Carlton's midfield

[PieLebo87]

Has anyone actually examined Carlton's potential midfield? Not bad ay?

All thats missing is a developed quality ruckman. (Other then Ackland)

Judd, Stevens, Murphy, Scotland, Carrazzo and Gibbs. That is definitely some quality. Will be interesting to see how these guys go in '08, if injury-free, but that is highly unlikely, especially since at least 2 of them have been out for majority of '07.

 

[JKCeagle]

No doubt one of the most promising midfields going into '08, but Judd is the only proven, undoubted A-grade player in that list.

Murphy, Gibbs and Carrazzo are all too young & inexperienced to be top-shelf just yet, and Scotland and Stevens are good players but would never be mentioned in the top 15 mids in the league (especially Scotland).

But yes, if they stay together and develop over the next couple of years, they could be a real force by about 2010 (Kreuzer's ability as a ruckman is obviously pivotal to this).

 

[Marc Shmurf 3]

No doubt one of the most promising midfields going into '08, but Judd is the only proven, undoubted A-grade player in that list.

Murphy, Gibbs and Carrazzo are all too young & inexperienced to be top-shelf just yet, and Scotland and Stevens are good players but would never be mentioned in the top 15 mids in the league (especially Scotland).

But yes, if they stay together and develop over the next couple of years, they could be a real force by about 2010 (Kreuzer's ability as a ruckman is obviously pivotal to this).

couldnt agree with you more.

Obviously Murphy and Gibbs are likely to become stars but ATM your summery is very true

 

[Smell The Glove]

Stevens is without doubt elite A grade, he just hasnt had the support at Carlton. For a number of years he had had to deal with closer attention that most other mids of his quality have had to- only really Koutoufides has taken attention away from him at Carlton. With Judd in the mix, Stevens will go close to being as damaging as he was in his final few years at Port Adelaide.

Scotland certainly isnt elite (and I think a tad overrated by Carlton supporters), Carrazzo is capable, but a step down from A grade. Murphy is definitely A grade on potential, possibly A grade on performance in 2008. He is really something special. Gibbs is relatively unproven, wait until 2009 beofre passing judgement.

 

[That's deliberate]

Currently in the bottom 4 midfields in the competition.....Potentially, well every club has potential...

 

[Thrawn]

If people are going to mention Carrazzo then they should not ignore Kade Simpson.

He is quicker by foot and is a better user of the ball. And he kicks more goals, making him perhaps a more dangerous midfielder arguably.

 

[Kruze]

OP forgot to mention Kade Simpson, Andrew Walker and Richard Hadlee as well as the the up and coming Ryan Jackson and somewhat forggoten Adam Bentick (who has Libba like tackle stats) All will all be part of the midfield rotation in '08 along with the guys mentioned -Judd, Stevens, Murphy, Scotland, Carrazzo and Gibbs

Will soon be a midfield force to be reckoned with.

 

[thatswhatimtalkinabout]

Thing which impressed me was the excellent doctors and physicians here in Melbourne found a neck injury to Nick Stevens.

I was struggling to find the little oompaloompa's neck under that fat head.

 

[thatswhatimtalkinabout]

OP forgot to mention Kade Simpson, Andrew Walker and Richard Hadlee as well as the the up and coming Ryan Jackson and somewhat forggoten Adam Bentick (who has Libba like tackle stats) All will all be part of the midfield rotation in '08 along with the guys mentioned -Judd, Stevens, Murphy, Scotland, Carrazzo and Gibbs

Will soon be a midfield force to be reckoned with.

Only if you are bowling to Kim Hughes.

 

[Roughie]

Good midfield....A shame about the rest of the field though

 

[Gouldy]

Thing which impressed me was the excellent doctors and physicians here in Melbourne found a neck injury to Nick Stevens.

I was struggling to find the little oompaloompa's neck under that fat head.

right and Jaryd Roughhead, josh thurgood and joel smith are absoloute stunners arent they? testa di scopata!

 

[thatswhatimtalkinabout]

right and Jaryd Roughhead, josh thurgood and joel smith are absoloute stunners arent they? testa di scopata!

Medical tests have proven at least 2 out of 3 of those players also have necks.

