BigFooty Official Big Footy 2016 Phantom Draft - Trial Run

[Quigley]

I might have to go back and look a bit more closely at Berry. His kicking is one of my big issues with him at this stage.

 

[LemmingMaster]

I did consider Berry with my last pick, just based on my limited vision, I want to see his second half of the season before moving him up the rankings.

 

[Offsider]

I might have to go back and look a bit more closely at Berry. His kicking is one of my big issues with him at this stage.

It is definitely not a strength yet and he does turn the ball over too much. He his helped by his decision making and I think he knows his limitations. I believe that it is an area that he will improve at and he looks to me like he might become one of those efficient users of the ball who hits targets regularly but is not a damaging kick by any means.

 

[Snoop Dog]

We will wait a bit Knightmare as want him to have his first pick and we are going along ok.

 

[Chris25]

Wish I had a second round pick, so many decent options available. The three I'd be choosing from are still on the board...

Like the picks so far though. Three players I personally wouldn't have taken, but some real value with the likes of Berry, Rotham and Taranto.

 

[Snoop Dog]

Wish I had a second round pick, so many decent options available. The three I'd be choosing from are still on the board...

Like the picks so far though. Three players I personally wouldn't have taken, but some real value with the likes of Berry, Rotham and Taranto.

Well come on ....... who are they?

 

[foj1]

my guess would be brodie at one- prefer sps or hm
venables and clarke.
how close am i?

 

[Wizard17]

Pick 12 - Tim English

Tim English (Via South Fremantle)

Position: Ruck
Height: 203cm
Weight: 86kg
DOB: 8/10/1997

Bio: English wasn't always a ruckman only 3 years ago he was playing as a 184cm midfielder before he had a 20cm growth spurt that made him turn into one, as such he has a lot of traits that you would expect to find in a midfielder rather than a 203cm ruckman. His footskills stand out, I have never seen a ruck where I can generally put into the "Elite" category in this area before. He is also very clean at ground level for his size and also gets involved in chains of possessions more than most rucks that I have seen in the last few years again throwbacks to his past as a midfielder.

He is quite skinny and needs to put on about 15kg+ to be able to hold his own in the AFL whether or not the extra weight will cause him to lose some of his athleticism only time will tell. He is a risk to pick up given that he doesn't dominate in the ruck as of yet and hasn't had much of showing playing other positions (I and some others on here seem to want to see him have a go as a KPD given what he can do) but the ceiling is very high and if it can be reached he could very well be one of the best ruckman in the competition.

Why the Dogs?: As the Dogs are lacking very much with top end talent in the ruck department this pick comes as no real surprise as English is the best ruckman in this draft pool and is a potential top 10 pick come draft day. His traits also suits the Dogs style of play which made this pick somewhat easier.

Others that I thought of at this pick: Timothy Taranto, Jy Simpkin

 

[Chris25]

Well come on ....... who are they?

Can't say who I'd have been choosing between, they might slip to the third round...

The ones I wouldn't have picked yet though are Jordan Gallucci, Dylan Clarke and Luke Ryan. I just can't get behind Gallucci being the best kick in the draft, I haven't been impressed. As for Harry Perryman, are you picking him as a midfielder? I'm still of the opinion he becomes a half back flanker.

 

[Chris25]

Edited in my write up of Marshall on the first page...

#3 Fremantle - Todd Marshall (198cm, 87kg forward from Murray Bushrangers)

If the draft were held today, I wouldn't expect Marshall to be the #3 pick but it's a genuine possibility with a strong finish to the season and if he performs well at the Combine - which I expect he will. He might never climb to be the third best player in the draft, but he is the number one tall and that shouldn't change. And for Fremantle, that's as good as being the best player overall.

I won't bother with his backstory too much, people should know it - played cricket last year, came to football late, ruled ineligible for the GWS Academy. That should cover it. The key point to take out is that he is still 'raw' in terms of his footballing. And considering that, he really does display a lot of natural ability. It's that natural feel for the game which is a big strength, and suggests plenty of improvement to come. When he goes for a mark, he leads straight at the ball and leaps high and out in front of himself - which means he either takes the ball at it's peak or comfortably on his chest. He just positions his body well, which makes it hard for defenders to spoil without giving away a free. And if there's one thing I like, it's a skinny tall being able to take a contested mark.

Otherwise, he's a good kick on goal. His technique is relaxed and simple, not a whole lot that can go wrong. He's kicked 12.3 in the TAC Cup. Not only that, but he can also comfortably kick over 50m. And another strength is his ability below his knees, something he showed off at the Championships. He has good pace for someone his height, and looked a one touch player on the ground. Gave the ball of well too.

In terms of weaknesses, I'm pretty happy with Marshall's game overall. How easily he puts on weight and muscle will be a massive factor in his success though. He doesn't look to have the broadest shoulders for a big man, which could limit his size a bit. That's really the only concern I have. Otherwise, he could perhaps play with a bit more urgency at times. But that will come when the speed of the game increases at the next level up.

