Big Cricket Thread

[DanWCE]

 

[Truckosaurus]

Noice

 

[Keys]

Test cricket around Australia

Melbourne - guaranteed Boxing Day test each year that people can plan around and are on holidays. Always going to get good crowds. Don’t get minnow teams either

Sydney - guaranteed New Years test. See Melbourne

Adelaide - installed as the pink ball test venue it seems. Crowds build when work finishes

Brisbane/Perth/Hobart - left to fight over the scraps. Sometimes a good side, sometimes not. Usually held outside holiday times so people not able/willing to take time off work

Don’t pretend for one moment if this test was currently being played at the MCG it’d magically be full. Play the Boxing Day test in Perth (won’t happen I know) and the stadium would be overflowing

On a broader note, test cricket is given scant respect from administrators now. It used to be a touring side would come out weeks before the first test, play at least one, often two, warm up 3/4 day matches

All the while there would be a build up to the first days play of the first test. It was a big event

Now there’s so much cricket, tests don’t have room to breathe anymore and interest in them wanes

It used to be if a test was on unless I HAD to be somewhere I’d be parked in front of the TV. Now it’s just something I turn on if I’m not doing anything else

 

[Dazzler9]

The Test season is very short these days. Usually lasts a max of 6 weeks.

Given that, is there any reason they can't run it concurrently with the school holidays? Something something BBL perhaps??

 

[Dazzler9]

So you could have the Gabba Test to kick things off in mid-December, then the BDT, followed by the New Year's Test in Sydney. Over to Perth for Test #4, then across to Adelaide for what used to be the traditional Australia Day Test.

 

[Truckosaurus]

The Test season is very short these days. Usually lasts a max of 6 weeks.

Given that, is there any reason they can't run it concurrently with the school holidays? Something something BBL perhaps??

Something something BBL.

 

[Ljp86]

Jeez for all the bellyaching about Perth getting a raw deal with Tests, this piss poor turn out to the first day of Test cricket in 3 years justifies the past decisions.

CA has treated WA cricket fans poorly for years. Unsurprising that there's not much of a crowd at a game against a fairly low ranking opponent on a weekday in November.

 

[Rowan18]

So you could have the Gabba Test to kick things off in mid-December, then the BDT, followed by the New Year's Test in Sydney. Over to Perth for Test #4, then across to Adelaide for what used to be the traditional Australia Day Test.

I doubt Cummins would play on Australia day - he'd have some slacktivism to take care of.

 

[ioppolo]

For someone who bowls 120km mediums, Kyle Mayers bowling goes alright.
Looked as dangerous as anyone else. Would be a nightmare in English conditions.

 

[xInfected_Virus]

West Indies I reckon should've included Cornwall in this tour and he should've been their number one spinner over Chase who's more of a batting all rounder. He's more accurate and consistent than Chase which is needed in spin bowlers graveyard called Optus Stadium. Chase did not have the control to put pressure on the Australian batsmen that Cornwall would have and I don't think he's injured. Sure he maybe fat but the dude can bowl long spells and is much better than Chase as an off spinner.

Roach bowled pretty decently and tried his heart out but just doesn't have the pace to be threatening but his control was ok, he would've done better if he had his 140+ km/h pace about 10-12 years ago. IMO control is more important than pace which is why Mayers and Holder's medium pacers looked the most dangerous due to their control and their economy rates are really good. I'd say Mayers and Holder are their most dangerous bowler due to accuracy alone and Holder does have an excellent test economy rate that's closer to Glenn McGrath's and Mayer's economy rate is closer to Ambrose's. Both Mayers and Holder are support bowlers though and you can't rely on great support bowlers to win you matches and bowl the opposition out for a modest score consistently, they need a gun fast bowler who's accurate which is the most important thing imo and can move the ball naturally.

A.Joseph was the only bowler who can bowl at over 135 km/h and I felt he bowled decently against this strong Australian batting lineup in day one at least. He'd be more threatening if he had the control of Holder and Mayers. Seales did have a surprise factor but got hammered, just didn't seem to have the control at all and worst he bowls at 130 km/h range which make him non threatening and easy to score runs off.

I think West Indies bowled as well as they could but Australia's batsmen Marnus and Smith and Khawaja are just too good. Warner though is living on credits in the bank having had a poor Pakistan and Sri Lankan tours and was poor against India and did not have a good last half Ashes. Khawaja should've been opening all this time before he cemented his spot I do think he would've played a lot more matches as an opening batsmen that is if he didn't do his ACL in 2013 and would've been an upgrade on Chris Rogers imo.

Nice to see Marnus come back to form against this non threatening WI attack although the true test for him is in India against Ashwin, Jadeja and Axar but now hopefully get makes a double hundred and Smith also makes a double hundred on the same day too. If they get out early then hopefully Green can get his hundred in his home crowd.

