Bluemour Season Blast Off Edition XXXIII

[BigFrizz36]

Can we ban Scott Lucas or any ex * scum from managing our players! Already sounds like he's wheeling and dealing to ream a big deal from us for Walsh or wouldn't put it past him into getting Walsh to *.

His commentary was pretty straight forward. Concentrating on trade period for his stable, no great hurry with Walsh and can't see any issues about getting it done in due course.

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

I definitely thought Kennedy ran out the year really well. If he starts that way in 2022 and can maintain it, he can 100% play a key role in a good AFL midfield.

To me he's definitely now shown that he CAN do it. Whether he WILL consistently is the question. His best is good enough, for sure.

Being a strong marking, medium sized forward, also negates the need to play a third tall forward with Charlie and Harry all the time. I think Kennedy is in our best 22 regardless of it being midfield or forward 50.

 

[RPCB]

His commentary was pretty straight forward. Concentrating on trade period for his stable, no great hurry with Walsh and can't see any issues about getting it done in due course.

Yep. Lucas even went as far as to say there was no hurry on the clubs end. It will get done.

 

[sweethoney]

1. Walsh
2. Cripps
3. Cerra
?
5. Hewett
6. Kennedy/Martin/Setterfield

If one of Dow or Williams can cement themselves as the 4th genuine midfielder (20+ disposals a game), our midfield goes from worst in the league to mid-table, which is enough given our defence and forward threats.

Tom Mitchell

 

[Weiterbot23]

* definitely - Merrett, Parish, Shiel, McGrath, Stringer + Langford and Caldwell.

North Melbourne arguably too - Cunnington, Simpkin, Anderson, Tarryn Thomas, LDU + Stephenson.

Our midfield before Cerra and Hewett is the worst by far. Scarily, even Adelaide’s and Gold Coast’s runs deeper than ours.

Dow, SPS, O'Brien, Kennedy, Setterfield, Stocker, Cuningham, Fisher

It's amazing not one could step up and become elite considering the picks where they were taken, just one gun from 8 players taken early!!!!??? Is that too much to ask

 

[katmanblue]

Did you miss this thread by any chance

News - Adam Cerra nominates Carlton

Let the games begin ... https://www.afl.com.au/news/682599/star-docker-cerra-finally-nominates-club-of-choice FREMANTLE midfielder Adam Cerra has nominated Carlton as his home of choice for 2022. Cerra, 21, informed the Dockers and Blues of his decision on Wednesday to move to IKON Park...

www.bigfooty.com

It seems those debating the trade in bluemour thread may have.

 

[katmanblue]

News travels slowly in horse land.

Pony express ain't what it used to be.

 

[Aphrodite]

It seems those debating the trade in bluemour thread may have.

Some just sit on this thread all day & ignore other threads.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

The midfield is the easiest position on the ground to recruit and fix.

One of the greatest and deepest midfields of all time just got belted in a grand final. Swap the rucks and KPP’s of both sides and I reckon the result almost goes the other way.

Very comfortable building around Harry, Charlie, Weiters and TDK and not vice-versa.

Cerra is class. Hewett will allow Cripps and Dow to purely hunt the footy and forget the defensive stuff (not that it happens anyway). Kennedy is a solid enough 5th mid. Stocker will be even better in time.

 

[DEliades]

The lack of noise re Hewett is making me edgy. Cmon CFC

 

[BrownDog20]

Disagree.

 

[carlton_99]

The lack of noise re Hewett is making me edgy. Cmon CFC

same

 

[Curnivore]

T

Love this idea that any indigenous player, committed or otherwise, will be fine at Carlton because Eddie.

they are related

 

[thylacine60]

they are related

point - missed - ok

 

[Crippablues]

In addition to Melbourne and Western Bulldogs the following clubs have at least 5 very good mids:
Geelong
Brisbane
Sydney
Giants
West Coast
Fremantle
Hawthorn
Collingwood

Arguably also Richmond and Essendon and St Kilda.

I would say we have the worst or second worst midfield currently but with the addition of Cerra and Hewett we could move to about 10-12th. But we will still be behind about ten clubs - unless we see more from Cripps and Dow in 2022.



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This must also be the same Freo, Hawks and Collingwood midfield who couldn't beat Carltons right? You're over rating teams midfields. Teams have a structure that works and we dont

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[Coona Blues]

News travels slowly in horse land.

Pony Express ain't what it used to be...

Wow, beaten to it

 

[koutaaa]

The lack of noise re Hewett is making me edgy. Cmon CFC

I’ve got a feeling Sydney are going to force a trade, Judging by Tom Harley’s comments. This is probably the hold up

 

[Metalcrusher]

Pont Express ain't what it used to be...

140 ml's will get you nowhere these days ...

 

[gadj1976]

I know you can read, so you obviously just chose to ignore the, body permitting of course, sentence from the post you quoted.

I think they are two different issues. His body might be ok but we're not great at keeping players on the park - let alone take on someone with proven issues - sorry, that was my point.