I do think he compares well to some of the KPPs from previous years. Last year for example, Schache was more dominating which would give him a slight edge. But I'd slot Marshall in ahead of Weideman and McKay, which puts him firmly in top 10 calculations. For a player comparison, I'll be keeping a close eye on Eric Hipwood over the next few years. He's been super impressive the past month, and he does have similar strengths. I'll be first to admit, it looks like I was wrong about him. I didn't think he had true KPP ability, but he's proven me wrong already. And I think Marshall could have a similar impact early on his career.

 

[Wizard17]

Can't say who I'd have been choosing between, they might slip to the third round...

The ones I wouldn't have picked yet though are Jordan Gallucci, Dylan Clarke and Luke Ryan. I just can't get behind Gallucci being the best kick in the draft, I haven't been impressed. As for Harry Perryman, are you picking him as a midfielder? I'm still of the opinion he becomes a half back flanker.

Reckon we might have the same players in mind. I have a about 4-5 that I thought would go earlier that I'm keen on at 30.

 

[Snoop Dog]

Can't say who I'd have been choosing between, they might slip to the third round...

The ones I wouldn't have picked yet though are Jordan Gallucci, Dylan Clarke and Luke Ryan. I just can't get behind Gallucci being the best kick in the draft, I haven't been impressed. As for Harry Perryman, are you picking him as a midfielder? I'm still of the opinion he becomes a half back flanker.

I agree with you on Gallucci. I would be loathe to spend a first round pick on a player with a ? mark on his foot skills. Shame because if he was a class kick he would at the very top end.

For GWS I think would start as a HB. They have a few blokes who play mid and push to the HF line. I really like what Swans did with Mills in that role and think its a reasonable template for Perryman. He has scope to go in the middle but realistically with the kids they will take this year, got last year, Steele, Ahern, Pickett, Hoskin-Elliott etc they are ok in that area hence I would think he will start as a back.

 

[Chris25]

I agree with you on Gallucci. I would be loathe to spend a first round pick on a player with a ? mark on his foot skills. Shame because if he was a class kick he would at the very top end.

For GWS I think would start as a HB. They have a few blokes who play mid and push to the HF line. I really like what Swans did with Mills in that role and think its a reasonable template for Perryman. He has scope to go in the middle but realistically with the kids they will take this year, got last year, Steele, Ahern, Pickett, Hoskin-Elliott etc they are ok in that area hence I would think he will start as a back.

With Gallucci, I think he's got a pretty looking kick. But aesthetics aside, it's not particularly damaging. I also have question marks over his role, just something about him strikes me as struggling to lock down a specific position. I think I said it in my draft thread, but he reminds me of Hayden Crozier. A good looking player, but he was struggling to find a home until arguably a last chance move to the half back line.

As a half back, I like Perryman. I don't think he's a good enough midfielder to break into the Giants' side though, not if Matt Kennedy and Jack Steele are struggling.

 

[foj1]

I think Dylan will thrive in an AFL environment like his brother is.
There is a kid who I think will go first round who is still on the board. I am interested to see where he lands here but if he is available at 37 i will take him.
Ryan is a good player who will at least get rocked. Interesting that he couldn't make Essendons VFL squad 4 months ago. You can't put brains into monuments.
Gallucci is a steady player. I am not entirely sure of his AFL position.
I think the steal of the draft so far is Jack Scrimshaw.I think he will go really early in late November.

 

[Offsider]

I thought Offsider might have gone with Battle. I am not sure he ever makes it as a number 1 KPF but he has the potential to be a nice second option and GC could use another forward to work off Lynch. Wright is progressing well but I still think he would be best playing predominantly in the ruck as Tippet has done for Sydney this year.

I considered Battle, but I like the look of the tall forwards for the Gold Coast already with Lynch, Wright and Day being a very good trio. I just do not see Battle being better than either of them and he is not good enough at ground level to play the role of a medium marking player. i am not sure why Gold Coast keep persisting with Jarrod Grant though as he is useless, so anybody would be an upgrade there.

 

[Knightmare]

25 Collingwood - Kobe Mutch

Rationale: Fundamentally believing that free agency, trade week and the rookie draft are the times to fill list needs it was an easy decision to pick Mutch who I rate inside my top 10 in this draft. He is the only remaining player inside my top 15 making the decision a simple one.

How he fits Collingwood's list: Kobe Mutch on Collingwood's list would be expected to debut in season one and has a strong chance to push into the clubs best 22 by seasons end. Mutch is a straightforward fit onto a wing and can push onto the ball, forward or back as required also.

Draft summary profile:
Kobe Mutch (NSW/ACT - GWS academy)
Best position: Inside midfield
Height, weight: 184cm, 75kg
Recruited from: Bendigo Pioneers
Plays like: Steele Sidebottom
Projected draft range: first round to second round
Rated last month: 13
Strengths:
- Production
- Endurance
- Unrewarded outside run
- Work rate
- Stoppage work
- Ability to win first possession at stoppages
- Contested ball winning ability
- Distribution by hand
- Tackling ability
- Clean hands
- Links up
- Football smarts
- Comfortable kicking with either foot
- Two-way runner
Weaknesses:
- Lacks an x-factor
- Clean but not damaging ball user by hand and foot
- Pace
- Contested marking

 

[Snoop Dog]

As a half back, I like Perryman. I don't think he's a good enough midfielder to break into the Giants' side though, not if Matt Kennedy and Jack Steele are struggling.

