Banter Who will be Better in 2025, Collingwood or Carlton? Part 4

[Pistol Night]

Some of these are Fadge levels of brain rot

Yeah true. That Dogs side were good enough to make 3 prelims in a row. Far better

 

[Worm4]

Well two of them missed half season through injury, Bobby Hill admittedly had a unusually bad year and Shultz couldn't fit into the team structure for multiple reasons mostly we had zero cohesion all year. It's literally a one off year let's see if owies ever scores more than any of these guys again? Besides Elliot cause he will retire soon. When we are in full swing/inform like the previous 2 years he wouldn't make the starting team. Do you honestly believe he does if we had 2023 form and if so who would he replace and why?

You agreed with Fadge that Owies would be ranked 30-35th player on collingwoods list, and then revert back to 2023 premiership team. It's the classic fallback for most of you pie posters. Can only go off current form, but I could name a minimum of 15 players worse than Owies on Collingwoods 2024 list which would debunk any of yours, or Fadges theories on that ranking

 

[Robertio]

To be fair he probably would be we we got a lot of small forward. Jamie Elliot's, Shultz, McCreery, Bobby hill ECT he wouldn't get in above any of them, he'd be as useful as a Ben Crocker for us.

I stopped reading at Shultz.

 

[Worm4]

I stopped reading at Shultz.

I stopped reading at "to be fair"

 

[adammania9]

I stopped reading at "to be fair"

Doesn't seem accurate since you responded to the full post

 

[Worm4]

Doesn't seem accurate since you responded to the full post

Not many accuracies around this neck of the woods

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Players ranked 15 to 20 for Carlton would be 30 to 35 for Collingwood.

So to add them to Collingwood's list, it would make it 0.5% better, but by Carlton trading them out, it makes your list 7.5% worse.

Remember, they were good enough to play 47 of a possible 48 games at Carlton in 2024.

So just to confirm...As of 2024 which of these players are better than Owies and Kennedy?

1- Will Parker
2- Josh Carmichael
3- Harry Demattia
4- Nathan Kreuger
5- Ed Allan
6- Fin Macrae
7- Tew Jiath
8- Iliro Smit
9- Oscar Steene
10- Jakob Ryan
11- Reef McInnes
12- Jack Bytel
13- Lachlan Sullivan
14- Josh Eyre
15- Aiden Begg
16- Ash Johnson
17- Ned Long
18- Wil Parker
19- Mason Cox
20- Charlie Dean
21- Oleg Markov
22- Joe Richards
23- Billy Frampton

 

[Chief]

Well two of them missed half season through injury

They are injury prone?

 

[black is White]

They are injury prone?

McCreery isn't Injury prone just had a really bad and unlucky year and Elliot you would argue is but is 3 times the player owies will ever be

 

[Fadge]

So just to confirm...As of 2024 which of these players are better than Owies and Kennedy?

1- Will Parker
2- Josh Carmichael
3- Harry Demattia
4- Nathan Kreuger
5- Ed Allan
6- Fin Macrae
7- Tew Jiath
8- Iliro Smit
9- Oscar Steene
10- Jakob Ryan
11- Reef McInnes
12- Jack Bytel
13- Lachlan Sullivan
14- Josh Eyre
15- Aiden Begg
16- Ash Johnson
17- Ned Long
18- Wil Parker
19- Mason Cox
20- Charlie Dean
21- Oleg Markov
22- Joe Richards
23- Billy Frampton

Half of those players either are, have been, or will be better players than Owies and Kennedy.

Have been:
Cox
Markov
Frampton

Will be:
Macrae
DeMattia
Allen
Jiath
Ryan
Mcinnes
Sullivan
Long
Richards
Dean

I'd keep all of them on Collingwood's list before picking up Kennedy and Owies. (Noting Richards is no longer on our list)

 

[Fadge]

Yeah true. That Dogs side were good enough to make 3 prelims in a row. Far better

In the strongest era we have seen in my time watching AFL/VFL

 

[Worm4]

Half of those players either are, have been, or will be better players than Owies and Kennedy.

