Rumour Bluemour Discussion XXXVII

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SkyhorseTamer said:
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He played key forward and got double teamed by Wilkie and friends. One of the best one on one defenders in the league. Can't wait till we have smalls who demand being defended so the blatant disrespectful double and triple teaming can stop.

Owies rarely even had a man on him, opposition defense's just doubled the threat. Cost them (opposition's) 30 goals over the season but probably saved way more being kicked by the good forwards....

Basically. Kemp didn't do nothing. He attracted 2-3 players every contest. Someone else has to stand up when that happens.
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SkyhorseTamer said:
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He played key forward and got double teamed by Wilkie and friends. One of the best one on one defenders in the league. Can't wait till we have smalls who demand being defended so the blatant disrespectful double and triple teaming can stop.

Owies rarely even had a man on him, opposition defense's just doubled the threat. Cost them (opposition's) 30 goals over the season but probably saved way more being kicked by the good forwards....

Basically. Kemp didn't do nothing. He attracted 2-3 players every contest. Someone else has to stand up when that happens.
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Exactly! Kemp has never played as the third tall forward.

The weakest part of our forward line is the lack of players who are good overhead. A lot of teams have good small and medium forwards who are good overhead. Our small and medium players have no overhead game at all so our ball movement goes through the same two players all the time.

With Kemp, McKay, Curnow and Moir forward next season we are going to be really unpredictable. All four of those player will make each other better.

We will simply go through the better option rather than be hamstrung on where and who we can go to. Means more space and more one on ones.

If we can also improve and quicken our ball movement then that will mean we have one of the more dangerous forward lines in the game.

Kemp excites me, he will get space because the congestion will go to Harry and Charlie. He's got pace. He's going to be tall tall and quick for a lot of opponents. Then there is Moir who's going to kick the odd bag next season because no one is going to go to him or respect him.
 
gbatman said:
Exactly! Kemp has never played as the third tall forward.

The weakest part of our forward line is the lack of players who are good overhead. A lot of teams have good small and medium forwards who are good overhead. Our small and medium players have no overhead game at all so our ball movement goes through the same two players all the time.

With Kemp, McKay, Curnow and Moir forward next season we are going to be really unpredictable. All four of those player will make each other better.

We will simply go through the better option rather than be hamstrung on where and who we can go to. Means more space and more one on ones.

If we can also improve and quicken our ball movement then that will mean we have one of the more dangerous forward lines in the game.

Kemp excites me, he will get space because the congestion will go to Harry and Charlie. He's got pace. He's going to be tall tall and quick for a lot of opponents. Then there is Moir who's going to kick the odd bag next season because no one is going to go to him or respect him.
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...and he can play as a swingman and thrown back when needed.


Might sound silly but I wonder how he'd go as that JSOS style second ruckman at times. He's got a bloody leap on him and is strong.
 
gbatman said:
Exactly! Kemp has never played as the third tall forward.

The weakest part of our forward line is the lack of players who are good overhead. A lot of teams have good small and medium forwards who are good overhead. Our small and medium players have no overhead game at all so our ball movement goes through the same two players all the time.

With Kemp, McKay, Curnow and Moir forward next season we are going to be really unpredictable. All four of those player will make each other better.

We will simply go through the better option rather than be hamstrung on where and who we can go to. Means more space and more one on ones.

If we can also improve and quicken our ball movement then that will mean we have one of the more dangerous forward lines in the game.

Kemp excites me, he will get space because the congestion will go to Harry and Charlie. He's got pace. He's going to be tall tall and quick for a lot of opponents. Then there is Moir who's going to kick the odd bag next season because no one is going to go to him or respect him.
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I'm completely neutral on Kemp. Glad that we didn't firesale him, especially to the Saints . However he hasn't particularly moved the needle at all yet. Can't ever see him being a midfielder despite what some on here say. Definitely isn't a KPD.

I've said it many times, has great hands but doesn't seem to be able to body players or handle being bodied himself. Nice step, good long kick but not a good set shot.

This must be his year. Work on his weaknesses and if JSOS is going back there will be opportunities up forward. Grab those opportunities and he will have a long career in the navy blue. However it might be time for some on here to view him through the same set of glasses that they use to critique others.
 

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Don’t think we can delist J. Carroll now with the interest from GWS and having traded Kennedy. I’d back him in to have a good year next year. He’s still ahead of Lord in the pecking order and is number 1 depth mid for us now.

Also surprised we won’t be taking a DFA according to an article I read today. Looks like we’ll be trialling a few for SSP spots. Grainger-Barrass, McMahon etc.
 
Blue By Blood said:
Don’t think we can delist J. Carroll now with the interest from GWS and having traded Kennedy. I’d back him in to have a good year next year. He’s still ahead of Lord in the pecking order and is number 1 depth mid for us now.

Also surprised we won’t be taking a DFA according to an article I read today. Looks like we’ll be trialling a few for SSP spots. Grainger-Barrass, McMahon etc.
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I think Lord is ahead of Carroll already and one of the reasons we traded Kennedy as he provides good cover in his role and has a lot more upside.
 
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agro said:
I think Lord is ahead of Carroll already and one of the reasons we delisted Kennedy as he provides good cover in his role and has a lot more upside.
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I like Lord and I think he’ll be very good but the hype on him on here is crazy at this point. Carroll is more versatile at this stage still IMO.
 
BigFrizz36 said:
I'm completely neutral on Kemp. Glad that we didn't firesale him, especially to the Saints . However he hasn't particularly moved the needle at all yet. Can't ever see him being a midfielder despite what some on here say. Definitely isn't a KPD.

I've said it many times, has great hands but doesn't seem to be able to body players or handle being bodied himself. Nice step, good long kick but not a good set shot.

This must be his year. Work on his weaknesses and if JSOS is going back there will be opportunities up forward. Grab those opportunities and he will have a long career in the navy blue. However it might be time for some on here to view him through the same set of glasses that they use to critique others.
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Been played out of position in roles that don't suite him. Cripps would be doing the same if played at full back or full forward.

He's an attacking weapon. Not a lockdown player. When we give him some freedom to hunt the footy we will see it all unfold. I think he is suited to half back flank, third tall forward, probably wing and maybe on the ball.

What you are seeing is a player being out bodied playing on bigger opposition. Up forward he will get space to work in and third tall defenders to deal with. Not playing on CHF or big forward pockets.

I'm backing him in, he will go well but may need a little time settling in.
 
AndyLucimitis said:
...and he can play as a swingman and thrown back when needed.


Might sound silly but I wonder how he'd go as that JSOS style second ruckman at times. He's got a bloody leap on him and is strong.
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I have had the same thoughts. I think only ok. Silvagni is a better user of his body and possible a better leap.

McKay was outstanding in the ruck this season, actually turned momentum at times for us. This has to stay.

Having a real third tall in Kemp and a forward pocket who is good overhead like Moir means when McKay goes on the ball we are ok.

Our issue is too many small forwards with no overhead game. Next year McKay, Curnow, Moir and Kemp all have strong overhead games. 4 is better than 2.

Plus TDK can rest at full forward more. IMO McKay should ruck more and DeKoning should go to full forward more.
 

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