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Traded Callum Coleman-Jones [Traded to North Melbourne with 42, 47 and a future 4th for Tarrant, 40 and a future 2nd]
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SSwans2011
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If Tarrant wants to go and the contract offer is big enough to get you band 5 compo, sure, but Richmond would probably rather keep the Chol compo, so it makes sense for all parties to help get the CCJ deal over the line. I don't think CCJ has as much value at the trade table as some Richmond fans think, but he has comfortably more value than Tarrant.
I think something like Tarrant + 38 for CCJ + 44 and a swap of 2022 third rounders is fair for both parties, probably marginally favouring North if anything.
That is closer to the mark but I'd possibly still prefer the fa route. Even if no compo it will effect other fa action. A trade really depends on what FA deals the two clubs have. It also isnt great for Taz who would prefer certainty.
Btw, I suspect band 5 is likely but maybe that's just wishful thinking.
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Yeah, no idea personally. Isaac Smith got Hawthorn band 5, but hard to tell whether Richmond would be offering Tarrant as much. Geelong at least knew Smith was likely to stay on the park, so wouldn't surprise me if he got a slightly bigger contract than whatever is on offer for Tarrant.
Who knows though? Maybe Richmond did make a reasonable offer if they think he helps give them one final crack at a flag.
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The difference is with pick 20 all 3 parties need to agree, Richmond have no say in the PSD option.
CCJ by himself should be worth somewhere between 20 & 38.
Either next year's second round pick or maybe 38 plus pick swaps: 20-26 or similar. This is a draft where quality fairly even between 20 & 26 so not a huge deal but does help you get a specific type of player.
If Tarrant is going to the Tigers, doubt its for huge money and at his age would probably return bugger all back to NM in free agency compo. However, due to no-one knowing how the system works it could knock Richmond's Chol compo down a whole tier, ie slide down a full draft round.
So, probably in Richmond's interests to trade for Tarrant and no fuss either way for North.
I seeing Tarrant just being included in the CCJ deal to make it just for pick 38.
Saves North adding a 20-26 pick upgrade and costs them a SFA compo selection.
Saves Tigers a possible Chol compo downgrade and costs them a 20-26 upgrade.
I think both clubs are more likely to find a suitable deal rather than chest-puffing and bluster and bullshit.
Either next year's second round pick or maybe 38 plus pick swaps: 20-26 or similar. This is a draft where quality fairly even between 20 & 26 so not a huge deal but does help you get a specific type of player.
If Tarrant is going to the Tigers, doubt its for huge money and at his age would probably return bugger all back to NM in free agency compo. However, due to no-one knowing how the system works it could knock Richmond's Chol compo down a whole tier, ie slide down a full draft round.
So, probably in Richmond's interests to trade for Tarrant and no fuss either way for North.
I seeing Tarrant just being included in the CCJ deal to make it just for pick 38.
Saves North adding a 20-26 pick upgrade and costs them a SFA compo selection.
Saves Tigers a possible Chol compo downgrade and costs them a 20-26 upgrade.
I think both clubs are more likely to find a suitable deal rather than chest-puffing and bluster and bullshit.
I couldn't imagine we were offering Tarrant much considering we won't offer more than a two year deal and modest amount for CJ. We are very careful with our salary cap and I think everyone has learned form the Collingwood debacle. My educated guess is that Tarrant would not be receiving anywhere near as much as what Smith got. I think the move would be purely fueled by the opportunity of winning a flag before he retires (a bit like Deledio did 
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How does that work when Tarrant is an unrestricted free agent ? Anyhow I am sure pick #38 will get the deal done on its own.
Yeah, no. You want North to do Richmond a favour by including Taz in a trade for CCJ but don't want to give up anything in return. We'll be happy to let Taz go as a FA and not get him entangled in potentially drawn out negotiations over CCJ. His manager should be advising him against this happening too.
Also North aren't involving 20 in any trade for CCJ. There is no need to.
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Depends. If we can get something in compo for Tarrant (as Hawks did for Isaac Smith) we may be reluctant to do that. If not, then sure. Throw in Dogs' first pick which you will probably want and there are a lot of moving parts here.
Yep. It's fantasyland stuff.
Richmond supporters thinking you're going to get anything significant for CCJ are dreaming. It's not going to happen.
NM will offer a token pick, pick 38 at best, if NM are feeling generous. If Richmond decline, NM go to CCJ and say we offered Richmond pick 38, but Richmond declined. We need to use picks 1 and 20 on youngsters to help build around you. Are you OK if we just acquire you via the PSD? We guarantee we'll select you on your 4 year deal.
NM will offer a token pick, pick 38 at best, if NM are feeling generous. If Richmond decline, NM go to CCJ and say we offered Richmond pick 38, but Richmond declined. We need to use picks 1 and 20 on youngsters to help build around you. Are you OK if we just acquire you via the PSD? We guarantee we'll select you on your 4 year deal.
Your first sentence begs the question.I couldn't imagine we were offering Tarrant much considering we won't offer more than a two year deal for a modest amount. We are very careful with our salary cap and I think everyone has learned form the Collingwood debacle. My educated guess is that Tarrant would not be receiving anywhere near as much as what Smith got. I think the move would be purely fueled by the opportunity of winning a flag before he retires (a bit like Deledio did
The days of screwing over other clubs and having a trade 'win' is long gone. Clubs have long memories. If you screw over a club in one trade, they are unlikely to work with you the next time. Only supporters are delusional enough to believe they can get a high pick for an good to average player or conversely, give up nothing to get one. Both clubs will be eager to come up with a win-win solution.
Thanks for picking that up. I've edited it now.
Clubs will always work with any club that they think can benefit their own regardless of any past unfair trades
Richmond are most likely ain't anything below pick 38 in terms of trade capital for CCJ (I doubt I doubt North are silly enough to do any future pick swapping either)
Tarrant to Richmond is a free hit to Richmond that has no bearing on the CCJ trade.
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Perhaps.
I’m sure there has been discussion between the clubs as well.
I’m sure North would be happy to give 38 for CCJ. I think we will come to a deal and not have to wait for Tarrant to become a DFA.
HumanMeatball
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will probably be 38 and Tarrant for ccj
HumanMeatball
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I’m telling you now you aren’t getting anything compo wiser for Tarrant. North will find this out prior to the trade period anyway thankfully
HumanMeatball
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I bet you it won’t
I just don't see 38 being enough on its own for CCJ
Making Tarrant part of the trade could make it all agreed and signed off quickly and easily.
I see it as a way of avoiding CCJ getting entangled into a drawn-out negotiation.
What's your alternative? Offer just 38 or Pre-season draft? Have your new recruit sweating and stressing and questioning how much your club values him?
This could also leave Tarrant in limbo as Richmond have to try and work out whether signing him as a free agent affects the Chol compo and that whole decision could get dragged out.
