Unofficial Preview Changes for Carlton (team in OP) IN Reid, Ramsay, De Goey OUT Schade, Broomhead , Varcoe

[jmac70]

 

[FAIRANDBALANCED]

I never said Ramsay and Smith are spuds.. they're generic/vanilla types. They're ok. But definetely not the types we need off the hbf.. i think of the hbf position as the most flamboyant position in the defence.. they are defenders yes.. but they should own that wing as well.. so endurance hard running and flamboyance.

Was Dane Rampe a generic vanilla type in his first 5 years of footy? What about Alex Rance? Jasper Pittard? Zac Williams?
Ramsay may not reach the level of these guys, but each of them had some absolute shockers in their first 3-4 years of football. Each of them also had good qualities to work with, so does Ramsay. He has speed and is a nice kick, he is also hard at the contest. He has played 14 games of footy, he will make mistakes and infuriate you, but if you allow a little patience, maybe he will become the kind of player that you forget was ever shaky in his first 50 games ( as everyone has with the above listed players).

 

[BringouttheGimp]

Was Dane Rampe a generic vanilla type in his first 5 years of footy? What about Alex Rance? Jasper Pittard? Zac Williams?
Ramsay may not reach the level of these guys, but each of them had some absolute shockers in their first 3-4 years of football. Each of them also had good qualities to work with, so does Ramsay. He has speed and is a nice kick, he is also hard at the contest. He has played 14 games of footy, he will make mistakes and infuriate you, but if you allow a little patience, maybe he will become the kind of player that you forget was ever shaky in his first 50 games ( as everyone has with the above listed players).

Seriously.. I've never played a game of competitive footy.. except soccer.. and i can tell ya.. I've got more flair in my kick.. movement.. run.. skills.. than this guy. You either have it.. or you don't.

I like him.. i think he's ok.. but seriously.. i think we underrate how important the hbf position is. As i said earlier.. it's actually the most flamboyant of defensive positions.

 

[Soups]

Was Dane Rampe a generic vanilla type in his first 5 years of footy? What about Alex Rance? Jasper Pittard? Zac Williams?
Ramsay may not reach the level of these guys, but each of them had some absolute shockers in their first 3-4 years of football. Each of them also had good qualities to work with, so does Ramsay. He has speed and is a nice kick, he is also hard at the contest. He has played 14 games of footy, he will make mistakes and infuriate you, but if you allow a little patience, maybe he will become the kind of player that you forget was ever shaky in his first 50 games ( as everyone has with the above listed players).

Well said, I think he has it in him. In one of his early games he looked like he was going to explode. Could have been against the dogs? Was just unfortunate he got injured at the time. He's the type of player that will need a few games pumped into, ala Maynard.

Amazing how quick people can turn on someone.

 

[neilk]

Do we now effectively have 2 guys we can swing forward if the situation calls for it? Reid and Dunn, maybe even Goldy?

 

[Horaceg]

Gee hard to see chris mayne playing another game

I'd even have Crocker before Mayne and he can't crack it just yet. Mayne is on reasonable coin for the foreseeable future, just hoping his contract has performance clauses.

 

[Kirby]

Nobody give a flying fork about your soccer skills Gimp. Give it a rest

 

[bunter]

Surprised Broomhead and Schade have been dropped to be honest, I don't think Schades performance on the weekend warranted him to be picked this week. I just though bucks was never going to drop him. Broomhead is incredibly stiff, I thought he did some really good things last week. He reminds me of a poor mans Sidebottom to be honest, I feel like he need a good run at it to show his true worth. Hopefully he is only being managed.

De Goey is an exciting in, I feel like he's ready to tear the house down and I hope he does. Reid is just an obvious in really I prefer not to comment on Ramsey's inclusion.

didn't broomhead knock to his head?
don't think he warranted being dropped on form

 

[Soaring Magpie]

Seriously.. I've never played a game of competitive footy.. except soccer.. and i can tell ya.. I've got more flair in my kick.. movement.. run.. skills.. than this guy. You either have it.. or you don't.

I like him.. i think he's ok.. but seriously.. i think we underrate how important the hbf position is. As i said earlier.. it's actually the most flamboyant of defensive positions.