I expect the WI batsmen to get bowled out cheaply, they just lack temperament and consistency to overcome this powerful Australian attack. Lyon will hold up an end and pressure the WI batsmen to attack the gun Aussie pacers of Starc, Hazlewood and Cummins which good luck with that. Chanderpaul's son though I do rate, he posses the temperament that his father possesses and I see him as the one to carry this WI batting line up just like his father once did. Difference though that he opens and Shivnarine batted at number 5.

Until WI find that star consistent accurate strike bowler and consistent batsmen, they will stay near the bottom of the ICC test rankings. Hopefully WI can produce a bowler who has a 25 ish bowling average with a 2.80 economy rate and a batsmen who averages 50 and solid middle order batsmen who averages in the 45 - 50 range.

I can see Australia easily beating the WI this series.

 

[InTheWings]

Are the people questioning Perth right to host attest because of yesterday’s crowd of 10,000. Are those same people applying that logic to Sydney’s right to host one-day matches? Same size crowd?

The reality, as some have already posted, is that CA doomed the crowd figures with the fixturing.


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[FKASC]

**** yeah. Only get him for a few games but a gun

 

[Agent93]

If my maths are correct we had a 142 run 2nd wicket partnership and at stumps have a 142 run 3rd wicket partnership going.

I like little symmetries like that.

 

[Truckosaurus]

OOo, so close to the contributions by each batsman being the same too

 

[MrKK]

Test cricket around Australia

Melbourne - guaranteed Boxing Day test each year that people can plan around and are on holidays. Always going to get good crowds. Don’t get minnow teams either

Sydney - guaranteed New Years test. See Melbourne

Adelaide - installed as the pink ball test venue it seems. Crowds build when work finishes

Brisbane/Perth/Hobart - left to fight over the scraps. Sometimes a good side, sometimes not. Usually held outside holiday times so people not able/willing to take time off work

Don’t pretend for one moment if this test was currently being played at the MCG it’d magically be full. Play the Boxing Day test in Perth (won’t happen I know) and the stadium would be overflowing

On a broader note, test cricket is given scant respect from administrators now. It used to be a touring side would come out weeks before the first test, play at least one, often two, warm up 3/4 day matches

All the while there would be a build up to the first days play of the first test. It was a big event

Now there’s so much cricket, tests don’t have room to breathe anymore and interest in them wanes

It used to be if a test was on unless I HAD to be somewhere I’d be parked in front of the TV. Now it’s just something I turn on if I’m not doing anything else

On one hand I'm grateful that SACA were quick to jump on the D/N Test wagon, on the other I wonder if we'll ever get a red-ball Test again. Plus CA quietly removed our Australia Day game that was a reliable fixture each season.

It's a piece of piss to attract Test crowds if you're Melbourne or Sydney and know your dates years in advance and that you'll always get the best touring team each summer.

 

[Agent93]

On one hand I'm grateful that SACA were quick to jump on the D/N Test wagon, on the other I wonder if we'll ever get a red-ball Test again. Plus CA quietly removed our Australia Day game that was a reliable fixture each season.

It's a piece of piss to attract Test crowds if you're Melbourne or Sydney and know your dates years in advance and that you'll always get the best touring team each summer.

That tradition was born of the logic that those two cities would generate the most revenue because they had the biggest grounds. That's not the case now with both Perth Stadium and Adelaide Oval having larger capacity than the SCG.

I don't see it changing though, because now the crowds are a self-fulfilling prophecy because of the stable fixture.

 

[Agent93]

Good to see Marnus Chimichanga is cashing in against the lower quality opposition. Should be a cakewalk for our batsmen in this series, proof will be whether the bowling attack can perform on what looks like a batting wicket.

I'm also keen to see how Tangerine Chanderpaul does against an international attack.

 

[Dazzler9]

Gotta love how channel 7 plays Missy Higgins' The Special Two when they show a montage of Marnus and Smith batting together. Not the first time they've gone with that music choice. Someone's got a sense of humour I reckon.

 

[Dazzler9]

Good to see Marnus Chimichanga is cashing in against the lower quality opposition. Should be a cakewalk for our batsmen in this series, proof will be whether the bowling attack can perform on what looks like a batting wicket.

I'm also keen to see how Tangerine Chanderpaul does against an international attack.

I reckon the Aussies will get plenty out of the wicket.

 

[Truckosaurus]

Gotta love how channel 7 plays Missy Higgins' The Special Two when they show a montage of Marnus and Smith batting together. Not the first time they've gone with that music choice. Someone's got a sense of humour I reckon.

Or just picked it from the title search results for 'two' and never thought about it again.

 

[Agent93]

Yep, Green and Head should swap places in the order.

 

[DanWCE]

Smith and Head to reach their next respective milestones and then declare at 500+?

 

[Doashuey]

Smith and Head to reach their next respective milestones and then declare at 500+?

I think its a bit early. They put the foot down and they should be pshing for their 100 and 200 , still have 15 overs at the Windies today and almost guarntees they dont need to bat again unless they are looking to rest their bowlers for a couple of sessions.

 

[Biggie]

Declare at like 5.20pm

10 minute for change over

Then 30 minutes of Starc, Hazelwood and Captain Climate Change

 

[RookiePick]

Head...loool