Injury Blue Healers Medical Room - 2023

[bigblueboy]

A review of our practices around training and injury management was conducted at the end of last year. Changes were suggested and enacted.
Unfortunately injuries continue to be an area of considerable concern.

 

[Jimmyonesix]

Does Russell's salary mean that the department is under resourced due to the amount he takes from the budget would be the only question I would raise concerning his job ..

 

[The Blue Weirdo]

It's perfectly fine to ask questions of the high performance manager. I myself have questions. He would be in a position to know the causation of these injuries.

However, failing that, we have no evidence to condemn him. Therefore, in order to condemn him, you are also condemning other people at the club for not putting the best interest of the club forward. For example, Brian Cook and Luke Sayers. As these other people who would have the information that we seek and to our knowledge have stuck firm with him.

Injuries are frustrating. We have every right to be upset and disappointed. However, we simply do not have the answers that we need to go further than to question what is happening.

It's more than semantics.

We could probably hire Brissy's entire fitness dept(how good are they going again?)...and Mrs. Martin for less than AR's wage.

Noah Answerth	Face Fractures	3 weeks
Carter Michael	Quad	TBC
James Madden	Shoulder	season
Will Ashcroft	Knee	season
Zac Bailey	Calf	1 week

 

[HarryBeef]

We could probably hire Brissy's entire fitness dept(how good are they going again?)...and Mrs. Martin for less than AR's wage.

Noah Answerth	Face Fractures	3 weeks
Carter Michael	Quad	TBC
James Madden	Shoulder	season
Will Ashcroft	Knee	season
Zac Bailey	Calf	1 week

How much is he on?

 

[JustOneTime]

I don't know enough to rate him and neither do you. I'm not the one saying he's doing a vanilla job.

Oh dear.

Can i ask you 2 very simple questions? 1) what is the point of this website? and secondly, related to question 1, doesn't your point ('I don't know enough') pretty much invalidate 90% plus of content on this site? Including everything you have pretty much posted when you are commenting on Carlton anything?

 

[The Blue Weirdo]

How much is he on?

Sh1tloads.

It is uncanny how lucky Brisbane have been navigating their injury pathways for several years now.

 

[RPCB]

 

[Wickzki]

Sh1tloads.

It is uncanny how lucky Brisbane have been navigating their injury pathways for several years now.

Agree that Brisbane have had a really good run over and extended period of time.

Same can't be said for the Gold Coast who always have a long line of injuries so it's not just a warm weather climate thing like some have suggested.

I think it's more than high performance though though. It's funny that until recently they famously had some of the worst facilities across the league.

Would love to know the secret to their success. Think they haven't had our interest in injury prone play as apart from Joey D.

 

[teagueyubeauty]

You don't want to sack coaches wily nilly but you'd sack someone who is essentially a specialist coach?

There are a lot of people who would argue that Andy Russell has done a lot of good as others have outlined in this thread (e.g. Charlie Curnow, Sam Docherty, etc.).

Does Russell get no credit for helping Docherty back into shape to play a full season of football after his second bout of testibular cancer and getting him on a program that Sam was more than happy to follow to get back by round one? It was a miracle performed by Sam and the coaches of which Russell was a key part

There is zero published evidence to suggest that Russell is at fault for any of it. Lots to prove that he has helped players surpass expectations. Lots to say that other clubs (including at least one with former Carlton people involved during the Russell era chasing his contract, etc.

Russell has a lot of runs on the board. A very well established reputation. Is regularly headhunted yet people who have lauded people for dramatically improving our club (i.e. Cook) have worked to keep him at the club.

Quite honestly, some of the s**t in this thread about Russell is bordering on labelling him a saboteur and quite defamatory.

Aside from random Collison injuries (that can't be helped) injuries are very complex things with a great amount contributing to the causation

I trust in the likes of Sayers and Cook to do the right thing for the Carlton Football Club. Their approach in other areas demonstrates their positive intentions for the club. They're the ones with access to the evidence. Until they decide that Russell has to go then I'm going to hretsin my faith in their decision. We're in a better place than we've been for 20 years. They're not going to * it up if it was that simple.

Gut feel he’s had the worst list of injuries in terms of number of weeks missed across his time at Carlton in the competition by a long long way, that makes him 18th and barely in the straight of the Melbourne cup as the winner crosses the line.

That’s gold standard stuff, we can sit here and hope it changes next year like we have for the last 6+ years but the evidence suggests that ain’t going to happen

It’s not about him being a saboteur, maybe his methods just don’t work for this group of players, but I’ll give you a tip. As it stands, over a long period of time, he’s failed




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[Jeremias]

It’s not about him being a saboteur, maybe his methods just don’t work for this group of players, but I’ll give you a tip. As it stands, over a long period of time, he’s fail Ed

I’ll give you another tip:

You don’t have the requisite information to make such a call definitively.

