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This one is going to end in heart break again for freo supporters
This one is going to end in heart break again for freo supporters
So Freo Out 3x Picks, In Chad WarnerAs per my recent post in the Oscar Allen thread - Any Sydney or Eagles punters keen on a 3-way trade of Warner to Dockers, Oscar Allen to Sydney and the Dockers 3 First rounders to Eagles with probably a couple of second rounders back to Dockers (maybe eagles this year and next ?)
Thoughts ?
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Yes it likely does as freo is not a destination club.This one is going to end in heart break again for freo supporters
Yes it likely does as freo is not a destination club.
The FFC has to earn everything it gets , nothing is gifted
What I find amusing is that looking at the posting history of every Freo fan who is speaking on good authority, not a single one of them mentions Warner heading back West before the game against Freo earlier in the year which where he blew up and the subsequent article from the West where they blew up the fact that a player having a career year didn't sign a contract two years early.Maybe, I have it on pretty good authority he’s currently keen to get home and play in purple.
I'm definitely not 1 of the posters professing any level of inside knowledge, but fwiw you're wrong. Carnthedockers is probably the most "known" ITK poster, and he was on that possibility at least last year. Optimism has definitely grown as time has progressed, but you're making it out like it's gone from 0 to 100 basically solely off the back of shit talk. That's patently false.What I find amusing is that looking at the posting history of every Freo fan who is speaking on good authority, not a single one of them mentions Warner heading back West before the game against Freo earlier in the year which where he blew up and the subsequent article from the West where they blew up the fact that a player having a career year didn't sign a contract two years early.
I withdraw. Every Freo poster professing certainty except one who heard from "Friends of family" who also thought McDonald was going to Freo.I'm definitely not 1 of the posters professing any level of inside knowledge, but fwiw you're wrong. Carnthedockers is probably the most "known" ITK poster, and he was on that possibility at least last year. Optimism has definitely grown as time has progressed, but you're making it out like it's gone from 0 to 100 basically solely off the back of shit talk. That's patently false.
He's posting in this thread is he?Ryan Daniels had also been indicating since before this season started that he's sitting on Chad Warner stuff, but not gonna put it out fully coz there's a fair while before anything will happen
The implication seemed to be all chatter was sparked based on an article from The West, and that the story in general is a nothing burger. Used Daniels as an example to counter the latter in particular. If you didn't mean that the story is a nothing burger, my bad.He's posting in this thread is he?
As I said earlier, look at the posts of the majority of people making statements of certainty about this, look at what's been posted by them before and after around May 20 this year.The idea that Freo fans have any sort of regard for some rubbish piece from the west is nonsense; all Freo fans know that save a couple exceptions it's trash. If there's any sort of cause and effect going on, it's "real chatter from people who actually know what they're talking about leading to increased posts + rubbish articles", not rubbish articles causing increased posts.
Incorrect. We were chasing McDonald. No one ever said he was coming. Most knew he was unlikely, I personally am glad it didn’t eventuate. Warner is a diff story. I was told by close friends of the family last year this would be his last contract at Sydney. I spoke with Ryan Daniel’s, he did some digging and realized there was substance to it. I have no idea which club is his preference. Don’t shoot the messenger. I also know if he leaves it won’t be this year.I withdraw. Every Freo poster professing certainty except one who heard from "Friends of family" who also thought McDonald was going to Freo.
Anyway, compare the chat and certainty around this from before that West article and after.
He's posting in this thread is he?
He lives!Incorrect. We were chasing McDonald. No one ever said he was coming. Most knew he was unlikely, I personally am glad it didn’t eventuate. Warner is a diff story. I was told by close friends of the family last year this would be his last contract at Sydney. I spoke with Ryan Daniel’s, he did some digging and realized there was substance to it. I have no idea which club is his preference. Don’t shoot the messenger. I also know if he leaves it won’t be this year.
Freo are willing to give upAgreed. I'd imagine that's what the Swans would ask for to get him in 2024.
Honestly, when I suggested 3 1st rounders this year to get Warner while in contract I thought I'd get push back saying he wasn't worth that much. No player is worth that much, even one like Chad who looks like he could win a Brownlow. But if Freo were dumb enough to offer 2 top 10 picks and a future 1st for him this year, I'd drive him to the airport myself.
Don't get me wrong, Chad is a jet, but that would be handing Beatson a legacy defining draft hand to build a dynasty.
We already have 2 1st rounders this year. So we'd have 4 1sts this year (2 of which would be top 10)
We'd have 2 1sts next year
We'd have a ridiculous amount of draft capital for trade purposes. Do we want to make a play for Pick 1? Do we want to make a play for Gold Coast's 1st rounder with our later picks and have 3 top 10's this year?
Do we want to package up our future 1sts and go all in this year and play for 2 top 5 picks?
Do we want to push one of our 2024 picks to 2025 so that we have 3 1sts in 2025 when Rampe, Parker, and Lloyd are all coming out of contract so we can trade for somebody?
