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Traded Callum Coleman-Jones [Traded to North Melbourne with 42, 47 and a future 4th for Tarrant, 40 and a future 2nd]
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Depends. Could do 38 with something going back to North, or package 38 for two lower picks, 1 of which they end up using instead of 38. They could use Tarrant to get a discount on the trade which is better than him walking for nothing.
Correct.
Seems many Richmond posters appear to miss this in their own bubble of self obsession. Regardless of Tarrant compo, including Tarrant in the CCJ is favourable for Richmond. Hence, North will want a reason to agree to it.
What’s a reason? A more favourable transaction for North in getting CCJ.
Tarrant & Pick 38 for CCJ, has no more benefit to North, then Pick 38 for CCJ - It only benefits Richmond.
Doesn't strike me as the Richmond type of player.
Not necessarily.
I would like to keep both transactions separate, do the deal for CCJ (whatever that may be)
Work out a trade for Tarrant (say our 55 for your 69)
If we aren't getting compo for Taz and we don't have other FA stuff planned, that should be fine. You don't actually have 55, or any picks between 44 and 80 which isn't helpful, but something could be worked out. The Taz trade should really happen first, or at least before the FA period expires, so he doesn't lose that option if things get messy.
The complication that may nix it is that we have both Atley and Dumont who could also go as FA's and we may want to bring others in. In this case we are potentially losing out on compensation for minimal gain.
I understand the "We believe 38 is a very fair offer for Coleman-Jones. Take it or we get him for free in the pre-season draft" approach.
But adding a "and we're happier getting a zero compensation for Tarrant than trading him for a token pick to possibly assist you guys" is just being pricks for the sake of it.
Surely much better to keep the trade relationship pleasant. Tigers have previously offloaded Butler, Markov, etc for token picks to other clubs. Doubt we'd be inclined to do similar for North in the future if you took this tack.
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The trade relationship between the two clubs will remain pleasant if you accept pick 38 or a future 3rd rounder for CCJ.
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If North doesn’t get any compo for Tarrant then surely it won’t offset any compo for Chol?
This is true and hopefully that's the case because if it is, why would one club try and help out another.
Who knows?
I wouldn't put anything past the AFL.
I could see them saying no compo for Tarrant, but receiving him is a benefit to Richmond so dilute our Chol compo.
If Richmond decides to trade for Tarrant instead of FA, what about CJ and Pick 28 for Tarrant and Pick 20. North keep their 3rd pick so can pick another player and get CJ essentially for an 8 pick downgrade in the 2nd round.
Obviously this assumes Tarrant doesn't have any compo value. If he does it adds another complication.
I do. It does. Picking up Taz as a FA means no Chol compo. Multiple links to this already in the thread.
No it doesn't. Everything stated says "may" not "will". Its all dependent on both contracts.
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What about Tarrant + 2022 R1 (1-4)> 7 + 27?
'Compensation is also impacted by the ‘net total points’ of free agents lost and gained during a trade period.'
Even if you haven't read the explainers, think about it. The idea that we would lose Taz and get no compo but Richmond would lose Chol and pick up Taz and get compo is ridiculous.
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Our board all season were dead against last, I personally didn't care or more to the point wanted it. It means absolutely nothing, well until draft time and then you have full control and can manipulate outcomes.
Last beats ninth any given year.
So yeah, well said
There would be (or would have been) points allocated for losing Tarrant via FA, when added to Atley and Dumont it might change the band compo, for the Roos (who could be bottom 4 again) then those band differences aren't much, so end of 1st rnd is not that much different to a pick after your 2nd and so on, obviously the differences are magnified at the pointy end. As you said, other FA might come in which dilutes things further.
The 55 pick was just an example, we might get a later pick if Caddy goes, if not then an exchange of late picks next you do the job too.
A rumour has been doing the rounds over the weekend that North are interested in Bigoa Nyuon also and that if a trade is required for Tarrant, he may form part of it.
Whether North are interested separately is another question.
Whether North are interested separately is another question.
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Makes sense. North have a hole in their defence and he could be guaranteed games. They need to support Mackay and their stocks are rather thin after him. They seem to be blindsided by Tarrants decision, so they will need to find cover.
Biggie hasn’t really shown anything due to COVID impacting the VFL, but I’ve got no doubt North admire our recruiting and development and would back him in to give him games in 2022.
Keep Biggy, they can have Garth ( who is a great kid btw, real solid citizen around the club, very popular )
Just because the public only found out about it on Saturday, doesn't mean the club was blindsided. Robbie was heavily rumored to be considering leaving last year after the cluster**** hub situation with Shaw & the sacked assistants. He's also 33 in January who has had injury/health issues, it's been pretty obvious that his is a role we have to replace in the short-term.
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Didn't Noble say he thought Tarrant would stay just two months ago ? If that was the case then this must be of come as some sort of surprise.
He did say he thought he would stay in a press conference - What would you expect him to say?
"Blindsided" isn't a term I would personally use for a 33 year old that has decided to use his FA rights.