Have been:
Cox
Markov
Frampton

Will be:
Macrae
DeMattia
Allen
Jiath
Ryan
Mcinnes
Sullivan
Long
Richards
Dean

I'd keep all of them on Collingwood's list before picking up Kennedy and Owies. (Noting Richards is no longer on our list)

So you believe that if all of those players were fit and available and on the same list together, they would all get selected in the senior team before Kennedy and Owies.
Let's just clarify again for the record, you think Carlton have made a mistake by taking both Owies and Kennedy off their list. Which of those players you mentioned are kicking 30 goals in 2023 and finishing top 10 in your best and fairest. Given your are taking the piss, I'm surprised who haven't mentioned any of your stars from the women's program as well. Well done

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Half of those players either are, have been, or will be better players than Owies and Kennedy.

Have been:
Cox
Markov
Frampton

Will be:
Macrae
DeMattia
Allen
Jiath
Ryan
Mcinnes
Sullivan
Long
Richards
Dean

I'd keep all of them on Collingwood's list before picking up Kennedy and Owies. (Noting Richards is no longer on our list)

Fadge there's delusion then there's this. Not a single one of those players is better than Owies or Kennedy
Get off the Ayahuasca and have a lay down.

30-35 on Collingwoods depth chart

 

[Arr0w]

Half of those players either are, have been, or will be better players than Owies and Kennedy.

Have been:
Cox
Markov
Frampton

Will be:
Macrae
DeMattia
Allen
Jiath
Ryan
Mcinnes
Sullivan
Long
Richards
Dean

I'd keep all of them on Collingwood's list before picking up Kennedy and Owies. (Noting Richards is no longer on our list)

Only half ? Has someone hacked your account?

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

In reality Kennedy would be fringe 22 next year for both sides. Arguably ahead of some duds like Mitchell and Perryman but we'll give them the benefit of the doubt.

So far ahead of a spud like Macrae though it's not even funny.

 

[Bale Dup]

Probably thinks their 1st pick this year will be a better player than ours
Sad really

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[Robertio]

Half of those players either are, have been, or will be better players than Owies and Kennedy.

Have been:
Cox
Markov
Frampton

Will be:
Macrae
DeMattia
Allen
Jiath
Ryan
Mcinnes
Sullivan
Long
Richards
Dean

I'd keep all of them on Collingwood's list before picking up Kennedy and Owies. (Noting Richards is no longer on our list)

I'll have what you're having

 

[Robertio]

Probably thinks their 1st pick this year will be a better player than ours
Sad really

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Yep just wait for it, a pick in the 50's will be better than whoever we pick at 3.

 

[blueiris]

Could of been against Carlton too if they didn't shit the bed like a 93yo quadriplegic the week before

Could have been GWS vs Carlton GF if the umpires actually knew the rules

 

[Pistol Night]

Could have been GWS vs Carlton GF if the umpires actually knew the rules

Are you saying umpires cost Carlton? Priceless

 

[blueiris]

Are you saying umpires cost Carlton? Priceless

No they cost GWS

 

[kreuze_missile]

Have been:

"Have been".

Great summary of the Collingwood list.

Looks more like a pension fund than a list that can finish any higher than 14th.

 

[Scritchyscroony]

Yep just wait for it, a pick in the 50's will be better than whoever we pick at 3.

2017 draft:
Carlton: pick 3: Paddy Dow.
Collingwood pick 39: Nathan Murphy.
2021 draft:
Carlton pick 27: Jesse Motlop
Collingwood pick 52 Harvey Harrison

Carlton is more than capable of screwing up another pick 3. Does the experience of history mean nothing to you?

 

[carlton_99]

2017 draft:
Carlton: pick 3: Paddy Dow.
Collingwood pick 39: Nathan Murphy.
2021 draft:
Carlton pick 27: Jesse Motlop
Collingwood pick 52 Harvey Harrison

Carlton is more than capable of screwing up another pick 3. Does the experience of history mean nothing to you?

What does Motlop have to do with Pick 3?

 

[Robertio]

2017 draft:
Carlton: pick 3: Paddy Dow.
Collingwood pick 39: Nathan Murphy.
2021 draft:
Carlton pick 27: Jesse Motlop
Collingwood pick 52 Harvey Harrison

Carlton is more than capable of screwing up another pick 3. Does the experience of history mean nothing to you?

You don't remember the 2013 draft mate, we can play this game all day.