Brownlow Medal 2009 (Part 1)

[AhSteveSteve27]

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I think the count will come down to whether or not Ablett can make up the lost ground on Swan from the games he missed. Also have a feeling that this is the year Goodes might not poll that well, been a fair bit of scrutiny over the fact he gets 'undeserved' votes and I think the umps might think long and hard before handing over the votes for him this year. I still expect him to be on between 10-15 atm anyway, but O'Keefe has also been excellent.

 

[Brownlow King]

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Black very good tonight. Couldn't pick a Standout from the Dogs. Harbrow, Johnson and Eagleton looked good without looking at stats. Boyd also pretty good in the contests.

Would give Black 2 or 1 probably.

I know that you are biased towards Black ( and so am I after he's been so good to me over the years ) but I watched the game very closely plus the last qtr again this morning and I give him 3 votes. He had his most poss's for 2 years, 4 frees for which is his most this year ( I love frees for in relation to Brownlow votes ). No Dogs stood out at all and I found it hard to give them votes. All of Black's touches were class as well.

My votes for weekend so far :

* Black 3
* Boyd 2
* Cooney 1

* Ablett 3
* Goodes 2 ( awesome game, really caught the eye )
* Corey 1

* Swan 3 ( great to see that others who may have watched gave 2 as I didn't see any )
* Didak 2
* Pendlebury 1

* Vince 3
* Mcleod 2
* Mcglynn 1

* Selwood 3
* Priddis 2
* Harvey 1

I have Black and Judd = leaders with Judd to play today. I thing's for sure, Black has Brown covered at Bris.

* Judd 27 - big watch today
* Black 27
* Ablett 26
* Selwood 25
* Goodes 24
* Hayes 24 - big watch today
* Swan 23
* Goddard 23 ( have been generous with him as a best case ) - ditto

 

[Brownlow King]

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What about Lions v Dogs?

3. Black
2. Boyd
1. Harbrow/Cooney

???

I'm with you exactly on this game ( Cooney 1 ) and the Geel game....gee it's great to see your votes now that you are thinking how the umps would vote.

 

[TimeFor11]

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Boyd got destroyed by Black doesn't deserve a vote.

 

[AG]

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I'm with you exactly on this game ( Cooney 1 ) and the Geel game....gee it's great to see your votes now that you are thinking how the umps would vote.

I thought you'd be happy.

I have the same votes as you except I gave Didak 3 and Swan 2.

 

[scooterselwood]

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3 - Davey
2/1 - N Jones, McLean or Bate could split these 3 votes IMO.

 

[asanque]

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3 Watson
2 Monfries
1 Dal Santo

3 Davey
2 Bate
1 Mclean

3 Murphy
2 Gibbs
1 Fevola

 

[Athomas]

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3 Watson
2 Monfries
1 Dal Santo

3 Davey
2 Bate
1 Mclean

3 Murphy
2 Gibbs
1 Fevola

Same but I gave the 1 to Jurrah (eye catching imo, even if it was in junk time.)

My leaderboard now:

L Montagna 24
G Ablett 23
D Swan 22
C Judd 22
L Hayes 19
A Didak 19
N Dal Santo 18
J Selwood 18
J Brown 18
A Goodes 17
S Black 16
B Goddard 16
B Gibbs 16


Ablett 3, Swan 2, Didak 3, Dal Santo 1, Goodes 2, Black 3, Gibbs 2 for the top vote getters.

Watson will be smahing Stanton imo now. If odds are better then $3 i'll be happy.

 

[AG]

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[Muppet McMahon]

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Boyd could win the medal. Word.

