News Bradshaw quits the Lions

[Hollow Knight]

Bradshaw left the Lions because of the disgraceful way Voss treated him in trade week, plus the pathetic offer they put on the table, and the prospect of him not getting a run in the forward line with Fev and Brown there.

Nah.

 

[Lions4flag]

Let me walk you through the situation. You sold your future by....

1. Offloading Henderson. A 19yo, 197cm highly talented CHF.

2. Offloading a first round pick

3. Offloading a heap of other draft picks for 3 pieces of dead wood/rejects

4. Probably using your PSD or another draft pick on a injury-riddled slow midfielder who can't kick beyond 40m.

5. playing 2, 29-30 year KP forwards rather than developing a young KP forward

That is a huge huge "future sellout". Massive in fact. Will it work? We'll find out soon I guess. But the issue is if Voss doesn't pinch a flag before his aging stars retire, it will be a complete disaster, especially with the compromised drafts, and the very real prospect of GC17 leap-frogging Brisbane in record time. The pressure is on. Voss rolled the dice on this one.

Well according to experts the AFter the top 15 players the rest were all rubbish, so why wouldnt you go a premiereship.. The Gold Coast and West Sydney are gunna take the good players after this year's draft.. So in a way no1's gunna get good young talented players enyway..so why not go for a premiership then rebuild after we loose Black, Brown, Pwer and Fevola. Carltank done it for 5-6 years..

Answer me one question did you know who Henderson was before Carlton got him..Be honest

 

[Jimthegreat]

Cant see how Brisbane have sold away their future. They have traded a potential player for the best Full Forward in the league. Sounds like a good deal to me.

Carlton are the ones going backwards with this trade however their supporters try to shield this by saying "Brisbane have traded their future away".

Funny stuff

How have we gone backwards in the medium term? We got a decent kid plus pick 12. They got Fev, great aquisition, then lost Bradshaw, which dilutes that trade and possiblty hurts the inner fabric of the team, and also alot of B graders who aren't really better, maybe worse, than what they traded away.

Not only that, if Bradshaw wants to live in Victoria, which is sounding like he might be, we get him too. Life's tough.

 

[Close to 17]

Opinion, nothing more. Putting "obviously" at the start doesn't change that. Plenty of others see the merit in what he is doing.



Who has been disenfranchised? Bradshaw goes to Sydney a few days ago, gets three year, 500k offer. You really think his decision to leave the Lions is about feeling disenfranchised? If you knew anything about the history of Bradshaw's contract negotiations over his career, you'd think about things a little differently.

Who is to say that Carlton players don't feel disenfranchised about Fev? Sounds like they weren't consulted. But that would once again be just speculation.

You seriously believe Bradshaw walks if he wasn't put up for trade?

You seriously believe Bradshaw doesn't think his future is cloudy with Fev in the lineup?

You seriously believe Rischitelli thinks he is wanted and won't walk to the gold coast next year?

You seriously think your'e number 1 draft picks will be comfortable knowing they are expendable even before they are given a chance to show what they can do?

 

[Astro_]

How have we gone backwards in the medium term? We got a decent kid plus pick 12. They got Fev, great aquisition, then lost Bradshaw, which dilutes that trade and possiblty hurts the inner fabric of the team, and also alot of B graders who aren't really better, maybe worse, than what they traded away.

Not only that, if Bradshaw wants to live in Victoria, which is sounding like he might be, we get him too. Life's tough.

Will interesting to see how this pans out. There is nothing wrong with what Voss has done. He has taken a risk and it will either pay off or it wont. He wants a flag, isnt that what we all try to achieve? There is no one-set formula to win a flag and this is the path Brisbane have chosen.

As for Bradshaw, an injury-prone playing coming to the end of his career. Probably 2 years max left with those knees. Cant see him being a massive loss for Brisbane.

 

[Jimthegreat]

Opinion, nothing more. Putting "obviously" at the start doesn't change that. Plenty of others see the merit in what he is doing.



Who has been disenfranchised? Bradshaw goes to Sydney a few days ago, gets three year, 500k offer. You really think his decision to leave the Lions is about feeling disenfranchised? If you knew anything about the history of Bradshaw's contract negotiations over his career, you'd think about things a little differently.

Who is to say that Carlton players don't feel about Fev? Sounds like they weren't consulted. But that would once again be just speculation.