The draft and trade flexibility would be the stuff of dreams.
But it would also provide us with a crazy amount of cap flexibility.
We wouldn't have to worry about a new contract for Warner, and the Dockers would be throwing out their salary structure to convince him to come over.
1st rounders now sign 3 year contracts, so those two draft hauls would first be coming out of contract in 2027 and 2028. Until then they'd be playing on cap friendly contracts.
The following players will be taking pay cuts or retiring in that stretch.
Parker, Adams, Lloyd, Rampe, Ladhams, Grundy
Right as they'd be freeing up cap space, we'd be in a position to give those new kids a second contract that would make them happy but wouldn't break the bank, all while the salary cap jumps and new CBA's kick in. It would be the perfect way to plan cap management over the next 5 years.
It would also significantly extend our window via our list demographics. We'd have more access to top end talent in the 18-21 range. Gulden, Campbell, Warner, Blakey, they're all in that 22-25 bracket now.
Getting top end talent now with a bounty of 1st rounders would let us do a handover from Parker, Lloyd, Rampe, to Heeney, Mills, Florent, Hayward, Papley, to Gulden, Blakey, Campbell, Rowbottom, McCartin, McDonald to Cleary, Sheldrick, Roberts, 2025 and 2026 draft haul
That would be a great result.
It's BigFooty, so obviously you don't speak for Freo, and I don't speak for Sydney, but if you could stand outside Peter Bell's office every day from now until Trade Period with a sign that says "2x top 10 picks and a 2026 1st for Warner this year" that would be much appreciated.
What I find amusing is that looking at the posting history of every Freo fan who is speaking on good authority, not a single one of them mentions Warner heading back West before the game against Freo earlier in the year which where he blew up and the subsequent article from the West where they blew up the fact that a player having a career year didn't sign a contract two years early.
Which part?Incorrect.
You didn't think that "a lot of small things point to him coming?"We were chasing McDonald. No one ever said he was coming. Most knew he was unlikely, I personally am glad it didn’t eventuate.
Who's shooting the messenger?Warner is a diff story. I was told by close friends of the family last year this would be his last contract at Sydney. I spoke with Ryan Daniel’s, he did some digging and realized there was substance to it. I have no idea which club is his preference. Don’t shoot the messenger. I also know if he leaves it won’t be this year.
Which part?
You didn't think that "a lot of small things point to him coming?"
Who's shooting the messenger?
I'm pointing out that a lot of posters posting with certainty about him leaving had no clue before the media rush?
Is there, though? This is the point. There was near radio silence at the start of the year, Warner starts having a massive year, an article is published saying he turned down a contact extention two seasons out from his contract expiring and all of a sudden everyone has inside info.No-one knows with certainty, Sydney are well known for holding fast with contracted players and a lot of things can change in the next 12-18 months before Warners’ contract actually expires - but there is obviously a bit of chatter around at the moment, coming from several angles
ITK’s have info, but are sitting on it because it’s so far out and anything can happen.Is there, though? This is the point. There was near radio silence at the start of the year, Warner starts having a massive year, an article is published saying he turned down a contact extention two seasons out from his contract expiring and all of a sudden everyone has inside info.
I think the part where this falls down is Sydney talking to Warner based on an article discussing something that happened months earlier that they would be pretty aware of.ITK’s have info, but are sitting on it because it’s so far out and anything can happen.
Media get a hold of it and start “what if”
Club (Sydney) approach player to get an idea of intentions.
Player let’s club know if thinking, that info gets back to family members and club leakages.
ITK’s and media now have new information that confirms what the original thoughts were, and now share it.
It’s not hard to understand at all.
Search the timeline of my posts. I put it on our forum about 6 months ago. The youngest Warner was at the house when I was told. I know rhino won’t run with it until he’s absolutely sure. I know the whole lachie Neale thing has him hesitant. It basically put a halt to the trade.Is there, though? This is the point. There was near radio silence at the start of the year, Warner starts having a massive year, an article is published saying he turned down a contact extention two seasons out from his contract expiring and all of a sudden everyone has inside info.
Why was their little brother in the house when you heard from a friend of the family?Search the timeline of my posts. I put it on our forum about 6 months ago. The youngest Warner was at the house when I was told. I know rhino won’t run with it until he’s absolutely sure. I know the whole lachie Neale thing has him hesitant. It basically put a halt to the trade.
Huh? Not sure why you are trying to twist what I’m saying. The friends of the warners are clients of mine, the son specifically was the one that told me. The young Warner was with him at the house when he told me. Anyway, I’m not here to convince you. I believe it’s happening. If it doesn’t I’m sure you will be here to remind me. The fact he has put off contract talks is interesting.Why was their little brother in the house when you heard from a friend of the family?
Anyway, I saw that you posted it last year, so from there you can assume you're not one of the people who has started speaking with authority on this since the story of Warner not extended early broke a few months after the event.