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[Stamos]

Unlike a lot of people on here I think Cripps is a big part of the problem.
Sam Mitchell was the same at Hawthorn being appointed the captain he thought he was the club and everyone has to be a part of him.
Stripping him of the captaincy bought him back to Earth with a thud.
I think that's what we need to do here with Cripps or get rid of him.

Or maybe Cripps has been trying to change the cultural problems at the club and has been undermined the last 2 years?

 

[BringFevBack2021]

Sheesh - the talent manager makes a comment that he should not be publicly making and people here turn on our loyal captain who still; mind you - averages 23.5 disposals a game, right around the likes of Bailey Smith

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Bailey Smith

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

, Scott Pendlebury

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Scott Pendlebury

Age

36

Ht

191cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

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D

26.5

5star

K

13.2

5star

HB

13.3

5star

M

4.1

4star

T

4.9

5star

CL

4.9

5star

D

25.1

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

12.9

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.3

3star

CL

3.6

4star

D

12.4

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

4.8

4star

M

5.8

5star

T

2.6

4star

, Adam Treloar

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Adam Treloar

Age

31

Ht

185cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

28.2

5star

K

12.9

5star

HB

15.3

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

4.9

5star

CL

4.6

5star

D

30.3

5star

K

16.3

5star

HB

14.0

5star

M

2.0

2star

T

3.3

4star

CL

5.8

5star

D

18.0

5star

K

11.2

4star

HB

6.8

5star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.6

4star

CL

1.6

4star

, Joel Selwood, Tom Liberatore, Patrick Dangerfield, Dusty Martin..

If our captains worst season is as good as the seasons of the names I've listed above, then I think he's fine. It perplexes me that people could suggest we strip him of the captaincy off the back of comments made by Teague's manager.

 

[Jorge]

With groups like the Loccisano band on record as saying they want the board spill, it’s hard to believe anything going on at the moment.

Those that have a chip on their shoulder about SOS also clearly fabricating the Liddle/Lyon rumour.

 

[Wickzki]

We don't know what support he is eluding too and whether it was given

You don't cry to the media that you want more support without making it clear what you mean by that.

Teague has to go

 

[Dunna Heartknee]

Or maybe Cripps has been trying to change the cultural problems at the club and has been undermined the last 2 years?

I can only tell you what I see during games, when we lose the center clearance, he is gapped by 5 meters while jogging
is this the culture you are talking about.

 

[Doro]

More likely some board members are concerned about Lyon’s potential appointment conflicting with the Carlton Respects message, to the point their position on the board would be untenable.

The Carlton Respects program is a good initiative but it's something that should be in the background to the core business. Both the mens and women's program took a step backwards this year. That's the most important thing to address.

 

[Andonis1997]

RE Pickering's comments - obviously not a great time. However, would the Herald Sun not have control on when that is put out? Albeit some stats may be changed last minute for a game to pick apart but could Pickering could have submitted this weeks ago and HS ran with it at the most effective time?

 

[gunslingr]

This was said after stating there was a bit of a “changing of the guard” and indicating that Weitering, Walsh & McKay understand how to play team football and used terminology like “selflessness” and that they own this team now !!

Perhaps he feels showing Cam Polson the door has ushered in a new dawn at the club

 

[zeggie]

Pickering has utterly destroyed any PR wins that Teague has racked up in past weeks. Absolutely untenable that Teague stays now and the club has this ammunition to refer to in making that decision.

Absolute clown of an agent. Luckily his other client Weiters is already signed up long term.

 

[Magruder]

Very few would disagree that Cripps has had a shocking 2 seasons.

But this is not coming from honest critique; this is coming from the scorched earth policy Teague and Pickering are taking.

I think it's probably better or more accurate to say that his 2020 & 2021 don't compare well to his 2019.

Get back to winning the ball and dishing it out. Add contested marking as an outlet kick and a forward target rotation, (say close to a goal a game on average); and short spells as a relief ruck. Do that and he's a top 20 player in the comp again.

 

[Pixelshooter]

Pickers is just a greasy rat. Nothing more to it IMO

Who could believe a bloke that has a staple diet of tacos every night.

 

[RoyalParade]

Looks like GC have started a football department review.

I wonder when the media will start asking why the board isnt supporting Stewie Dew...

 

[Magruder]

Cripps main weapon is getting in and handballing out to someone free. The last 2 years he has changed and trying to bull his way through packs and take it upon himself to move the ball forward. Teague says Cripps hurt the team by just handballing instead of kicking, seems to me we now know why Cripps changed the last 2 years for the worst, the coach changed Cripps game style for the worst. Another reason he has to go, does not coach to players strengths

dont know if that's Teague, but yes not playing to his obvious strength.