Stop worrying about their appearance will ya?

 

[Catsmaninamerica]

Almost as good as Ablett, Bartel, Corey, Ling (all australians) Kelly, Selwood, Ottens...

 

[Monkeyboy]

It will be the development of Hampson and Grigg that will help lead this midfield to a place seldom seem before.

The Hammer Hampson (with Krueuzer and Aisake as back up supports)
Grigg, Judd, Simpson, Walker, Hadley, Carruzzo, Scotland, Stevens,
Murphy and Gibbs.

As Parrot may say......that's some serious top shelf talent!

 

[good2bblue]

No, I think Scotland does a very dependable job. He reminds me of Andrew McKay in the way he goes about his footy. I reckon he's very dependable.

 

[bradrowe#32]

It's a shame they don't have a decent ruckman, any good defenders and only one quality forward.

12-16th.

 

[MadDawg]

No, I think Scotland does a very dependable job. He reminds me of Andrew McKay in the way he goes about his footy. I reckon he's very dependable.

what he has in common with McKay is that he doesnt play in the midfield he plays spare Rod in defence

 

[smithos]

talk them up when they win a game

 

[greennick]

Stevens is without doubt elite A grade, he just hasnt had the support at Carlton. For a number of years he had had to deal with closer attention that most other mids of his quality have had to- only really Koutoufides has taken attention away from him at Carlton. With Judd in the mix, Stevens will go close to being as damaging as he was in his final few years at Port Adelaide.

Scotland certainly isnt elite (and I think a tad overrated by Carlton supporters), Carrazzo is capable, but a step down from A grade. Murphy is definitely A grade on potential, possibly A grade on performance in 2008. He is really something special. Gibbs is relatively unproven, wait until 2009 beofre passing judgement.

Were you stoned when you wrote that?

Stevens is not elite A grade! If he is, then every team has a number of "elite A grade" midfielders, which they don't.

Elite A grade midfielders are people like Kerr, Judd, Bell, Black, Harvey, Bartel, etc. Stevens is not in that company and you are kidding yourself if you think he is. Neither is Murphy.

You do realise, not everyone can be A grade?

I find it interesting what you are saying about Stevens being tagged, before he only really had Kouta to take the attention away. Now Judd is there he can take further attention too. Yes, but Kouta isn't there anymore, so if you have two players to tag (for example as West Coast often does with Selwood and Stenglein tagging) that will be Judd and Stevens. It is the guys like Murphy who will be benefiting, your third and fourth midfielders.

 

[blues4flag]

If people are going to mention Carrazzo then they should not ignore Kade Simpson.

He is quicker by foot and is a better user of the ball. And he kicks more goals, making him perhaps a more dangerous midfielder arguably.

I'd rather 20 touches from Simpson than 30 from Carrazzo.

 

[Qsaint]

All thats missing is a developed quality ruckman. (Other then Ackland)

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Quality and Ackland are not words I'd use together.

 

[doppleganger]

OP forgot to mention Andrew Walker

When is this guy going to do anything?

Will he ever become anything more than an athlete who tries to tag players?

 

[Monkeyboy]

When is this guy going to do anything?

Will he ever become anything more than an athlete who tries to tag players?

I can see Walker bursting into the top 20 players in the comp next year. A very impressive player!

 

[BrownDog#20]

Were you stoned when you wrote that?

Stevens is not elite A grade! If he is, then every team has a number of "elite A grade" midfielders, which they don't.

Elite A grade midfielders are people like Kerr, Judd, Bell, Black, Harvey, Bartel, etc. Stevens is not in that company and you are kidding yourself if you think he is. Neither is Murphy.

You do realise, not everyone can be A grade?

I find it interesting what you are saying about Stevens being tagged, before he only really had Kouta to take the attention away. Now Judd is there he can take further attention too. Yes, but Kouta isn't there anymore, so if you have two players to tag (for example as West Coast often does with Selwood and Stenglein tagging) that will be Judd and Stevens. It is the guys like Murphy who will be benefiting, your third and fourth midfielders.

Rather stevens than Bell any day of the week

 

[Bluebear]

Only if you are bowling to Kim Hughes.

Well done. I think you are the first person ever to make a cricket joke at his expense.