Welcome to East Germany Carlton and Collingwood - who finishes higher in 2023? Collingwood Ofcourse

[South of the Yarra]

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[rye]

carlton scored less on expected score last week against north and have been shown up badly against adelaide

obvious to all and sundry collingwood are the far better side

 

[South of the Yarra]

I keep telling you all that this Carlton team cannot win big games when the pressure and intensity is high. Point proven yet again. They are simply not up to it.

 

[JyeDye]

And just like that they all go back into hiding, until they beat 16th placed West Coast in 2 weeks.

Compared to the 4 sprinklers I've already seen come in here tonight? Where were you the last couple mate?

 

[Corn Cobbers]

Back to the drawing board after that drubbing

 

[JyeDye]

carlton scored less on expected score last week against north and have been shown up badly against adelaide

obvious to all and sundry collingwood are the far better side

lol, we should have won that by 40.

 

[CarnTheScray]

Compared to the 4 sprinklers I've already seen come in here tonight? Where were you the last couple mate?

When I log into this site I don’t immediately think “heck, better go see what the Carlton supporters are up to in that thread!”

 

[Milanista28]

Bad night but Carlton seem heavier and slower than other midfield groups. All the talk about Essendon needing bigger mids which has been true the blues need some smaller/faster mids.

 

[Arr0w]

When I log into this site I don’t immediately think “*, better go see what the Carlton supporters are up to in that thread!”

Minnow

 

[beerbandit]

Is this still seriously a discussion?

Carlton lucky to make 8

 

[CarnTheScray]

Minnow

Cheers

 

[JyeDye]

Bad night but Carlton seem heavier and slower than other midfield groups. All the talk about Essendon needing bigger mids which has been true the blues need some smaller/faster mids.

Agreed. With Docherty and Zilliams out all teams have to do is shut down Saad and we barely have any pace.

 

[PonsfordMagpie]

Carlton's another step closer to finishing in their rightful spot. 9th!

 

[Elixuh]

Carlton’s issue is they have 8 or so really good players but then the list completely falls away. That and a gameplan which doesn’t serve the skill level of the players and relies on drive from guys like Saad and curnow and McKay kicking a winning score. Need a more even contribution, like Collingwood get.

 

[Elixuh]

Minnow

Ouchies

 

[Corn Cobbers]

Fadge has got the calculator out, working up all sorts of angles

 

[PieLebo87]

Carlton’s issue is they have 8 or so really good players but then the list completely falls away. That and a gameplan which doesn’t serve the skill level of the players and relies on drive from guys like Saad and curnow and McKay kicking a winning score. Need a more even contribution, like Collingwood get.

We’ve been trying to tell them this for 250 pages but it just doesn’t seem to sink in.

Last year it was because Pittonet was missing, they get him back and still lose, then it becomes about Walsh being missing… they get him back and still lose. Now it’s because Docherty and O’Brien are missing. It’s a never ending cycle…

 

[Elixuh]

We’ve been trying to tell them this for 250 pages but it just doesn’t seem to sink in.

Last year it was because Pittonet was missing, they get him back and still lose, then it becomes about Walsh being missing… they get him back and still lose. Now it’s because Docherty and O’Brien are missing. It’s a never ending cycle…

Yeah a lot are in a bit of denial about their list and style of play. O’Brien is not a good player.

 

[beerbandit]

Agreed. With Docherty and Zilliams out all teams have to do is shut down Saad and we barely have any pace.

Williams?? I doubt you can count him as best 22.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Expected loss but disappointed with the embarrassing efforts.

I think it's clear that the Blues bottom 6 Silvagni, Fisher, Plowman, Ed Curnow, Honey and Dekoning (As solo ruck) are still absolute tripe. Pies are no chance of the flag but neither are the Blues with those spuds running around. Been the same story for years, unfortunately Voss as a 1st year coach seemed to go pretty conservative with the list and thought he'd give some of them another go, I wouldn't give half of them another game if I was in charge.

 

[doppleganger]

Bagger fans big on % being a good indicator of real standing yeah?

 

[JyeDye]

Yeah a lot are in a bit of denial about their list and style of play. O’Brien is not a good player.

The playstyle of slowly dump kicking in forward isn't great, but with the talent there I understand it. The issue is that should at least allow us to setup strongly defensively as there is limited pace on the game, yet we get easily carved up and give up easy inside 50 targets.

 

[PieLebo87]

Expected loss but disappointed with the embarrassing efforts.

Why is it an expected loss against a side that has finished bottom 4 in the last 3 years? These are the games you should be winning to propel you a couple of spots higher on the ladder.

I think it's clear that the Blues bottom 6 Silvagni, Fisher, Plowman, Ed Curnow, Honey and Dekoning (As solo ruck) are still absolute tripe. Pies are no chance of the flag but neither are the Blues with those spuds running around. Been the same story for years, unfortunately Voss as a 1st year coach seemed to go pretty conservative with the list and thought he'd give some of them another go, I wouldn't give half of them another game if I was in charge.

Finally some acknowledgment after 250 pages! We can now lock this damned thread!

EDIT: apologies crows finished 5th last in 2022.

 

[beerbandit]

Expected loss but disappointed with the embarrassing efforts.

I think it's clear that the Blues bottom 6 Silvagni, Fisher, Plowman, Ed Curnow, Honey and Dekoning (As solo ruck) are still absolute tripe. Pies are no chance of the flag but neither are the Blues with those spuds running around. Been the same story for years, unfortunately Voss as a 1st year coach seemed to go pretty conservative with the list and thought he'd give some of them another go, I wouldn't give half of them another game if I was in charge.

Why are Pies no chance of the flag exactly?

 

[PieLebo87]

Why are Pies no chance of the flag exactly?

Just because Carlton isn’t. Just because.