Banter Carlton is better in 2024. Who will be better in 2025? Carlton or Collingwood? Part 3

[Robertio]

Kennedy, Touhy, Grigg.
What's the lesson there for Carlton draftees who want to win a flag?

It's really funny how none of you want to stick to the thread title.

 

[Robertio]

This is a thread for supporters of big boy AFL clubs on 16 flags. You don't have the necessary credentials to be posting in here sorry.
Out you go. Best of luck with the rebuild.

You all get behind that pussycat guy and want to change the rules again, bunch of primmadonna's.

 

[Corn Cobbers]

The thread title isn't clear, 'better' is subjective. However, the criteria in the original post defines better as finishing higher. While the terminology doesn't exactly match official regulations, I don't think there's any reasonable argument that OP meant something different to what is common knowledge that the AFL ladder determines team rankings (and the way rankings are adjusted after the finals series).



You can if 'better' is defined by finishing higher, unless you seriously think you could argue that could have meant something other than the way the AFL determines team rankings at the end of the season...?

*I don't know where the first 2024 version post is, but unless the original criteria was changed, here it is:

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And rather than argue back and forth using made up definitions, there's this handy resource that can settle the debate:

AFL Regulations


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I'm all for the banter, but some serious time has been spent seemingly in a genuine attempt to argue 'better' as being measured by the head to head results... comes across as quite stupid or embarrassingly incapable of accepting (probable but not yet final) defeat.

Wosh did not start this thread and that is not the original post (refers to 2023... it's 2024!!)

Think the original thread was started by a Collingwood supporter who no longer posts, and I think the OP just referred to being "better"

Unless someone has a copy of the real OP we'll never know

 

[Robertio]

Wosh did not start this thread and that is not the original post (refers to 2023... it's 2024!!)

Think the thread was started by a Collingwood supporter who no longer posts

Unless someone has a copy of the real OP we'll never know

Just go back to see how excited you all got when you were higher than Carlton for a week, the answer is there.

 

[Scritchyscroony]

You all get behind that pussycat guy and want to change the rules again, bunch of primmadonna's.

Who is pussycat guy? What are the "rules" you talk of?

 

[Corn Cobbers]

Just go back to see how excited you all got when you were higher than Carlton for a week, the answer is there.

Nope, the answer is in the original OP, got a copy?

 

[Robertio]

Nope, the answer is in the original OP, got a copy?

The answer is there alright and you know it.

 

[Corn Cobbers]

The answer is there alright and you know it.

Nope the answer has been buried and history changed with a poorly edited OP, we're not stupid

 

[Worm4]

The answer is there alright and you know it.

Collingwood get their chance next year when they cop a bottom 6 draw and we don't. Won't see me complaining EVERY SINGLE DAY, about how soft the Pies fixture will be. It is what it is

 

[Robertio]

Collingwood get their chance next year when they cop a bottom 6 draw and we don't. Won't see me complaining EVERY SINGLE DAY, about how soft the Pies fixture will be. It is what it is

They won the premiership and expect a draw the same as ours lol.

 

[Madblue]

Collingwood get their chance next year when they cop a bottom 6 draw and we don't. Won't see me complaining EVERY SINGLE DAY, about how soft the Pies fixture will be. It is what it is

With a Dads Army list, no depth, no draft picks, not making the 8 and Tassie coming in I dont think anyone has to worry about Collingwood contending again for many years

 

[Fadge]

With a Dads Army list, no depth, no draft picks, not making the 8 and Tassie coming in I dont think anyone has to worry about Collingwood contending again for many years

A cut and paste from November 2021.

Whoops!

 

[Madblue]

A cut and paste from November 2021.

Whoops!

Nothing like 2021 but If that helps you then good for you

 

[Scritchyscroony]

It's really funny how none of you want to stick to the thread title.

It's a banter thread.
And:
Collingwood 2; Carlton 0.
What more is there to discuss?

 

[Robertio]

It's a banter thread.
And:
Collingwood 2; Carlton 0.
What more is there to discuss?

Who's higher on the ladder, the thing that really counts.

 

[Fadge]

Nothing like 2021 but If that helps you then good for you

In hindsight you might be correct, but go back and review what was being said about Collingwood leading into the 2022 season.

Powerhouse clubs find a way to rejuvenate quickly.

 

[Robertio]

In hindsight you might be correct, but go back and review what was being said about Collingwood leading into the 2022 season.

Powerhouse clubs find a way to rejuvenate quickly.

Going to be hard without a first round pick and Tassie coming in, this is a bad time to be down the lower half of the ladder.

 

[Worm4]

In hindsight you might be correct, but go back and review what was being said about Collingwood leading into the 2022 season.

Powerhouse clubs find a way to rejuvenate quickly.

That was when your list was average age of 25. Now it's the oldest list in the comp at around 28 av.
Do Collingwood even have a list manager ?

 

[Corn Cobbers]

Going to be hard without a first round pick and Tassie coming in, this is a bad time to be down the lower half of the ladder.

We only need 2 or 3 good players to win a flag, we'll be fine, culture

 

[Worm4]

Who's higher on the ladder, the thing that really counts.

I believe shares in Flight centre have increased recently with 106k enquiries about trips to Bali for the month of september

 

[adammania9]

We lost last weeks game Pies never won it.

Still on this one haha. Can we get an explanation this time as to how Collingwood didn't win the game despite having more points at full-time?

 

[Scritchyscroony]

Going to be hard without a first round pick and Tassie coming in, this is a bad time to be down the lower half of the ladder.

Carlton have the 6th oldest list. They are struggling to make the 8 and can't beat a cooked Collingwood.
Still totally reliant on an ageing, battered Cripps and the coach clearly has no tactical nous.
When, (not if), Carlton find themselves in the same old boat next year..i.e... ( struggling to make the 8 and choking in big games)..Maybe then it might dawn on Carlton folk that their next rebuild is going to be smack bang in the middle of the Tassie compromised drafts.
Ouch.

 

[Robertio]

Still on this one haha. Can we get an explanation this time as to how Collingwood didn't win the game despite having more points at full-time?

Moral victory for us mate.

 

[adammania9]

Didn't the Pies just win a flag despite burning like 7 first round picks in 10 years? Competing is easy when your club has the talent ID to find bargain premiership players. Don't need to blow 7.5 million on Zach Williams and Jack Martin

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[Robertio]

Carlton have the 6th oldest list. They are struggling to make the 8 and can't beat a cooked Collingwood.
Still totally reliant on an ageing, battered Cripps and the coach clearly has no tactical nous.
When, (not if), Carlton find themselves in the same old boat next year..i.e... ( struggling to make the 8 and choking in big games)..Maybe then it might dawn on Carlton folk that their next rebuild is going to be smack bang in the middle of the Tassie compromised drafts.
Ouch.

Curnow, Mckay and Weitering still have 5 years, Walsh Cerra and both Hollands plenty. Tassie won't be a bother for us after having to go through Gold Coast and Gws coming in and we have a few very good F/S's coming up.