Rumour Bluemour Discussion XXXVI - 'Loopy' Season in full swing

[Soapy V]

Owies let go and Sam Durdin and Orazio Fantasia remain on the list ridiculous list management.
Fantasia is contracted for 1 more year we’re just stuck with him, whom was the genius that thought he could contribute to the team.

Sam Durdin is only there as back up if we trade Young and don't get anyone else. I undertsand it, but hopefully we add to our KPD position

 

[Stamos]

Agree with you on his level of output, but he's never been delisted.

Kennedy was delisted in 2020 and moved to the Rookie List.

 

[Wickzki]

Fantasia is depth, and does a great job linking with midfield and applying pressure alongside being able to crumb a goal. I don't think we expected him to play as many games as he did this season.

The expectation was that he would be injury cover and be an important mentor for Moir and others in the VFL.

 

[Jimmae]

Kennedy was delisted in 2020 and moved to the Rookie List.

You're right, I forgot about this! But that was a list strategy manoeuvre, and he was never going to be let go.

I wish we'd gone earlier on some of these players I've called out over the journey, too many players of middling output.

 

[jezza25]

Hopper is 27 and Taranto is 26. Both have another 5 years on their contracts at about $850k and I can't see anyone ever taking over those contacts. Hopper can only play on ball and Taranto would prefer to. Tigers will probably draft two mids with top 6 picks and be looking to get games into them early.

I could see Matty K getting less on ball time with the Tigers than he would with us.

They have Hopper playing on ball. Taranto wants to. Prestia ? Is he going around again ?
Who else ?
Not being a smart arse cos I don’t actually know.
Tigers are drafting half a dozen kids coming up.
Kennedy would nearly be captain next season.

 

[carlton_99]

More on pick 13 and Houston here:

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/trade-hq/afl-trade-news-live-updates-and-news-from-day-2-of-afl-trade-period/live-coverage/eba2e2a221ef14e27694d86eb092f92d#/entry/28304000

Makes it sound like GCS are now waiting for Houston to nominate a club and they will then deal with that club for 13. That club seriously fries my brain - why are they at all concerned with Houston.

 

[Arr0w]

You're right, I forgot about this! But that was a list strategy manoeuvre, and he was never going to be let go.

Kennedy could have been picked up at any time, see Greenwood

I wish we'd gone earlier on some of these players I've called out over the journey, too many players of middling output.

You would have delisted Newman for Williamson

 

[sweethoney]

Looks like it’s all up to Dan now to nominate a team

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

It may still play out that Durdin goes and Owies stays, but he's going to see less opportunities as a forward in the senior side and I'm not sure where else he can play.

If he stays this year, he's probably going the next, but if he's asking for too much money then he goes immediately. Clubs are probably trying to shake him out, then bringing him in as senior depth.


Fantasia is depth, and does a great job linking with midfield and applying pressure alongside being able to crumb a goal. I don't think we expected him to play as many games as he did this season.

Surely time playing in the 1s is based on output and he has first dibs presently (if he remains with us).

 

[Magruder]

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Macrae has a large contract doesn't he? Fairly sure that is effectively a salary dump and not market value. Kennedy would be on a cheap or reasonable contract and is contracted and a lot younger than Macrae. Should be worth a 2nd Rounder at least.

Comparable to the return for ANB I would have thought, although MK is a year younger.

 

[T2B_]

Just nominate us if you're at all serious Dan. We may or may not pull it off, but hate this being up in the air. Plenty of others had no trouble nominating even before the season had fully ended.

 

[RPCB]

More on pick 13 and Houston here:

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/trade-hq/afl-trade-news-live-updates-and-news-from-day-2-of-afl-trade-period/live-coverage/eba2e2a221ef14e27694d86eb092f92d#/entry/28304000

Makes it sound like GCS are now waiting for Houston to nominate a club and they will then deal with that club for 13. That club seriously fry my brain - why are they at all concerned with Houston.

Because they are a feeder club for the other 17 clubs to improve their lists.

 

[Arr0w]

I can't see a point in delaying the start to a Wednesday, the first 2 days are going to be the same, except deals can't be done.
But they shouldn't need the last 2 days to get deals done.
Start on the Monday, weekend to sort it out, finish on the Monday.