He's leaving because he's not happy, in other words, disenfranchised! Lose favourite sons like that and it can hurt the fabric of the club. Sheedy learned that lesson painfully years ago.

Time will tell on that one.

Once he tells Sydney he doesn't want to live there he'll fit nicely here. Hopefully anyway...lol!

 

[Hollow Knight]

You seriously believe Bradshaw walks if he wasn't put up for trade?

Mate... use your noodle. Seriously. Four small children, two of them in school, has just started a new business with Tim Notting. Do you think someone just uproots all that because he was offered for trade? C'mon, think.

500k a year for 3 years!

Was not going to get anything near that at Brisbane whether we had Fev or not. Bradshaw has always floated the possibility of moving elsewhere in every contract negotiation. His last negotiation 3 years ago was a major standoff with him touring Kardinia Park and everything. He has always secured his bottom line first, which he is very welcome to do so.

He's done so again here. More power to him. If we gave him a 3 year deal at his age, let alone one for half a million a year, I'd have been ropable.

So allow me to play the "do you seriously believe" game for a minute.

"Do you seriously believe, that factoring in his recent injuries, that Bradshaw is worth a 3 year deal worth half a million a year?".

 

[Close to 17]

Nice reply, very clear you agree with me if thats the best you can offer.

Trading away the best full forward in the AFL has brought about plently of "lol's" from the football community.

I was being dismissive because your club is irrelevant

Now go away and play with your St.Kilda and Melbourne mates

Bye bye now

 

[Jimthegreat]

Will interesting to see how this pans out. There is nothing wrong with what Voss has done. He has taken a risk and it will either pay off or it wont. He wants a flag, isnt that what we all try to achieve? There is no one-set formula to win a flag and this is the path Brisbane have chosen.

As for Bradshaw, an injury-prone playing coming to the end of his career. Probably 2 years max left with those knees. Cant see him being a massive loss for Brisbane.

Injury prone??? Check it out properly. He's kicked 133 goals in 2 years and missed 3 games in that time with a back-related hammy. So not even soft tissue. Guess that'll dilute the Fev trade quite a bit.

Vossy's had a crack but what he's picked up he isn't going to improve things too much other than Fev, then that was diluted quite a bit even if still in the positive slightly.

Didn't check that out too well did you.

 

[parrot]

Mate... use your noodle. Seriously. Four small children, two of them in schoo.....

lol. Sounds like you're in a desperate "spin mode". The reality is he'd still be in your forward line in 2010 if Fev wasn't there, and if he wasn't put on the trade table and treated like dirt by Voss. You know that and everyone else knows that. It's called Collateral Damage and Karma.

 

[Close to 17]

Injury prone??? Check it out properly. He's kicked 133 goals in 2 years and missed 3 games in that time with a back-related hammy. So not even soft tissue. Guess that'll dilute the Fev trade quite a bit.

Vossy's had a crack but what he's picked up he isn't going to improve things too much other than Fev, then that was diluted quite a bit even if still in the positive slightly.

Didn't check that out too well did you.

Visy has invested heavily in its Wodonga fibreboard facility recently

I'm sure they will have a nice desk position for Daniel in 5 years

 

[Hollow Knight]

lol. Sounds like you're in a desperate "spin mode". The reality is he'd still be in your forward line in 2010 if Fev wasn't there, and if he wasn't put on the trade table and treated like dirt by Voss. You know that and everyone else knows that. It's called Collateral Damage and Karma.

3 years, 1.5 million. If you guys offer him anything similar, it will be hilarious.



IF you ever study political science Parrotletic, you may stumble across something called "rational choice theory". When using it to explain how seemingly complex "human" situations unfold, you start with the first rule.... "follow the money".

It rarely fails.

 

[mpal6]

lol. Sounds like you're in a desperate "spin mode". The reality is he'd still be in your forward line in 2010 if Fev wasn't there, and if he wasn't put on the trade table and treated like dirt by Voss. You know that and everyone else knows that. It's called Collateral Damage and Karma.

 

[Astro_]

Injury prone??? Check it out properly. He's kicked 133 goals in 2 years and missed 3 games in that time with a back-related hammy. So not even soft tissue. Guess that'll dilute the Fev trade quite a bit.

Vossy's had a crack but what he's picked up he isn't going to improve things too much other than Fev, then that was diluted quite a bit even if still in the positive slightly.