 

[TubbsFarquhar]

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25. Ablett

20. J. Selwood, Montagna, Judd, Swan

19. J. Brown, Dal Santo

18. Hayes, Black

17. Didak

16. Watson

15. Pendlebury, Goodes, M. Murphy

14. Goddard

13. Chapman, Gibbs

12. Bartel, Boyd, Vince

11. Higgins, Mitchell, Cooney

10. N. Riewoldt, Pavlich, Fevola

9. Tredrea, Thompson, Winderlich, A. Selwood, Harvey, Akermanis, Ar. Davey

8. Gilbee, Power, Hasleby, Sewell, Deledio

7. R. Shaw, S. Johnson, J. Mcveigh, Tippett, Porplyzia, O'Keefe, Ray, Davis, LeCras, Cousins, Kirk

6. Kerr, Doughty, Franklin, Rich, Tambling, Sandilands, Cross, Monfries

5. Koschitzke, Knights, T. Edwards, Griffen, Bruce, Lovett, Hodge, Cassisi, J. Riewoldt, Boak, Duffield, J. Bolton, Corey

4. Lockyer, Roughead, Johnstone, Jackson, Lloyd, Stanton, Brogan, Waite, Sylvia, A. Simpson, D. Cox, Ryder, Fraser, Pearce, B. Johnson, Dangerfield, K. Cornes, Harding, Gilbert, Jolly, C. Morton, Reilly, K. Simpson, Clark, Broughton, McLeod, Priddis

3. Wiggins, P. Burgoyne, C. Bolton, Adcock, Goodwin, Salopek, Bradshaw, Sherman, Hale, Giansiricusa, Dick, M. Morton, Byrnes, Prismall, A. Welsh, Rodan, McLean, Hahn, Davenport, Bock, Bateman, Schneider, Embley, Hurn, Goldstein, J. McDonald

2. Green, Lake, Patfull, Guerra, O’Brien, Chaplin, Richardson, Ziebell, Mundy, Mooney, S. Hill, Wells, Kelly, S. Tuck, Lewis, J. Hill, Varcoe, T. Cloke, Grimes, Moloney, R. Murphy, H. Shaw, S. Burgoyne, Ball, Wood, Brennan, Firrito

1. McIntosh, Fisher, D. Fletcher, L. Hansen, Gram, McPhee, Moss, McKay, Morris, Swallow, Clint Jones, Petrie, Van Berlo, O'Bree, Carr, Jurrah, McGrath, Milne, Cotchin, Ward, Armitage, Harris, Bradley, McGlynn, Bate

 

[DT ELITE]

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Nice work AUSSIE GUN
My only criticism is that it seems to sensible after all its the umpires giving the votes and we all know how obscure they can be.
Out of curiosity who do you have leading after round 11, looking at markets Ablett is dominate however he missed 2 games in this time and there is alot of value outside him if there was to be an upset.
Maybe some money can be made off the unpredictability of their votes?

 

[Athomas]

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Watson, ASelwood, ADavey. Look locks for thier team now imo.

 

[AG]

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Nice work AUSSIE GUN
My only criticism is that it seems to sensible after all its the umpires giving the votes and we all know how obscure they can be.
Out of curiosity who do you have leading after round 11, looking at markets Ablett is dominate however he missed 2 games in this time and there is alot of value outside him if there was to be an upset.
Maybe some money can be made off the unpredictability of their votes?

R11 Leaderboard. The St Kilda trio of Hayes, Dal Santo and Montagna could be different. Those three raffled the votes in a few games.

 

[Effes]

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Yeh I think Hayes is excellent value at $41 to lead at rd 11, although unlikely it's over the odds.

The other thing when looking at your counts...how many players do you have receiving votes?

I've found last year when I did it properly I gave votes to too few players...normally it is spread a little bit more.

The hard thing is working out who will receive the 1 vote...when the defender will actually get a vote or when some undeserving player receives one.

 

[AG]

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Yeah, I often look to give votes to the good players so, as you say, the 1 vote could always be a surprise choice from the umpires. After Round 20 I have 153 players with votes.

 

[Athomas]

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Yeah, I often look to give votes to the good players so, as you say, the 1 vote could always be a surprise choice from the umpires. After Round 20 I have 153 players with votes.

172 here.
30 players on 10+
4 players on 20+

If there was any criticism on tallies I've seen on this thread it would be that the leaders have too many votes imo.

 

[Effes]

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I've got 188

I have the Bulldogs having the biggest spread (18 players)

 

[AG]

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What has the spread been like in previous years?

