News Chad Wingard traded to Hawthorn for ... dammit who is peeling onions?

[RussellEbertHandball]

It looks like it will be a case of:

Out: Wingard, Polec, Pittard, pick 23, pick 30, pick 48, pick 50
for
In: Pick 5 (Rankine or Rozee or Smith), Burton, Pick 15

Just process that.


Let's say Wingard for Rozee - loss
Polec for Burton - maybe break even, probably loss
Pittard, pick 23, pick 30, pick 48, pick 50 for pick 15 - massive loss

What the hell have we done??????

I keep saying if our list management guys can't get our ruck list management right over 4 years, scared to get 1 extra ready to go ruckman, then what chance have they got to get the complicated shit right?

If what you say above turns out and is what we get, after starting off with 5 picks under 50, after doing all that pick swapping in 2017 and trading out depth payers in 2017, for 2018 picks as well, then we are stuffed.

They have been blinded by a couple of star SA kids.

But we will do a bit better than you posted. Pick 6 + Hombsch will get us pick 5 from the GC and we will also have 10, 15 and Burton.

If the super deal happens, 5 flows from Brisbane to Freo for Neale, then to Melbourne for Hogan and then to GC for May. There are side deals but this is how 5 will basically flow. I can live with 6+Homsch for 5 as an isolated transaction but after 2 years of pick swapping we have to find another tall young KPD otherwise it leaves another big gap in the list.

 

[Portology]

* Ex CEO Mark Evans becames GM Footy Operations before shipped off the the GC to save AFL's baby
* AFL brokered deal to get ex Hawk to become coach at Brisbane
* Ex President at Hawks after Kennett's first terms, Andrew Newbolt was appointed to the Commission within a couple of months of finishing up as prez. Is now #2 behind chairman Richard Goyder.
* Other ex Hawks serve in several key positions and committees at AFL.
* Ex CEO of Hawks Stuart Fox is CEO at MCG, helps with their stadium yield.

That's what happens when you win lots of premiership and have that 20 year run from 1971-1991 for 8 flags. The successful 20-30-40 year olds from that era become powerful and/or influential 40-50-60 year olds at HQ and around the game.

You might add: AFL steps in to “manage” the future scope of North’s Hobart adventure, so as not to upset Hawthorn’s Launceston cash cow too much. But I can’t point at a name so...

Bloody hell, for all the justifiable point bitching and moaning about the Vic old boys club that is AFL House, imagine if a bloody SANFL executive had been restructured into that more independent form back in the 1980s and made appointments on merit rather than on factional alignment and club lines.

We’d have been running the place in 1990 instead of being run over by it.



Speaking of naming names and wild allegations, do we know exactly who is it in AFL House that approves seemingly rapacious trades so long as the right clubs are bent over?

Wouldn’t be some ex-Hawk or a “known associate” would it?


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[B0ydmental]

I'm still traumatized by last years trade. Didnt we swap 11 and 29 for 17 and 27? Something bizarre like that.

Can anyone walk me through what that was about?

 

[SimonSpeilberg]

Gillon McLaughlin, “Round 1 Port Adelaide vs Hawthorn”

Hawthorn T Scully 1 vote
Hawthorn J Impey 2 votes
Hawthorn C Wingard 3 votes

*K Amon 1 vote

 

[It Just Is]

Did we get screwed on the Renouf trade? I can't remember.

Yes, we traded for Brent Renouf.

 

[PAFC66]

Goodnight sweet Prince...

I'll see you all in a few years

We are ****ed.lol

 

[DaTBird187]

"Heres your ******* potato fritters"

I can picture Danny Aiello from Do the right thing.

 

[Hong-Kong Phooey]

I'm pretty sure this is why the royals are here. To help clarko get his deals through

 

[Revan11]

I'm still traumatized by last years trade. Didnt we swap 11 and 29 for 17 and 27? Something bizarre like that.

Can anyone walk me through what that was about?

You mean 2016? We swapped 9 and 19 for 14, 16, 30 and 31 I believe. We got Marshall, SPP, Drew and Atley. Swans got Florent and Hayward.

 

[Revan11]

I've always thought about how negatively we're going to think back on the Hinkley era when it's eventually over.

HOFF HOFF HOFF HOFF!