Agree completely.....and add Hopper and lets hope Ahern next year gets a crack.

 

[Snoop Dog]

DraftMe

 

[DraftMe]

Pick 26 (Melbourne) - Jacob Allison

Outside Mid / Utility
194cm / 79kg

The Demons have a great crop of young inside contested ball winning mids, so are going with an outside runner as their 1st pick. He's been thrown around in many positions this year but I think the wing suits him best. He has played 4 TAC Cup games over the last 2 years averaging 21.5 disposals and 7.8 handball receives. Through the 2016 champs he averaged 13.4 disposals including 4 inside 50's per game.

Despite not taking a big leap in development this year I still think he has extremely high potential. The size, athleticism and versatility Allison has is not easy to find and combined with his overhead marking and desire to get the ball moving forward, he couldn't be passed up here.

 

[Offsider]

Excellent selection DraftMe I was going to select Allison.

Gold Coast select Sam Powell-Pepper

Write up to follow, but he is a player with too much potential to overlook here.


Pick 27 - Gold Coast - Sam Powell-Pepper

After already having 5 picks inside the top 25, Gold Coast have already had the luxury of grabbing some of the best talent. This allows me to look for a player who has some really damaging tools and some great qualities with the hope that he may be developed into overcoming some of his deficiencies.

Everyone has heard about the great qualities and traits that he has. He is an absolute powerhouse with a great burst of acceleration that allows him to burst out of congestion and also break the lines. At his best he is very damaging and can break a game open as we saw on occasions with WA at the U18 champs. He is a strong mark and is dangerous around goals, which leads me to believe he is at his best presently as a half-forward. These skills on their own lead me to draft him in the hope that if he is developed correctly he has elite potential.

His weaknesses are what has led him to slide and in my view he will slide further on draft day to a late round pick. His kicking is poor, I believe there maybe issues with his ball drop which lead to him inconsistently hitting targets and he directly turns the ball over a lot with clangers. With so much focus presently being on good kicking skills, maintaining possession of the ball and not committing turnovers he does present a problem. I am unsure on what his endurance is like, he has the skills to play through the midfield but rarely does and is not a high possession winner. I think he can be quite a reactionary player and this will present problems but as I said before he is a long term project.

Gold Coast can afford to take the risk with Sam Powell-Pepper who is a high risk/ high reward player. If he turns into a star midfielder like a Dustin Martin (probably a best case scenario) then who ever selects him will look like a genius. Equally he could be a bust given his deficiencies and never make the grade.

 

[Quigley]

Pick 28 - Brisbane

Jeremy Goddard

Coming into the year Goddard was clearly the number 1 ruck for me and if he was available last year I would have taken as the first ruck last year. He was easily better than any of the rucks running around last year even when he was a year younger. He suffered at the Champs from the introduction of English who got the majority of ruck time for WA. I think WA was worse for that.

In the ruck contest Goddard is a lot better ruck technician than English and he would have given the WA mids first use more often if he was given more time in the ruck. He has dominated in the ruck in the WAFL Colts the last couple of years and looking at the stats from the WAFL Ressies it looks like he picked up 48 hit outs per game in his two games. He is good both at the centre bounce and around the ground ruck contests. He has a decent leap and he is strong enough to overpower many of opponents he has come up against. He had an undersized VFL opponent in the AFL Academy game earlier in the year but he dominated the hit outs all the same.

As mentioned he is a powerfully built young guy but is pretty fluid for a guy his size. From my perspective he seems above average athletically for a ruck but he is not in the same stratosphere as the likes of Nic Nat. With the ball on the ground he will go after it and his hands below the knees are pretty reasonable. He has not been a high possession winner to date but I do think there is untapped potential there. He seems to read the game pretty well and as he builds his engine I think he could be a presence around the ground.

The Lions have to take a ruck this year I think and I actually like quite a lot of the options this year. None had particularly great Champs but there is quite a bit of depth of talent this year and there are a few guys who could find their way onto team lists. Archie Smith is the only young ruck on the Lions list and I have long been pessimistic of his chances of making it. Adding someone like Goddard is very much needed. There are a few forward \ rucks but I think we need a true ruck as we have a few of the forwards who can back up ruck coming down the pipe. One to keep an eye on for the rookie draft is Nate Dennis. He has improved a lot since last year and was the best ruck technician in Div 2 and was ripped off not getting a chance in the Div 1 Champs. What that has meant though is that he is well under the radar.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

How could you forget the swimsuit competition?

Need Donald Trump for that.
He's busy apparantly...

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Well that would have rocked my boat!

And I love your avatar Snoop Dog.

Japan Head of Secret Service: here in Japan, women come second....
Bond: might have to retire to here

 

[Wizard17]

Jack Package

 

[Zach Package]

29 - North Melb - Will Drew

I do apologize for the lack of write ups. I'll come along on sunday when I get some time and do ones for Setterfield and Drew and my 4th round selection if we get that far by then.

Wizard17