top 4 is a big call. but they are a completely different team to the carlton side of the past few years. the improvements have been huge. during the first quarter of our game against them last week, i couldnt believe it was the same team we beat by 15 goals last year. richmond arent far behind the blues, but richmond have put in a few shockers this year, and thats probably the difference. correct me if im wrong, but i think carlton havent been blown away too often this year like richmond have a couple of times, and percentage probably shows that. but i think both sides will play finals next year thoughMy smokey for the top 4 next year