Buckley V Crawford

[el toado]

Especially given the quality difference between the Hawthorn and Collingwood TOTC's



Crawf would be Vice Captain of the Pies one.

I will take that as a joke, please be a joke

 

[robertg22]

Crawford won a premiership & I'm very happy for him, but that's about all he has on Bucks.
Remember it was Crawf who was replaced as captain by none other than Vandenberg.... who retired before him anyway!

 

[hawks_time]

Crawford won a premiership & I'm very happy for him, but that's about all he has on Bucks.
Remember it was Crawf who was replaced as captain by none other than Vandenberg.... who retired before him anyway!

What does it matter who is successor is? I don't think Liberal supporters would like Howards successor?

 

[TimmehJC"]

Buckley, but no need to mention that crawf is on the interchange in the hawthorn team of the century either. like it's some sort of dishonour.

He's not even on the interchange, he isn't in the team, Definatly should have been, but isn't. How do Hawthorn supporters not know this?

 

[tazhawk]

I think crawf will take his premiership medallion and the chance to go back to back over the plaudits of a few Big Footy posters though.

You make a very good point.

 

[Gozz]

Buckley was better.

 

[TimmehJC"]

Crawford won a premiership & I'm very happy for him, but that's about all he has on Bucks.
Remember it was Crawf who was replaced as captain by none other than Vandenberg.... who retired before him anyway!

Thats just a ridiculous comment. Crawf stepped aside from the captaincy. The club decided to go with Vanders because the next group of leaders weren't quite ready. Vanders did a great job as captain despite not being the most talented footballer. Buckley - skills better, Crawf - running machine. At the end of the day Buckley was the master of getting 30+ possesions in losing teams. Sad, but true. There were many footballers better than Micheal Tuck, but he has 7 premierships and any AFL player would give up everything to finish with that. Also, does Crawf score points for durability?? He has managed to still be playing.

 

[MadMaxx]

I will take that as a joke, please be a joke

Ill stand by the first line, but the second one was mischief ;-)

For reference.

Pies
B: Harold Rumney - Jack Regan - Syd Coventry
HB: Billy Picken - Albert Collier - Nathan Buckley
C: Thorold Merrett - Bob Rose - Darren Millane
HF: Des Fothergill - Murray Weideman - Dick Lee
F: Phonse Kyne - Gordon Coventry - Peter Daicos
Foll: Len Thompson - Des Tuddenham - Harry Collier
Int: Tony Shaw - Wayne Richardson - Marcus Whelan - Gavin Brown

Hawks
B Gary Ayres - Kelvin Moore - Albert Mills
HB Col Austen - Chris Mew - Peter Knights
C Robert Dipierdomenico - Jim Bohan - Brendan Edwards
HF Graham Arthur (Cap) - Dermott Brereton - Gary Buckenara
F Jason Dunstall - Peter Hudson - John Platten
R Don Scott - Michael Tuck - Leigh Matthews
INTERCHANGE: Chris Langford, Ian Law, Roy Simmonds, Paul Salmon


I'd back the Hawks there head-to-head. Would not be able to contain that forward line.



* Note that earlier posters are wrong.. Crawf isnt on the bench.

 

[el toado]

That is a mighty forward line but obviously debating over fantasy teams that span decades is stupid. A lot of our players came from our glory days which was the 20's & 30's and i dont think many people here would be able to remember those days (unfortunatly for pie fans).

Although you probably havent heard that much about those players, the fact that syd coventry is in the back pocket sums up how good a team it was. He was a brownlow medalist, dual b&f winner and captain of our four premierships in a row and just snuck onto the field!

By the way, the fact that Buckley made the team of the century after just seven years at the club and before his brownlow medal shows how brilliant he was

 

[Jethro!]

Simon Tragena was better than them both!

 

[kirbatron]

Crawf was a dynamo in his day but Buckley for mine.

 

[hellfire]

Buckley.

But there is no shame in that for Crawf.

 

[tin can sam]

Buckley was the better player. Crawf had the more satisfying career.

perfect.

nothing else can be said

 

[footyfreak]

Buckley is a better footballer.
Crawford is a better bloke.

know them both personally do you?

 

[AtomicCounty]

round 16 1999 hawthorn 92 v collingwood 124

Crawford 15 kicks 9 handballs 0 goals

Buckley 35 kicks 8 handballs 3 goals

hardly best brownlow season ever right?

http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/games/1999/041019990718.html

they went heads up that day and bucks torched him. both champs for their respective teams. bucks infront.

 

[TimmehJC"]

round 16 1999 hawthorn 92 v collingwood 124

Crawford 15 kicks 9 handballs 0 goals

Buckley 35 kicks 8 handballs 3 goals

hardly best brownlow season ever right?

http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/games/1999/041019990718.html

they went heads up that day and bucks torched him. both champs for their respective teams. bucks infront.

One bloody game, you're kidding me right?

 

[Fastback]

ask Nathan.

 

[OniAu]

buckley for me

this doesnt mean crawf is miles behind. its weird how crawf was never considered with the big 3 in voss hird and bucks.

i think the only reason you can give as to why he wasnt placed in that group is he didnt seem to win a game off his own boot and turn a match like those 3 did. he like harvey had the ability to run all day and that was their strength imo.

 

[Jatz]

buckley

 

[doppleganger]

On the field Buckley shades Crawf but not by a big margin.

Only relevant point when comparing players is their ability and performance on the field......and even most hawks supporters rank bucks as the better footballer

Crawf gets a few points for playing his career at one club plus inspiring the Hawks to win a Premiership.

nothing to do with who the better player is......using ur logic does it mean that Rob Harvey becomes a lessor player because he couldn't "inspire" the saints to the flag?

Most of the Hawk players were quoted as saying " we did it for Crawf "

good on em.....

 

[pacman]

Buckley, but he isn't the smartest cookie.
Left the Lions to play in finals. hahaha

 

[erical]

Buckley would be top 5 in the last 20 years .Crawford would maybe come in early 20's.

 

[Xtreme]

Buckley, but he isn't the smartest cookie.
Left the Lions to play in finals. hahaha

Egg on face moment

Of course i'm going to say Crawf in this battle, but Bucks has his good points.... just a shame that Brisbane ended his dream at the last hurdle two years in a row

 

[erical]

Buckley, but he isn't the smartest cookie.
Left the Lions to play in finals. hahaha

Obviously you aren't even in the cookie jar.
Bucks left the Dismal Bears not the Lions and he was always destined for Collingwood as he wanted to be in the Footy State not the Sunshine State from the word go.I believe it was part of the original deal?

 

[erical]

Simon Tragena was better than them both!

Simon Tregenza the Crow?
I think he won a Magarey for Port Maggies didn't he?Don't quote me however.