 

[PAFC66]

imo, the best scenario we can hope for is Burton + 15, then trade Amon and Hombsch for about pick 60 odd each, and then with those two 60+ picks we can then package them up and shove them up Ken Hinkleys ass.

POTY or whatever's left of it.

 

[It Just Is]

You mean 2016? We swapped 9 and 19 for 14, 16, 30 and 31 I believe. We got Marshall, SPP, Drew and Atley. Swans got Florent and Hayward.

I get that all drafts are different but that year we downgraded our first pick in a break even points trade. This year we upgraded our first pick and paid a 50% points premium.

Hard to argue that we could have won both those trades... I guess we should take comfort knowing we dealt fairly with the other clubs.

 

[Boxx]

It looks like it will be a case of:

Out: Wingard, Polec, Pittard, pick 23, pick 30, pick 48, pick 50
for
In: Pick 5 (Rankine or Rozee or Smith), Burton, Pick 15

Just process that.


Let's say Wingard for Rozee - loss
Polec for Burton - maybe break even, probably loss
Pittard, pick 23, pick 30, pick 48, pick 50 for pick 15 - massive loss

What the hell have we done??????

Well, at least we offloaded JMP!

 

[DaTBird187]

I can see a Skeletor like meltdown coming up.

 

[B0ydmental]

Whether it's TRUE.


Fairfax Media understands that Chad Wingard’s move to Hawthorn, in exchange for Ryan Burton and pick 15 – and possibly something else – is potentially linked to these moves, with Port eventually ending up with pick five and losing pick six. They would also receive pick 15 from Hawthorn.


One is the possible involvement of Wingard’s move from Port to Hawthorn, another would be that Jack Hombsch would be traded to Gold Coast, which would receive pick six and Hombsch, in return for May and Kade Kolodjashnij, who would both join Melbourne. Port, having already traded down in the trade for pick six, would move further down to pick five.


The trade has been largely put together by the AFL’s biggest player management group TLA, which handles Neale, Hogan, Wingard, Lobb and Hombsch

 

[B0ydmental]

Goodnight sweet Prince...

I'll see you all in a few years

We are ******.lol

Letting player managers dictate the draft. To the benefit of the biggest paying clubs

 

[B0ydmental]

You mean 2016? We swapped 9 and 19 for 14, 16, 30 and 31 I believe. We got Marshall, SPP, Drew and Atley. Swans got Florent and Hayward.

That's it. But it wasn't for 30 and 31. They were 100% separate to that.

Who we got is irrelevant to applying that theory going forward

 

[Powerade 08]

If we are getting involved in a multi-club deal but the meat of the trade is still pick 15 + Burton, then we are just being nice guys and helping everyone else while we get reamed.

A multi-club deal should be to help us get proper value for Wingard i.e. a high draft pick.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

I'm still traumatized by last years trade. Didnt we swap 11 and 29 for 17 and 27? Something bizarre like that.

Can anyone walk me through what that was about?

I think you are mixing up 2016 and 2017.
https://www.draftguru.com.au/years/2016 Then click on the show 36 trades of 2016 link
Port Adelaide got 14 + 17 + 31 gave 9 + 19 + 49
Sydney........ got 9 + 19 + 49.. gave 14 + 17 + 31

After compo and academy bids it became 16+18+33.

last year we traded many 3rd and 4th round picks between 2017 and 2018.
https://www.draftguru.com.au/years/2017 Then click on the show 30 trades of 2017 link

 

[mic59]

This makes no sense.

You're looking for sense on this board?

 

[Dylan8]

Stewart Dews BMI

35

POTY

 

[TeeKray]

So much Tabasco sauce this week T....

LOL

It's a good thing this whole fiasco wraps up tomorrow, I reckon I'm only about 24 hours from spontaneously combusting.

 

[Powerade 08]

Most of the phantom drafts have 3-4 NGA players bid on before pick 15 by the way, so our pick becomes 18/19.

 

[Jack_1870]

At least we wont have to worry about this next year,we will have no one else left that anyone wants!

 

[ClickBOOM1870]

Most of the phantom drafts have 3-4 NGA players bid on before pick 15 by the way, so our pick becomes 18/19.

Im thinking we’re likely to trade that 15 before draft night anyway.