 

[Athomas]

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I've got 188

I have the Bulldogs having the biggest spread (18 players)

18! I've got Port, Dogs and Saints on 14.

Would be interesting to know what previous years were like. I'd say 195ish.

 

[sblack]

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18! I've got Port, Dogs and Saints on 14.

Would be interesting to know what previous years were like. I'd say 195ish.

208 last year.

38 with 10+

18 with 15+

6 with 20+



203 in 2007.

28 with 10+

17 with 15+

8 with 20+

 

[scooterselwood]

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so would people agree on this?

Locks
Carlton - Chris Judd
Essendon - Jobe Watson
Melbourne - Aaron Davey
North Melb - Brent Harvey
Sydney - Adam Goodes
West Coast - Adam Selwood
West Dogs - Matthew Boyd

Probablys
Brisbane - Simon Black (Jonathan Brown)
Collingwood - Dane Swan (Alan Didak)
Fremantle - Matt Pavlich (Paul Haselby)
Geelong - Gary Ablett (Joel Selwood)
Hawthorn - Sam Mitchell (Brad Sewell)
Port Adelaide - Warren Tredrea (Kane Cornes)

50-50s
Adelaide - Scott Thompson, Bernie Vince
Richmond - Ben Cousins, Brett Deledio
St Kilda - Leigh Montagna, Nick Dal Santo, Lenny Hayes, Nick Riewoldt, Brendon Goddard

 

[Athomas]

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so would people agree on this?

Locks
Carlton - Chris Judd
Essendon - Jobe Watson
Melbourne - Aaron Davey
North Melb - Brent Harvey
Sydney - Adam Goodes
West Coast - Adam Selwood
West Dogs - Matthew Boyd

Probablys
Brisbane - Simon Black (Jonathan Brown)
Collingwood - Dane Swan (Alan Didak)
Fremantle - Matt Pavlich (Paul Haselby)
Geelong - Gary Ablett (Joel Selwood)
Hawthorn - Sam Mitchell (Brad Sewell)
Port Adelaide - Warren Tredrea (Kane Cornes)

50-50s
Adelaide - Scott Thompson, Bernie Vince
Richmond - Ben Cousins, Brett Deledio
St Kilda - Leigh Montagna, Nick Dal Santo, Lenny Hayes, Nick Riewoldt, Brendon Goddard

Personally, mine would be:

Locks
Carlton - Chris Judd
Essendon - Jobe Watson
Melbourne - Aaron Davey
North Melb - Brent Harvey
Sydney - Adam Goodes
Hawthorn - Sam Mitchell

Probablys
Brisbane - Simon Black (Jonathan Brown)
Collingwood - Dane Swan (Alan Didak)
Geelong - Gary Ablett (Joel Selwood)
Port Adelaide - Warren Tredrea (Kane Cornes, Danyle Pearce)
West Coast - Adam Selwood (Mark Le Cras)
West Dogs - Matthew Boyd (Daniel Cross/Adam Cooney/Shaun Higgins)

50-50s
Adelaide - Scott Thompson, Bernie Vince
Richmond - Ben Cousins, Brett Deledio
St Kilda - Leigh Montagna, Nick Dal Santo, Lenny Hayes, Brendon Goddard
Fremantle - Matthew Pavlich, Aaron Sandilands, Paul Haselby


Pretty similar.

 

[AhSteveSteve27]

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As of round 20, have had 195 players poll.
26 players with 10 or more
9 players with 15 or more
3 players with 20 or more.

 

[OZZA]

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What about Lions v Dogs?

3. Black
2. Boyd
1. Harbrow/Cooney

???

I'd be more than happy to be wrong - but I think many have overrated Boyd's chances and his vote count. He has been our best player this year - no doubt - but has always been our best when we've lost - and not necessarily as often when we have won. I wouldn't have had him in our top 3 on Saturday.

Votes would possibly go:
3. Harbrow
2. Black
1. any of Cooney, Johnson, Murphy, Aker (match winning goal).