Cripps does need to add to his skillset, but for mine, the additional revolves around his height and versatility.

 

[bigblueboy]

The Carlton Respects program is a good initiative but it's something that should be in the background to the core business. Both the mens and women's program took a step backwards this year. That's the most important thing to address.

I agree that on field performance is the most critical issue to address.

However, a high performing organisation doesn’t sacrifice its values to achieve its vision - in fact it does the opposite.

 

[zeggie]

Agree the leaking is much better but appears someone is leaking that they have gone cold on Ross

That could be leaking from the Ross camp you realise...

 

[branedotorg]

Cripps doesn't need to be a 100% 2 way player, plenty of players have been 1 way and won flags. Martin has won 3 Norms as an immensely 1 way player. Judd was a 1 way player, Ablett jr was 1 way. I mean it's a nice ideal and soundpiece to say everyone needs to go both ways but it's not entirely true.

Whether Pickering was right or wrong is entirely irrelevant, he said what he said because it's what Teague thinks. That was a bush league move by Pickering to out DTs private thoughts like that.

if you have 1 or even 2 players who are 'one way' you need to build a strategy around it.

Defensive slide in the zone where say newnes runs in the opposite direction when saad charges forward with the ball or a player ready to sag defensive side if cripps goes ahead of the contest. the players can still be pressure outlets but it also mean we don't get cut up on turnover, again and again. Its pretty basic tactically but requires buy-in and effort.

Richmond have done it brilliantly in the last few years with players of no particular talent being 2-3 time premiership players because they're willing to run and run and sacrifice personal glory for the team.

Teague's PR is as limited as his grand strategy IMO

 

[BlackGoanna]

If it true that the board is indecisive, we have a real problem. I rate Sayers, but if he has not already galvanised the group and they are a dear in headlights we are screwed regardless of the sacking / appointments. I really hope this is not the case.

Lyon would have been the perfect candidate. If we have board members all PR woak on him this club is going nowhere. You will find it very difficult to get coach , staff, etc that have not made mistakes in the past. The great coaches/ sportspeople by nature carry some baggage.


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[FRUMPY]

Cripps doesn't need to be a 100% 2 way player, plenty of players have been 1 way and won flags. Martin has won 3 Norms as an immensely 1 way player. Judd was a 1 way player, Ablett jr was 1 way. I mean it's a nice ideal and soundpiece to say everyone needs to go both ways but it's not entirely true.

Whether Pickering was right or wrong is entirely irrelevant, he said what he said because it's what Teague thinks. That was a bush league move by Pickering to out DTs private thoughts like that.

at what point were they teague's thoughts?

 

[bergs]

RE Pickering's comments - obviously not a great time. However, would the Herald Sun not have control on when that is put out? Albeit some stats may be changed last minute for a game to pick apart but could Pickering could have submitted this weeks ago and HS ran with it at the most effective time?

The quotes were taken from the Oval Office with Sam Edmund(SEN), which looks like it came out yesterday


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[Arr0w]

You don't cry to the media that you want more support without making it clear what you mean by that.

Teague has to go

2 different statements here

You don't state the specifics in an open forum outside the club, internally, none of us know if he did or didn't request support, what that support was or whether it was given

Whether Teague stays or goes( I believe he is gone), has nothing to do with the above

 

[Arr0w]

The Carlton Respects program is a good initiative but it's something that should be in the background to the core business. Both the mens and women's program took a step backwards this year. That's the most important thing to address.

You can address both, while still aligning with your values

 

[1981]

Not exactly great reading right now for the club. Reading and hearing.

Coach seemingly taking pot shots at his captain.

Coach's manager taking it a step further and then some.

Assistant coaches having to knock on the door to find out they're being fired.

I hope the club can make some good decisions soon because it can't be the happiest of workplaces right at the minute.

 

[Canyouhearthedrums]

You can address both, while still aligning with your values

Most good organisations now take that a step further, which is to say that acting contrary to your values undermines your ability to address performance

 

[AB_Blue]

Apparently Luke Sayers was tweeting about COVID passports while at the club yesterday……seems pretty chill

I don’t mind the debrief with the footy department post season.

They called a review, they owe it to the footy department to give them the findings

I’ve never been sacked from a job but if I was I’d like to know why.

Considering it’s a small industry you would want to know how to improve in order to get another gig


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[Broadside]

Not exactly great reading right now for the club. Reading and hearing.

the worry is we elect not to hire Ross Lyon for historical reasons but Clarkson says no because he sees this mess and how the club's dysfunction could damage his legacy.