List Mgmt. Brady Rawlings | Head of Football Talent (Recruitment, LM & TPP)

[Zondor]

RF said himself the information was third hand and yet when your presented with a quote, from the Richmond List Manager saying the picks weren't on the table, you still want to argue they were.

So while we're at it find me a story posted about Brady that can be 100% proved true? Show me a story from a poster who actually spoke to Brady themselves. A story from a poster who was involved in the meeting while draft negotiations took place.

The Brady stories in this thread are at Caroline Wilson levels of sources, where people will corroborate anything to suit their narrative. Stern f*cking look

No. I asked you to highlight another story which was posted on this forum about Brady as being bullshit. You failed to do so. Be specific. Tell me which stories are bullshit. Don’t give me a sweeping statement. :stern look

Regarding RF08s story I simply highlighted that Blair Hartley’s comment was 10 and 11. Not 10 or 11. You even conceded that it could be taken that way. :stern look

 

[Zondor]

I think the most important part was that we brought in experience without diluting our draft hand….

LOL. I wonder who said that? :stern look

 

[Passmore]

Rick18 is the Know

One of about maybe 6 people who's opinions or information are worth paying any attention to.

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[The Nostradamus]

Pretty much spot on.

Brady said post season we will go after some experienced players ...but not at the cost of impacting our draft hand.

In the end the pursuit of Daniel in particular severely impacted our 2024 draft hand flexibility and in the end has now impacted our 2025 draft hand.

We have been in 'cover our ass' mode from the minute the Daniel trade was completed. The competition knew it and took advantage of our position (as they should).

When decisions are made on the fly - like paying 25 for Daniel - then there will always be a bigger price to pay - and we have just paid that bigger price in that our 24 and 25 draft hands have been compromised.

yep and that leads perfectly to my point that we need to be prepared to walk away from deals if they are not to our advantage

they were tunnel vision for a hbf first houston then daniel

we were so desperate for one that we nearly overpaid and used a f1 for houston and then folded for daniel with an overs pick 25 (even an f2 would've been over for daniel but at least could stomach that more)

i get wanting to move colby up the ground but not at the cost of paying overs for a 29 year old hbf, rather could have just invested more time in goater and hardeman

 

[Passmore]

Interesting way to refer to our 2020/21 midfield group but you do you

Thought it was our backline to be honest.

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[shinboner magic]

Only issue I have is trade pick 25 for Daniel.
Smells like a coaches call , just like CCJ a few years ago - at least Daniel is a proven player.

Should Brady be able to push back against the coaches wishes

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

LOL. I wonder who said that? :stern look

Gobble. Gobble. Gobble.

 

[Zondor]

yep and that leads perfectly to my point that we need to be prepared to walk away from deals if they are not to our advantage

they were tunnel vision for a hbf first houston then daniel

we were so desperate for one that we nearly overpaid and used a f1 for houston and then folded for daniel with an overs pick 25 (even an f2 would've been over for daniel but at least could stomach that more)

i get wanting to move colby up the ground but not at the cost of paying overs for a 29 year old hbf, rather could have just invested more time in goater and hardeman

So what does the recruitment of Daniel say about the recruitment of Fisher the year previous? What does it say about how we rate Goater, Bergman and Hardeman? Will Captain Luke still play half back? Nostradamus sort these Turkeys out and explain to them what’s what. :stern look

 

[zoomba23]

If Caleb Daniel can defend with accuracy and accountability we have won this Draft

That's not what we've brought him in to do. If he ends up one on one with basically anyone, he'll either be torched in the air or left in their dust

 

[Zondor]

Gobble. Gobble. Gobble.

:smirk look

 

[The Nostradamus]

So what does the recruitment of Daniel say about the recruitment of Fisher the year previous? What does it say about how we rate Goater, Bergman and Hardeman? Will Captain Luke still play half back? Nostradamus sort these Turkeys out and explain to them what’s what. :stern look

unfortunately what is done is done

no explaining will fix it

we now need to extract maximum value out of our 2 second rounders next year

 

[hilly]

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Mostly agree. Reckon he overdoes the positives i.e. I know we lost by 112 points but..

 

[DrZaius]

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May as well shut down this forum for discussion then

 

[DrZaius]

Mostly agree. Reckon he overdoes the positives i.e. I know we lost by 112 points but..

I think it’s mostly just the internal bias that colours his (fantastic) analysis naturally leaning more towards the hopeful/positive aspects rather than taking a purely objective view.

The problem is there are **** all alternatives we can turn to for actual good objective insight.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Sorry to burst the “Brady is shit bubble” but this is categorically untrue. Hartley states in his interview that “10 and 11 were never really on the table”, your third hand information is making shit up.

In my opinion, there is a distinction there, 10 & 11 weren’t on the table on draft night, because Richmond were committed to their draft strategy once the trade period was over and done with.

That doesn’t mean to say they weren’t offered up during trade week. Much like our pick 2, which was on the table up until a few nights before the draft when we settled on Finn.

 

[Passmore]

Mostly agree. Reckon he overdoes the positives i.e. I know we lost by 112 points but..

