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Owies was a Cat B having come across from another code. Didn't come through our NGA.
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Where? Must have missed it.
Current information, suggests he is a 3rd tall defender, where we have ample option and more pressing needs
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Players are drafted too young, there is no doubt about that, many sit on the lists for a couple of years before they can at minimum hold their own at AFL level. TBH if the draft age was lifted to 20 it would be far more practical. Early draft picks would be more valuable as drafting would be...
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Players are drafted too young, there is no doubt about that, many sit on the lists for a couple of years before they can at minimum hold their own at AFL level. TBH if the draft age was lifted to 20 it would be far more practical. Early draft picks would be more valuable as drafting would be...
Not what I asked for and you know it.
It's OK to not want to bring him in, but there's no need to be deliberately obtuse.
Now you are just being obtuse. To what end I am unsure. Any semi informed draft watcher and list management student is totally aware that a Cat B rookie is a free hit and has no relevance on other list numbers. Akuei has natural physical traits not found in many or any of our list. The fact that he can offer effective rucking capability, even in the under age comp is in itself a massive bonus. He does not have to become a ruckman or even a KPD to be an effective player.
Show me where I have been obtuse? I detailed a response as to why I would look elsewhere which even included players who would be better options for the role
My stance on our needs has never changed
Another calling me obtuse, interesting
Let's do this another way, given you are an advocate for Josh Cripps, if there was 1 spot left on out list, would you take Cripos or Akeui?
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Name one player competing for his spot as a free hit on our Cat B rookie list. You said it yourself, there are other free hits.
Had nothing to do with players already on our list.
You have just edited your question, but my response wouldn't change. No need for the obtuse comment, my understanding is very clear on the subject
I will detail it further. No downside at all with Arkuei the player, but the downside is with the imbalance of our list which lacks talls.
We now have an extra spot on our list with Jones departing, so adding the likes of someone like Ballenden, Schlensog, via SSP, is also a free hit, one that I believe addresses our needs better
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Jonesy retiring gives us another list spot, probably to be filled in SSP period.
Akuei is an NGA prospect attached to Carlton (only) and if not taken in the National Draft is eligible to be taken by us a s a Cat B Rookie, along with Owies, without any effect on the main list or Cat A Rookie list.
Akuei is a free hit and has shown sufficient to warrant the investment of another player on minimum chips.
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No edited posts, no edited questions.
I thought it was pretty clear I was talking about Cat B rookies. "Free hit" wasn't clear enough?
Yet we could add a number of spine players via the SSP
And I detailed the response that answered your question, covering free hit, player type and added list needs.
Think we are both clear as to our preferences, best we move on I guess
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I'll ask again - where?
You have not mentioned one other free hit available to us as a Cat B rookie.
We can add 1. Unless we leave O’Brien and Cottrell in the wilderness.
Your boy Ballenden, northern academy boy is gone in to oblivion. Not up to it.
Schlensog, he of the purple hair, I like the profile and would have thought he warranted a spot, however he has no takers. After a “dominant” period in defence in WAFL, was moved forward later in the season for indifferent at best results. Suggest he has some flaws precluding 18 clubs from picking him up. Perhaps reckons he is a forward and better suited in defence? Off field issues? Potentially wiser and definitely better informed recruiters have thus far overlooked him.
What about Cat-B eligible for other clubs who aren't picked up? Can we Cat-B them?
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Not easy to find Cat B rookies. Aside from Owies, we've tried that American basketballer and a heap of Gaelic footballers and a hurler. It's well worth giving some hope to someone from our NGA Academy. Might inspire others that qualify for that path.
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Players are drafted too young, there is no doubt about that, many sit on the lists for a couple of years before they can at minimum hold their own at AFL level. TBH if the draft age was lifted to 20 it would be far more practical. Early draft picks would be more valuable as drafting would be...
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"Not particularly relevant, he's a likely free hit as a Cat B rookie.
What's the downside?"
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Official Club Stuff - Carlton Academy - Next Gen & Father/Son/Daughter Discussion
Players are drafted too young, there is no doubt about that, many sit on the lists for a couple of years before they can at minimum hold their own at AFL level. TBH if the draft age was lifted to 20 it would be far more practical. Early draft picks would be more valuable as drafting would be...
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"It actually is relevant, there are others, spine players, that would also be free hits.
It's not as if he is a highly touted talent and despite the athleticism, it's about his football ability.
Unless we were cutting one of the likes of Parks, Marchbank, Kemp, Gov, all of which could play his role, I would be looking at our actual needs"
My response above covers, covers downside, not the player but in regards to list management/needs, free hits (DFAs can be added to the SSP, i believe?). I also listed a number of players that could cover his role.
Where I think you are getting caught up, is with "Name a player that is a NGA that plays that role". Really makes no difference what the cost is, we have ample resources.
You then asked a number of times for the names that could play his role, but I had already listed them, see above in yellow
In Summary, you are happy to have a free hit 3rd tall, where I prefer a free hit spine player. If that isn't correct, let me know, if it is, let's move on
That's a fair call, but as long as it doesn't hinder satisfying our needs
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