?

The rumour is he’s really pudgy.

The scandal is when West Coast supporters pretend Naitanui doesn’t have glaring weaknesses.

 

[kozi]

What an interesting week.

The scandals board has turned into main board and the main board has turned into the scandals board.

 

[LanceRomance]

Talking about nicnats strengths and weaknesses is a real low point for this thread

 

[Roo Beauty]

Talking about nicnats strengths and weaknesses is a real low point for this thread

Source?

 

[Pistol Night]

Talking about nicnats strengths and weaknesses is a real low point for this thread

Huge if true

 

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[Cuzz09]

Can someone explain glascotts glass monkeys or whatever everyone on here goes on about? like the full story

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[collingwoodmick]

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