Didn't check that out too well did you.

Cant see the point in Carlton picking Bradshaw. If Carlton are building for the future why select a player with 3 years maximum left in his career. Sounds like a top up trade to me, similar to what Essendon done under Sheedy.

 

[Silvagnis]

Cant see the point in Carlton picking Bradshaw. If Carlton are building for the future why select a player with 3 years maximum left in his career. Sounds like a top up trade to me, similar to what Essendon done under Sheedy.

*cough* Barry Hall.

Our window will be opening soon, so why wouldn't we pick up a 40 goal a year forward whilst Henderson and our other forwards develop?

Bradshaw is a better option than Fisher and Cloke.

Ratten plans to play Henderson forward.

Kreuzer, Hampson and Austin could easily be rotated through the forwardline with the mobile Waite and O'hAilpin suited to CHF.

Drafting Bradshaw is a no brainer.

3 years, 1.5 million. If you guys offer him anything similar, it will be hilarious.

Is it as funny as giving Fevola three years and a contract extension without any clauses regarding behaviour?

Offering Bradshaw three years is a necessary evil to get him to sign.

Carlton had to offer Chris Johnson a two year contract to get him to leave Melbourne.

Tacking another year onto their contract is what it take to get players in the PSD.

 

[Close to 17]

Cant see the point in Carlton picking Bradshaw. If Carlton are building for the future why select a player with 3 years maximum left in his career. Sounds like a top up trade to me, similar to what Essendon done under Sheedy.

Can't see the point?

I can't see the point why you are interested in something that doesn't have anything to do with Footscray?

Unless you are obsessed with Carlton because you can't beat us?

 

[libsug]

Cant see the point in Carlton picking Bradshaw. If Carlton are building for the future why select a player with 3 years maximum left in his career. Sounds like a top up trade to me, similar to what Essendon done under Sheedy.

Can't see the point?

I can't see the point why you are interested in something that doesn't have anything to do with Footscray?

Unless you are obsessed with Carlton because you can't beat us?

I think Astro is more interested in Essendon than the Doggies, hence the fascination.

 

[KnaveyBlue]

Bradshaw for free?

 

[parrot]

As the Fev Trade cost builds for the Lions, this situation reminds me a lot of the Freo situation a few years back. Freo had one decent year, and misread their premiership clock. They recruited Tarrant, and thought they'd be unstoppable with Pav and Tarrant in the forwardline. They also traded away a lot of other high picks for recycled's thinking they'd pinch a flag over the next few years. Exactly what Voss is doing now in fact. History repeating?

 

[mpal6]

As the Fev Trade cost builds for the Lions, this situation reminds me a lot of the Freo situation a few years back. Freo had one decent year, and misread their premiership clock. They recruited Tarrant, and thought they'd be unstoppable with Pav and Tarrant in the forwardline. They also traded away a lot of other high picks for recycled's thinking they'd pinch a flag over the next few years. Exactly what Voss is doing now in fact. History repeating?

Fev/Brown remind you off Taz/Pav ??

 

[Hollow Knight]

Most coaches are happy to fabricate the illusion that they are 2-3 years away from a flag at all times and thet the "window is opening". Keeps the rabble happy and guarantees job security.

Voss is actually going for it. Can't fault that.

Everyone on BigFooty thought we were stuffed in a few years time anyway, now they talk of us selling away our bright future. You'll have to forgive us Brisbane supporters if we find the groupthink hilarious.

 

[parrot]

Fev/Brown remind you off Taz/Pav ??

lol. Nice to see others thinking the same. Lots of similarities you'd agree. Same outcome?

 

[parrot]

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Voss is actually going for it. Can't fault that.....

Chris Connolly "went for it" as well. And look what happened. Voss is going down the lazy quick-fix top-up path. Might work, but could end in a Freo-type disaster.

 

[mpal6]

lol. Nice to see others thinking the same. Lots of similarities you'd agree. Same outcome?

I'll wait for 2010 to decide, but whose there to stop you. Roll on !!

 

[Hollow Knight]

Chris Connolly "went for it" as well. And look what happened. Voss is going down the lazy quick-fix top-up path. Might work, but could end in a Freo-type disaster.

So we go from a team that can't win a flag to a team that can't win a flag?

Battling parrot.