Finnaly someone who can analyse the game without the spin, I like it.Not sure if anyone has pointed this out yet but our tackle count is down and we aren't really giving the kids a go
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Finnaly someone who can analyse the game without the spin, I like it.Not sure if anyone has pointed this out yet but our tackle count is down and we aren't really giving the kids a go
How many top-8 teams are getting plenty of games into their 18-19 year olds? Not many!How old was Brodie Smith at the start of the season Froggy? Yes, he turned 20 in January. The original stat was about players aged 18 or 19 at the start of the season (as listed by Champion Data) On our main list we had Joyce (18 - 0), Kerridge (18 - 1), Ellis-Yolmen (19 - 0), Grigg (19 - 0). Lyons (19 - 3) and Brown (19-0)
Now, 3 + 1 = 4
Let's compare this to the Kangaroos Atley (19 - 12), Harper (19 - 12), Cameron Delaney (19 - ) and McKenzie (18 - 2) and they have had less injuries than us.
How about Brisbane Crisp (18-3), Longer (18 - 5), Polec (19 - 11), Lester (19 - 11), Yeo (18 - 1), Green (19 - 5) and Karnezis (19 - 4). I'm just ball parking it here Froggy but I think thart adds up to more than 4.
Feel free to check all the stats.........AND THEN APOLOGISE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
P.S. You don't have to be nervous to have a red face.
How many top-8 teams are getting plenty of games into their 18-19 year olds? Not many!
Generally only get plenty of games into players this young if rebuilding.
I'm more concerned about our core 20-25 year olds getting games & our <20 learning most of their craft in the SANFL, unless their form demands a place... rather than dropping all our 25+ players for <20 age players.
Just a question...AFGM...which 18 to 19 year olds are playing well enough to get a gig? I'm happy to see them in the team if their form warrants it. Haven't seen too many of them in the first couple of bests for SANFL...maybe Brown, Kerridge was in the bests last week. All well and good to say play the kids, but obviously people with more info than us deem them not ready for it yet.
Other teams are doing it yes, but you could say Brisbane is rebuilding after mad Vossys first year at the helm and North have been for 3 years or so. Melbourne, Richmond, The Doggies are all on the rebuild or refurnish so they are going to have more young players as they have cut their dead wood and recycled players and gone with the youth policy. Think Sando will give one year grace to some on our list from the Craig years and if they don't make the grade...Super draft coming up.
Argument has been made I sure that last couple of years we have found new younger players due to the fact we had to play just about whoever could walk. But most of the players that are now in the side or just outside selection were rooks that had matured a bit playing SANFL footy.
This year probably wont be the year for the GF, we need to get games into the 20-25 year olds that will take us deep into the finals consistently. The window is certainly open and younger players will get their turns, when the injuries and form dictate.
Take what you will from the ramble.
I'd like to think it were that simple. Sadly, it's not. We spent most of last week chasing North Melbourne jumpers (they had 20% more disposals than we did). End result: our lowest tackle count for the entire season.
I'd argue that our form has dropped badly since the break. A below average tackle count is just one symptom of a much greater problem.
A more interesting question is why has our form dropped off? Are they doing additional training, building up for a finals campaign? Or, are our younger players just tiring as the season progresses? These questions are not intended to be rhetorical in nature.
No they have nothing to do officially with the club and i can't remember where they heard it from, but i had 3 of my mates confirm similar info all within 2 days after the NM loss.
And none of them know each other, so they aren't getting together to wind me up
We were just analysing the loss (as i do with mates) and they mentioned it as a possible reason. So its not 100% confirmed, but it would make some sense surely?
I know you love it when I'm annoying. The good news is I'm not even trying to be.. most the time.The key one is Jarryd Lyons, a 19 year old second year player who according to some Glenelg officials was BOG three weeks in a row. We have ignored Kerridge despite a very promising pre-season and it has taken him some time to get settled at Sturt. The style played at Unley is very different from the Crows and it is not surprising that it has taken him a while to get used to it. Unlike the other 17 teams, we ignored most of our KIDS during the pre-season. (want the stats?) It was fortunate that Collingwood gave almost all their KIDS a good run in the pre-season since they have been able to slip them smoothly into the team to replace all the guys that have been injured (Did you see Marley Williams and Jamie Elliott last week, let alone Alex Fasolo who is a 19 year old second year player). Luke Brown was kicking up dust at Norwood late in the pre-season and despite Sando pumping up others like Mitch Grigg we decided to use the pre-season to get Stiffy and Dogga fit.