Just good to have some intelligent analysis that goes beyond "sack Rawling" or "Clarko's cooked".

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[FlyHigh18]

Let me preface this by saying this information has come to me 3rd hand. But if it’s true, it makes the F1 deal look even worse.

During the trade period Richmond offered 11 & one of their 2nd round picks for our F1 and Current 4th round pick. We held our ground because we thought there would be better offers….on draft night we went to Richmond and wanted the same deal they said no, because they were really keen to get those talls on their list.

By holding out thinking we were going to get a better deal we essentially cost ourselves a top 15 pick.

Rawlings ability to negotiate fair value is genuinely shit, and it’s costing us far too much in terms of opportunities lost at both the draft table and the trade table.

So many clubs were desperate to use their F1 to get back in. even for a pick up the mids 20s this year, and they were rejected.

And you want me to believe Richmond were handing out 10/11

We didn’t have the currency but luckily it didn’t matter bc the top 13 player we wanted slid.

Time to get over it

 

[Passmore]

May as well shut down this forum for discussion then

It's a good outlet to let off steam.

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[Masked Avenger]

The biggest mistake of the offseason was without a doubt the Daniel trade. It kicked off a series of events.

Not because of him as a player, but it was arguably a bigger overpay than the F1 trade.

He was in the VFL for parts of the season, was one of their highest paid players in 2025 on a back ended deal, and is 29 years old in July. He'd had a bust up with Bevo. They didn't want him in the VFL in 2025. It's an absolute shocker, I wont hear otherwise.

In no world is he worth a R2 pick, or even a F2. We paid overs and it was a salary dump to boot. The Dogs should have been paying us....


Had we landed Matt at our natural R2 then done the same trade for Jack as we did the other night, I think the narrative around would be far different. Downgrading our F1 to a F2 to bring in both KPP brothers at either end we rated around the top 10 in the same age range as our top mids , would have been considered good business by most of the industry considering all our other pieces. In fact, I reckon you would go as far as saying the AFL industry would have been pretty afraid of North adding FOS, M.Whitlock and J.Whitlock in 1 offseason to what we already have.

Instead we get Matt and 29 year old Daniel for 2-3 years of decent footy (maybe.) Daniel vs Jack Whitlock will be a something hard to stomach over the next 5-10 years when he's well retired.

It's something we will regret more than the F1 trade, I have no doubt.

Agree to disagree on the Daniel take.

Not sure you can say with any certainty now that the Daniel trade was the biggest mistake of the offseason.

The lad hasn't even run out on the park yet.

He's proven at the level and all this lament over missing out on an unproven second round draftee isn't backed up by the stats. It's a graveyard.

There's also no proof that MW would have been there at our original second round pick or that JW was even a target of ours.

If we want to see a repeat of the putrid last two games last year, the clear low point of the last 5 years, then let Daniel rot in the Dogs seconds and let's persist with the same old senior players who are barely at the level and who are clearly incapable of setting standards for our young guys.

Personally, I think Daniel will be a revelation down back for us with his experience, leadership, kicking and calmness.

He can footy.

Our defence won't know itself next year with the likes of Daniel and Logue back there.

 

[Gasometer]

That's not what we've brought him in to do. If he ends up one on one with basically anyone, he'll either be torched in the air or left in their dust

Can’t defend or kick/handball accurately?

Delist

 

[Gasometer]

That's not what we've brought him in to do. If he ends up one on one with basically anyone, he'll either be torched in the air or left in their dust

So what’s his role

It seems like few of us are thinking he’s a small defender?

 

[My Left Foote]

In my opinion, there is a distinction there, 10 & 11 weren’t on the table on draft night, because Richmond were committed to their draft strategy once the trade period was over and done with.

That doesn’t mean to say they weren’t offered up during trade week. Much like our pick 2, which was on the table up until a few nights before the draft when we settled on Finn.

I’ll agree to disagree regarding 10 & 11. As for pick 2 we decided early in the trade period to keep it, first hand information FWIW.

 

[zoomba23]

So what’s his role

It seems like few of us are thinking he’s a small defender?

He's a small attacker who plays in the backline. Will be given the distributor role that Fisher and McKercher had this year, and will hopefully be more consistently precise with his kicking than either of them. He could have all the intent in the world and still be a useless defender, thanks to his physical traits

 

[Gasometer]

He's a small attacker who plays in the backline. Will be given the distributor role that Fisher and McKercher had this year, and will hopefully be more consistently precise with his kicking than either of them. He could have all the intent in the world and still be a useless defender, thanks to his physical traits

So he’s a Defender that still needs to be accountable to his opponent and distribute the ball accurately by hand and foot?

I am totally misunderstanding your reply

 

[zoomba23]

So he’s a Defender that still needs to be accountable to his opponent and distribute the ball accurately by hand and foot?

I am totally misunderstanding your reply

This doesn't need to be overcomplicated lol. He's a defender in the same way that someone like Bailey Dale or Dayne Zorko is a defender. He plays there. He doesn't actually really do any defending and won't be expected to be accountable to a dangerous forward