It’s bizarre you could possibly think otherwise.

 

[HarryBeef]

Oh dear.

Can i ask you 2 very simple questions? 1) what is the point of this website? and secondly, related to question 1, doesn't your point ('I don't know enough') pretty much invalidate 90% plus of content on this site? Including everything you have pretty much posted when you are commenting on Carlton anything?

I'm sure this place means different things to different people. On your second question, there's no harm in your having your opinion, I'm just telling you mine, I would say that commenting on a player or teams' performance is very different to a fitness coach though, we literally have no access to them at all, except how their work shows up in how fit our players are.

 

[HarryBeef]

Sh1tloads.

It is uncanny how lucky Brisbane have been navigating their injury pathways for several years now.

How do you know that?

 

[HarryBeef]

Gut feel he’s had the worst list of injuries in terms of number of weeks missed across his time at Carlton in the competition by a long long way, that makes him 18th and barely in the straight of the Melbourne cup as the winner crosses the line.

That’s gold standard stuff, we can sit here and hope it changes next year like we have for the last 6+ years but the evidence suggests that ain’t going to happen

It’s not about him being a saboteur, maybe his methods just don’t work for this group of players, but I’ll give you a tip. As it stands, over a long period of time, he’s failed




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How much of his performance scorecard is based on injuries?

 

[teagueyubeauty]

Sh1tloads.

It is uncanny how lucky Brisbane have been navigating their injury pathways for several years now.

It’s just luck or bad luck

Every team in the comp has been better at it bar none over a very very long time

Brisbane is the flag bearer, Carlton is the wooden spooner with a west coast 2023 percentage with the second last team having won a handful of games and percentage in the 80’s


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[teagueyubeauty]

Agree that Brisbane have had a really good run over and extended period of time.

Same can't be said for the Gold Coast who always have a long line of injuries so it's not just a warm weather climate thing like some have suggested.

I think it's more than high performance though though. It's funny that until recently they famously had some of the worst facilities across the league.

Would love to know the secret to their success. Think they haven't had our interest in injury prone play as apart from Joey D.

So let’s go and poach the IP, can’t get them then let’s go and poach the 2nd or 3rd best over a long period of time.

Or maybe the best in another high performance competition

Or we can sit with by far the worst over a long period of time and completely blow yet another rebuild


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[teagueyubeauty]

How much of his performance scorecard is based on injuries?

Very high, very very high

Not having a considerable part of your best team on the park over a very long period of time removes your ability to compete for the end game.

Premierships


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[HarryBeef]

Very high, very very high

Not having a considerable part of your best team on the park over a very long period of time removes your ability to compete for the end game.

Premierships


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Where did you get this information?

 

[teagueyubeauty]

It’s quite clearly a personal opinion, how can you have “High Performance” when you constantly have large percentage of your best team not on the park?

What do you think his kpi’s should be?


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[SurreyBlue]

This list could be minimised in a second. Get out of Marvel.

 

[thylacine60]

Where did you get this information?

save your time - tyb is with them now......

 

[Kruezing]

It’s quite clearly a personal opinion, how can you have “High Performance” when you constantly have large percentage of your best team not on the park?

What do you think his kpi’s should be?


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It’s an interesting point you could argue he hasn’t provided much value add at all during his time … and I’ve said this myself in the past … the one change though I’ve noticed this season is we are finishing games a lot better than years gone by … we seem to be fitter … which is a plus …

 

[Doro]

Maybe we can create a new role ' head of injury prevention'. Not sure we have the balance right at present between high performance and injury prevention.

 

[The Blue Weirdo]

How do you know that?

Does it really matter? After being poached from a lineage of several successful clubs, I'm pretty sure he's been well compensated.(and it was reported at the time to be very generous)

I'm not anti Russell, our fitness people have been wonderful/good/satisfactory with fixing Charlie, Doc, Cunners, Gov, Marchy etc.
But Brisbane have been wonderful in this area and it's certainly worth researching their policies.

 

[Ezayyak]

Sh1tloads.

It is uncanny how lucky Brisbane have been navigating their injury pathways for several years now.

Reckon the warmer weather helps. Less likely to sustain injuries, particularly to muscles, in warmer weather, probably

 

[Jeremias]

It’s an interesting point you could argue he hasn’t provided much value add at all during his time … and I’ve said this myself in the past … the one change though I’ve noticed this season is we are finishing games a lot better than years gone by … we seem to be fitter … which is a plus …

Of course you could argue it.

Anything and everything could be argued.

But it’s not really something you can argue logically.

Let me ask you this - what is his role?