My main issue has been ignoring Shaw despite a great pre-season and then dropping Brodie Smith. These guys were 20 at the start of the season (we also are near the bottom of the list for playing guys 18, 19 or 20).
Anyone else notice that West Coast are ranked 2nd last in tackles this year?
and Collingwood are ranked 13th in tackles?
Tackle count, schmackle count.
As outlined at the start of the year, I looked at players aged 18 or 19 at the start of the season. It covers most but not all of the first and second year players. Following criticism that I was "manipulating the statistics", I also provided statistics on players 18, 19 and 20. We are still near the bottom of the list.
What do you consider KIDS? Everyone younger than Dogga? Should I include Nutta?
Despite having one of the youngest LISTS in the AFL, the average age of our TEAM over the first 12 matches has been one of the oldest. We have a great list of players 21-23 but we need to keep regenerating the team. A back six that includes Johncock, Rutten, Reilly and Doughty will come back to bite us on the arse, possibly in 12 weeks time.
atty, a much more promising prospect than Kerridge only got the 2 or 3 games for a taster first year. Essentially, calm the **** down over Kerridge - you're looking like a goose banging on about him.
North Melbourne have had less injuries than us and they have given 31 games to their KIDS (we have given 4 games to Lyons and Kerridge or to be more precise about 200 minutes of football). The injury excuse has definitely increased the games given to the Collingwood, West Coast and Geelong KIDS but it wouldn't be hard to beat 4 games. It doesn't explain Brisbane - 40games, Bulldogs - 33 games, Richmond - 26 games and even St Kilda's Dads Army - 19 games. It is all about investing in the future. We have not been good investors so far this year.
How old was Brodie Smith at the start of the season Froggy? Yes, he turned 20 in January. The original stat was about players aged 18 or 19 at the start of the season (as listed by Champion Data) On our main list we had Joyce (18 - 0), Kerridge (18 - 1), Ellis-Yolmen (19 - 0), Grigg (19 - 0). Lyons (19 - 3) and Brown (19-0)
Now, 3 + 1 = 4
Let's compare this to the Kangaroos Atley (19 - 12), Harper (19 - 12), Cameron Delaney (19 - ) and McKenzie (18 - 2) and they have had less injuries than us.
How about Brisbane Crisp (18-3), Longer (18 - 5), Polec (19 - 11), Lester (19 - 11), Yeo (18 - 1), Green (19 - 5) and Karnezis (19 - 4). I'm just ball parking it here Froggy but I think thart adds up to more than 4.
Feel free to check all the stats.........AND THEN APOLOGISE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
P.S. You don't have to be nervous to have a red face.
And how many wins have the Roos and Lions had?
Are you saying they are going to be a powerhouse in the AFl over the next few years and we are going to slip right back?
If not, stop talking crap
Anyone read the Advertiser this morning?
I guess I'm not the only one to notice the poor tackle count (I will count Sando in my team).
After 6 years of pathetic tackling and corralling we almost set a new world record with an outstanding 4 tackles in the second quarter on Sunday. This is apparently the worst quarter in the history of the Crows according to Michaelangelo Slimebag.
Denial, a river in Egypt?
You may not have noticed that the Clueless Kangaroos had a win on the weekend Freddy.
Anyone read the Advertiser this morning?
I guess I'm not the only one to notice the poor tackle count (I will count Sando in my team).
After 6 years of pathetic tackling and corralling we almost set a new world record with an outstanding 4 tackles in the second quarter on Sunday. This is apparently the worst quarter in the history of the Crows according to Michaelangelo Slimebag.
Denial, a river in Egypt?
You may not have noticed that the Clueless Kangaroos had a win on the weekend Freddy.