Banter Who will be better in 2025, Carlton or Collingwood? Part 3

[carlton_99]

But you do have an issue dealing with KPD's who can't perform in finals.

what?

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

But you do have an issue dealing with KPD's who can't perform in finals.

Huh?

 

[Elixuh]

Maybe Choccie should take a few more pointers from old Crippler. Don't see him crying like a baby on the floor after trying to charge a bloke

Hopefully big crippa earns another individual award this awards season to go with the AA. It must suck not being able to go to Bali, having to wait around for Brownlow night.

Walshy I love the way you go about it. I have a bit of a philosophical question for you - do you think last night we saw the return of crazy vossy? or has crazy vossy always been there deep down?

 

[Bunk Moreland]

 

[South of the Yarra]

The Bombers have won a flag this Millenium. Carlton have not.

 

[Chief]

The Bombers have won a flag this Millenium. Carlton have not.

Getting all Kamala Harris here.

 

[carlton_99]

The Bombers have won a flag this Millenium. Carlton have not.

No they haven't

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Hopefully big crippa earns another individual award this awards season to go with the AA. It must suck not being able to go to Bali, having to wait around for Brownlow night.

Walshy I love the way you go about it. I have a bit of a philosophical question for you - do you think last night we saw the return of crazy vossy? or has crazy vossy always been there deep down?

TBH I think Vossy and the match committee just said we're f****d so lets try something a bit different with all the TDK sub action and all that business.

The Kennedy substitution and Docherty playing stuff was truly bizarre but I didn't really care at that point... Said from weeks ago that we were totally screwed and just been looking forward to the trade and draft period since.

 

[bungalow_bill]

No they haven't

2001 and on is the new millennium, so close.

 

[Elixuh]

TBH I think Vossy and the match committee just said we're f****d so lets try something a bit different with all the TDK sub action and all that business.

The Kennedy substitution and Docherty playing stuff was truly bizarre but I didn't really care at that point... Said from weeks ago that we were totally screwed and just been looking forward to the trade and draft period since.

Playing doc was the craziest decision imo. 30 year old, 6 months off a third (?) knee reco with no match fitness. I don’t know how they thought that was going to go.

At least cincotta would have tagged someone.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Playing doc was the craziest decision imo. 30 year old, 6 months off a third (?) knee reco with no match fitness. I don’t know how they thought that was going to go.

At least cincotta would have tagged someone.

He's been quite conservative as a coach so far at the Blues, was a bit off norm.

I think there will be some big list moves this off season though which from memory is where he got the nickname no?

 

[Elixuh]

He's been quite conservative as a coach so far at the Blues, was a bit off norm.

I think there will be some big list moves this off season though which from memory is where he got the nickname no?

Time for crazy vossy to go to work. Likely targets include Clayton Oliver, Taryn Thomas and Paddy McCartin.

 

[rye]

how long before carlton 'win' their next spoon?

how many spoons can they collect before they earn a legitimate top level flag?

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Time for crazy vossy to go to work. Likely targets include Clayton Oliver, Taryn Thomas and Paddy McCartin.

I believe its been Will Hayward, Nick Haynes, Dan Houston, Christian Petracca mentioned so far... Looking forward to seeing Fat Slug Clarence rolling around in our 2s next year on 1.5 mil a year

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

how long before carlton 'win' their next spoon?

how many spoons can they collect before they earn a legitimate top level flag?

If Nicky goes down for the Pies next season they've got the Spoon sewn up

 

[Mr Meow]

No they haven't

It took you 7 minutes to figure that out.

 

[Irish BlueBagger]

Collingwood at least came back. Reckon you'll be enjoying some time near the bottom.

We'll still win a flag before you do though. How many premierships has your club won again btw?

 

[Irish BlueBagger]

If i offered you 2 wins against the pies, finish behind us only on percentage and then the pies go on to get absolutely humiliated in the final ? Would you take it ?
Every day of the week would be the answer, Carlton fans just don't have the testicular fortitude to admit to it.

It wasn't a humiliation at all. It was a brave showing by an injury plaqued and ridden team. We fought it out well and went down fighting in the end.

 

[Irish BlueBagger]

The AFL era is when the competition was actually called the AFL: 1990 onwards. If your club has won multiple flags in time frame they have some kind of claim to being a relevant/successful side of the modern era. Yes, even if they were terrible for most of it like Richmond.

Hawthorn 5
Geelong 4
West Coast 4
Collingwood 3
Brisbane 3
Richmond 3
Sydney 2
Essendon 2
North Melbourne 2
Adelaide 2

Then there are Tier 2 sides, who have saluted once:

Melbourne
Port Adelaide
Carlton
Western Bulldogs

It was 1990 in name only in reality the modern era starts in 1987. The year the comp went national imo.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

It wasn't a humiliation at all. It was a brave showing by an injury plaqued and ridden team. We fought it out well and went down fighting in the end.

Selections were all on Voss though- why leave the one bloke who could have shut Zorko down out? It was embarrassing from the match committee, yeah have a song and dance about playing Docherty 5% fit at best…then let’s compound it leaving Moir out who was your best small forward! Don’t blame the players much but it was a humiliation for Voss and co in selection. The game was over as soon as the teams were named.

 

[Irish BlueBagger]

Selections were all on Voss though- why leave the one bloke who could have shut Zorko down out? It was embarrassing from the match committee, yeah have a song and dance about playing Docherty 5% fit at best…then let’s compound it leaving Moir out who was your best small forward! Don’t blame the players much but it was a humiliation for Voss and co in selection. The game was over as soon as the teams were named.

I like Vossy as a person but as a coach he's poor tactically imo. The whole backroom team around him needs freshening up, but i think he deserves at least one more year before considering a change of coaches.

The selection for that game was all wrong he should have stuck with the younger players.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

I like Vossy as a person but as a coach he's poor tactically imo. The whole backroom team around him needs freshening up, but i think he deserves at least one more year before considering a change of coaches.

The selection for that game was all wrong he should have stuck with the younger players.

Give him another year but under no circumstances will an extension be granted till after the finals next year if you make it. I’m far from convinced on this so called great midfield I keep hearing about and at the end of the day midfields win premierships nowadays. Cripps is a star but it’s been 2 years plus since Walsh was net his best and it falls away drastically after that especially when Voss refuses to play Cerra in there

 

[Irish BlueBagger]

Give him another year but under no circumstances will an extension be granted till after the finals next year if you make it. I’m far from convinced on this so called great midfield I keep hearing about and at the end of the day midfields win premierships nowadays. Cripps is a star but it’s been 2 years plus since Walsh was net his best and it falls away drastically after that especially when Voss refuses to play Cerra in there

Our midfield could do with more pace for sure, but the main issues are a lack of a second key position defender and a lack of craft in our small forwards.

I think Vossys contract runs out at the end of 2026, but if 2025 is another poor year then there will be grumblings for change.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Our midfield could do with more pace for sure, but the main issues are a lack of a second key position defender and a lack of craft in our small forwards.

I think Vossys contract runs out at the end of 2026, but if 2025 is another poor year then there will be grumblings for change.

Small forward is a huge issue Moir looks good though horrid decision to not play him in the final. Midfield is horribly skinny- Hewitt’s back can’t cope being a full time mid, Cerra who knows what Voss is doing there he ain’t a half back lol. You need to hit the draft with genuine onballers

 

[South of the Yarra]

No they haven't

Even better news. So neither of you have won one this Millennium. Incredible news to wake up to.
Flags this Millennium
Collingwood - 2
Carlton- 0
Essendon- 0

My week keeps getting better.