Clubs are talking throughout the year, increases back end of the year

 

[Arr0w]

Sounds like GC are happy with either deal, ours or Pies

Now, it will be what Port think before Houston nominates

 

[Jimmae]

More on pick 13 and Houston here:

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/trade-hq/afl-trade-news-live-updates-and-news-from-day-2-of-afl-trade-period/live-coverage/eba2e2a221ef14e27694d86eb092f92d#/entry/28304000

Makes it sound like GCS are now waiting for Houston to nominate a club and they will then deal with that club for 13. That club seriously fries my brain - why are they at all concerned with Houston.

They think they can squeeze more out of a trade that way, and frankly they might be right.

Remember that Port are trying to acquire Lukosius.

Surely time playing in the 1s is based on output and he has first dibs presently (if he remains with us).

I think Motlop and Williams will displace him fully this year, and that's without bringing someone in.

 

[carlton_99]

Sounds like GC are happy with either deal, ours or Pies

Now, it will be what Port think before Houston nominates

If I was a GCS fan I would be seething. Shouldn't they just be trying to get the best deal for their club? Why are they concerned about helping whatever team Houston wants to go to?

 

[Fevolution!]

Gold Coast need to deal with Port on Lukosius. There may be some sort of link there?
I.e. Houston wants to get to the Blues, deal with them and we’ll deal with you on Lukosius

 

[carlton_99]

They think they can squeeze more out of a trade that way, and frankly they might be right.

Remember that Port are trying to acquire Lukosius.

I didn't think of it this way - fair enough. I can't see how our offer would get in anyway better.

 

[HereComesJuddy]

More on pick 13 and Houston here:

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/trade-hq/afl-trade-news-live-updates-and-news-from-day-2-of-afl-trade-period/live-coverage/eba2e2a221ef14e27694d86eb092f92d#/entry/28304000

Makes it sound like GCS are now waiting for Houston to nominate a club and they will then deal with that club for 13. That club seriously fries my brain - why are they at all concerned with Houston.

Suspect they understand our offer is better but they really want Noble. So if they know Houston only wants us, they trade in good faith even though they know our deal is better. Then they don’t look like the bad guy to Collingwood when sorting a deal for Noble

 

[Foucault1989]

I'd rather put Mots behind the ball.


Agree with you on his level of output, but he's never been delisted. Dunkley is the closest skill set, but he's also a lot more physically strong at the same level of pace.

Kennedy was overrated in his draft year, and the complications of his broken leg in that period seem to have hampered his opportunity to really push his body to a level of performance befitting that rarating.

Don't mind this suggestion re: Motlop. Would be good for his development and gets him into the game.

 

[Mondyboy]

Actually don’t mind GCS forcing the issue with Houston. I also think he should nominate and stop all this piss-farting around.

Port can also come out and say that they’ll take Pick 13 provided it comes with another first round pick from this year’s draft, which we have but won’t trade, and which the Pies don’t have. But, if Houston has at least nominated then whatever Port wants they will only have one club to deal with.

 

[Foucault1989]

Nominate your club Houston so we can move on already!

 

[Juddrockz]

Looks like it’s all up to Dan now to nominate a teamView attachment 2135347

Dan wont nominate until a deal can be done with a club,you'd imagine.

 

[RPCB]

I hope Dan Houston

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27

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186cm

Wt

88kg

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18.2

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11.8

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6.4

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3.0

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MG

289.2

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17.6

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11.6

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6.0

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3.3

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3.4

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319.9

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16.6

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279.8

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the player isn’t as passive as Dan Houston

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Dan Houston

Age

27

Ht

186cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

11.8

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

3.0

5star

MG

289.2

4star

D

17.6

4star

K

11.6

4star

HB

6.0

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.4

4star

MG

319.9

5star

D

16.6

4star

K

12.4

5star

HB

4.2

4star

M

7.0

5star

T

2.6

4star

MG

279.8

5star

in the trade period. Can’t he just nominate a club already.

 

[jezza25]

Actually don’t mind GCS forcing the issue with Houston. I also think he should nominate and stop all this piss-farting around.

Port can also come out and say that they’ll take Pick 13 provided it comes with another first round pick from this year’s draft, which we have but won’t trade, and which the Pies don’t have. But, if Houston has at least nominated then whatever Port wants they will only have one club to deal with.

What about North ?