Never played a game of footy, yet have more flair and skills... give it a rest

 

[Black_White]

Is it heresy to say that Reid for Schade isn't particularly a good move.
Particularly after the coach has ruled out putting Reid forward? (Flashback to Malthouse not moving Tarrant to Tomahawk 2011.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

At least Blair isn't playing....

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Yet

 

[Apex36]

Well said, I think he has it in him. In one of his early games he looked like he was going to explode. Could have been against the dogs? Was just unfortunate he got injured at the time. He's the type of player that will need a few games pumped into, ala Maynard.

Amazing how quick people can turn on someone.

Had like 28 disposals and was rock solid in defence in his second game last year, looked like a break out game, then did his acl at training a few days later. The kid has had to completely reset, it's incredible that people are so hard on him.

 

[bunter]

Do we now effectively have 2 guys we can swing forward if the situation calls for it? Reid and Dunn, maybe even Goldy?

good point, flexible
will bucks swing a change though?

 

[El cane]

Schade and Broomy stiff to miss out, but Reid and JDG are unquestionable upgrades. Ramsay for Varcoe makes sense, although I'm against recalling players who've been omitted and then not earned a recall on principle, but he's definitely the most like for like replacement.

Still wish it had been Cox out and Schade retained with Reid forward. I reckon our forward line would function so much better with that set up.

I wonder if Ramsey got picked because Aish wasn't available. I thought his speed would be better than Ramsey

 

[Horaceg]

Correct grammar is not required on a discussion board. It's always the last resort for people who get off on feeling superior.

Agree, best left in the classroom

 

[neilk]

I wonder if Ramsey got picked because Aish wasn't available. I thought his speed would be better than Ramsey

Wasn't Aish named as an emergency?

 

[ash84]

Broomy stiff. Would have omitted Phillips instead.

Bad call

 

[Apex36]

I wonder if Ramsey got picked because Aish wasn't available. I thought his speed would be better than Ramsey

Ramma is faster than Aish. And I'm pretty sure Aish is available, but one solid VFL game isn't really enough for a recall (although I'm loathe to bring in Ramsay after he was omitted with no hitout, just as with Smith last week.)

 

[esc0bar]

Ramsey reminds me of Jaxson Barham except with a better kick. Same height and has good speed but played one good game to fool everyone. Jaxson stared against the Brisbane Lions - 28 Disposal and 9 tackles. Didn't do much after that. Infact was delisted a year later. Had high hopes for the kid but the kid looks lost out on the field and usually gets beaten in every contest.

 

[El cane]

Wasn't Aish named as an emergency?

Was he I missed that. Damn I would have taken Aish and made Ramsey prove some form in the vfl

 

[Kirby]

Schade had 2 poor games in a row so he really can't complain. Having said that, he's a little unlucky and could easily come back in a week with a good VFL game.

 

[neilk]

Ramma is faster than Aish. And I'm pretty sure Aish is available, but one solid VFL game isn't really enough for a recall (although I'm loathe to bring in Ramsay after he was omitted with no hitout, just as with Smith last week.)

Perhaps they were being "managed"?

 

[BlueRenaissance]

Really interested in this game to see how important the short number of days between games impacts this match. Carlton had two short turnarounds in 2 weeks resulting in a smashing by Port. Fast forward to now and Pies have had two short turnarounds in a row.

On paper, you have us covered easily but will be interesting to see how much the last two weeks take out of the Pies. Might be a surprise result, or at the very least, a close run match. Doesnt reflect a fair matchup in my opinion as recovery is hugely important. Blues get a sneaky chance.

 

[El cane]

Ramma is faster than Aish. And I'm pretty sure Aish is available, but one solid VFL game isn't really enough for a recall (although I'm loathe to bring in Ramsay after he was omitted with no hitout, just as with Smith last week.)

Yeah I missed that. I thought they said during the week he hurt his hammy. I must have been dreaming. I don't know if Ramma is faster, he likes to take on the first player. Anyway hopefully he plays a solid game doesn't fumble and doesn't turn it over so much

 

[Magpie Monopoly]

Dunn played on Hawkins last week. Stop giving Schade credit for others work.

Um i sit in the pocket in the Ponsford, both rotated on him throughout the first half, then in the second half Schade started most centre bounce's on Dangerfield however still rotated onto Hawkins regularly.

Was at the game, have a pretty good view from where i sit. Did you watch it on TV?