 

[Coona Blues]

140 ml's will get you nowhere these days ...

very quick, beat my edit, to make matters worse was beaten to the line...verbatim

 

[bigblueboy]

On a different note, I spoke with a friend who works at a footy club (not ours). He absolutely ripped some of our off-season off-field moves as being '20 years behind the times'.

In particular: Greg Williams, who is very old school, tough love, and doesn't really have much sense of the new fandangled tactics or technical stuff (he also has a chronic brain disorder, not that should preclude people from working but hardly what you want). Voss as a coach is perceived as being a good bloke and motivator, but not so good with the tactical stuff or the development of players. Hamill - similar story there too - a 'motivator' rather than a teacher or

Basically, we're seen to be putting together a great 1990s coaching panel: good blokes, jobs for the boys, guys who keep it simple and call it as they see it etc, but a panel that is miles off in terms of tactical strength, use of data/analytics, and the modern side of things.

I'm not saying I agree necessarily with those sentiments at all - that's just what was conveyed to me. My take is we're hoping to address the cultural side of things first, and that to be honest, that might matter more given where we have been. Will we be better off with a 'roll the ball out and let them play' coaching staff who maybe don't develop the players or game plan? A club philosophy that is just 90s motivation?

With Voss, that actually worked ok with the veteran team he took over. They'd looked to be fading but he coaxed some life out of aging guys and initially had a decent run. But after 5 years, with the young guys notn nreally coming through and the old stars gone, it fell away a bit. For us: I reckon there's some hope there. We aren't a young team any more, and so much of our short-term success is going to be wrapped up in whether the new coach can get the best out of our mid-age players (24-30): Cripps, Weitering, Curnow, McKay, Docherty, Williams, Saad, Jones, Martin, McGovern, Hewitt (presumably), Pittonet, Newnes, Newman, Silvagni, etc. Throw in Walsh / Cerra as young guys who play with maturity and we really have a mature core that should be playing for premierships - we have very few untested/unproven young guys (and those who aren't on the list below have shown.... very little).

So I'm not doom and gloom about that assessment, nor do I speak about someone who is hugely influential, just an insider take.

There are people in the club that have similar concerns to those expressed by your contact.
Too much bluff and bluster.

 

[Metalcrusher]

On a different note, I spoke with a friend who works at a footy club (not ours). He absolutely ripped some of our off-season off-field moves as being '20 years behind the times'.

In particular: Greg Williams, who is very old school, tough love, and doesn't really have much sense of the new fandangled tactics or technical stuff (he also has a chronic brain disorder, not that should preclude people from working but hardly what you want). Voss as a coach is perceived as being a good bloke and motivator, but not so good with the tactical stuff or the development of players. Hamill - similar story there too - a 'motivator' rather than a teacher or

Basically, we're seen to be putting together a great 1990s coaching panel: good blokes, jobs for the boys, guys who keep it simple and call it as they see it etc, but a panel that is miles off in terms of tactical strength, use of data/analytics, and the modern side of things.

I'm not saying I agree necessarily with those sentiments at all - that's just what was conveyed to me. My take is we're hoping to address the cultural side of things first, and that to be honest, that might matter more given where we have been. Will we be better off with a 'roll the ball out and let them play' coaching staff who maybe don't develop the players or game plan? A club philosophy that is just 90s motivation?

With Voss, that actually worked ok with the veteran team he took over. They'd looked to be fading but he coaxed some life out of aging guys and initially had a decent run. But after 5 years, with the young guys notn nreally coming through and the old stars gone, it fell away a bit. For us: I reckon there's some hope there. We aren't a young team any more, and so much of our short-term success is going to be wrapped up in whether the new coach can get the best out of our mid-age players (24-30): Cripps, Weitering, Curnow, McKay, Docherty, Williams, Saad, Jones, Martin, McGovern, Hewitt (presumably), Pittonet, Newnes, Newman, Silvagni, etc. Throw in Walsh / Cerra as young guys who play with maturity and we really have a mature core that should be playing for premierships - we have very few untested/unproven young guys (and those who aren't on the list below have shown.... very little).

So I'm not doom and gloom about that assessment, nor do I speak about someone who is hugely influential, just an insider take.

The players feedback has been good so far.

 

[El Topo]

There are people in the club that have similar concerns to those expressed by your contact.
Too much bluff and bluster.

Don't recall whether it was Diesel or Sayers, but the club itself has publicly noted the strengths that got Voss the top job and the need to surround him with some complementary tactical coaches

 

[Opine]

His commentary was pretty straight forward. Concentrating on trade period for his stable, no great hurry with Walsh and can't see any issues about getting it done in due course.

Having heard that interview, I couldn’t help thinking he might make an effective list manager; at least insofar as exuding confidence in his ability to control and communicate list related stuff.

As much I enjoyed SOS’s interactions with Justin Reid, listening to JR the other day on TR, left me thinking CFC might benefit from a hard nosed LM such as him. Lucas might be even better.

We’ve effectively got 3 LM right now. Hearing talk on TRadio over last few days about CFC’s supposed lack of cap space is bit concerning.

 

[Sector 7G]

The players feedback has been good so far.

The Players all loved Teague until they didn't.