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1995 and 1987 premierships were NOT tarnished for any breaches.
Any premiership prior to 1987 didn't matter coz there was no salary cap.
Accept the fact 1995 was won courtesy to under the table, shady deals.

You guys are on par with Essendon for being cheats. Everyone in the competition knows that.

When having to earn it, you’ve gone to water for the best part of 20 years.
 
Accept the fact 1995 was won courtesy to under the table, shady deals.

You guys are on par with Essendon for being cheats. Everyone in the competition knows that.

When having to earn it, you’ve gone to water for the best part of 20 years.
We got charged for years between 1997 - 2001. no premiership years involved.
 

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Ah - the massive Cap fine confirmed paper bag payments occurred.
So the previous rumours was actually fact.
Your statement about tarnished premierships wasn't a fact though, you haven' shown any proof except saying you heard a rumour.
 
Your statement about tarnished premierships wasn't a fact though, you haven' shown any proof except saying you heard a rumour.
I’m very capable of interpreting the facts and any sensible person would come to the same conclusion.

Nobody is buying the BS that your cheating was done for other reasons other then winning flags.
 
I’m very capable of interpreting the facts and any sensible person would come to the same conclusion.

Nobody is buying the BS that your cheating was done for other reasons other then winning flags.
I'm not buying your bullshit either, show some proof or STFU.
 

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Accept the fact 1995 was won courtesy to under the table, shady deals.

You guys are on par with Essendon for being cheats. Everyone in the competition knows that.

When having to earn it, you’ve gone to water for the best part of 20 years.
Correct - it’s no coincidence that Cheat Champs have failed to win a flag since being forced to play by the rules.
 
Please do share. Even if just rumours, share the content, I’m curious.
I think we are all curious about everyone's RUMOURS.
I'm still trying to find the 1995 salary cap breach report from the AFL but for some reason , it's either been removed from history , or someone hacked into the AFL history books and deleted the breach. Apparently it happened. Can anyone please send me the link ???
 
Are you seriously suggesting the rumours of paper bag payments, that went on for a decade, and finally revealed as true ( and penalized accordingly), are not proof of cheating during the period of those flag years.


rumour
/ˈruːmə/
noun

  1. a currently circulating story or report of uncertain or doubtful truth
 
Go back over the thread - the proof is there.
You look silly turning a blind eye to the evidence that everyone accepts.
It might be best to end your posting on this topic to save face.
Does that mean you can't find any proof?
 
I think we are all curious about everyone's RUMOURS.
I'm still trying to find the 1995 salary cap breach report from the AFL but for some reason , it's either been removed from history , or someone hacked into the AFL history books and deleted the breach. Apparently it happened. Can anyone please send me the link ???
You’ve questioned the integrity of 1990. Share the rumours, don’t deflect.
 

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