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Juan Ide
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I'd trade (efa) big Mason, Reef and our future 1st for CP, I reckon.
(If we could fit the incoming salary dump within our cap, that is)
... might even be prepared to give away a 3rd-rounder (and AJ, if they'd have him)
(If we could fit the incoming salary dump within our cap, that is)
... might even be prepared to give away a 3rd-rounder (and AJ, if they'd have him)
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One way to do a trade
76woodenspooners
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It was also at Collingwood in the 2010’s.
For example …
Dane Swan retired at 32.
Chris Tarrant retired at 32.
Darren Jolly retired at 31.
Nick Maxwell retired at 31.
Alan Didak retired at 30.
Luke Ball retired at 30.
Travis Cloke retired (from Bulldogs) at 30.
Jen2310
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Depends on the player and their health, injuries etc or simply if they feel they have gotten everything they can from their bodies in afl footy.
sr36
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I'll be surprised if we keep all of Long, Sullivan and Bytel and I won't be surprised if we don't keep any of them.
They're state league standard depth and don't look likely to become more than that. We can get that any time from the SSP. Go again and try to find ones with a bit more upside.
sr36
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Shame we delisted Begg - could have thrown him in to seal the deal.
Tarkyn_24
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You have better intel than me. I have no idea how they all lay.Checkers won't be moving on. We haven't even had a season with Checkers & McStay together yet, which we may fi ally get in 2025
As for any others, they're all contracted as far as I'm aware & laying well. If they planned to retire, they'd have said so before now.
Tarkyn_24
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Jolly felt 35 and lost his spot to a nineteen year old tbf
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Haha. Typo. Playing, not laying
Thoughts on fiorini? With nobles trade could maybe grab him for free as part of it for an upgraded pick from GC. No superstar but he’s an upgrade on them you’d think
foreigner
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I believe at least one or two of the most senior players should retire this year. I thought Steele would, but he wants to go on. I don't see anyone else retiring either.
This will create an issue where we lose a heap of players at once and the younger players coming in without much exposure. Every senior player going on next year, could create years of pain in a few years. Given the fact that we haven't done well in drafts for years (giving away top picks) it's going to have bigger repercussions.
Salary cap space to trade for or recruit key position player or two will get hindered as well.
This will create an issue where we lose a heap of players at once and the younger players coming in without much exposure. Every senior player going on next year, could create years of pain in a few years. Given the fact that we haven't done well in drafts for years (giving away top picks) it's going to have bigger repercussions.
Salary cap space to trade for or recruit key position player or two will get hindered as well.
correct and they were all busted up and done.
none of the guys now are busted up. that's my point. if you're fit and healthy 30 isn't old.
Geelong have been on the wrong side of the 30 cliff for a decade.
You're catastrophising. Those players are worth more to us playing than their cap space at the moment. When they retire we pool that money and bring in an experienced, elite player or two to fill the void—meanwhile, young leaders get more experience under their wing.
foreigner
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By retaining all of them, younger players are not getting the opportunities and then we will lose all of them at once creating a huge vacuum. We've traditionally compromised our list for short term benefits which hasn't always borne fruit. Except for most of the father-son drafts, our draft record has not been very good. We've given up a lot on trades as well by trying to somehow get the trade done at any cost.
Whatever we say about Ginni, he used to give us a spark and drive which we have lacked this year. Hawks now, play with similar spark like we used to in the first two years of Fly. It all helps in getting the best out of everyone.
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If there is one thing we missed this year, it wasn't Ginni. His replacement adequately covered his goal production and far surpassed him on the pressure side of things.
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Swan did lis franc joint in his foot. I did the same thing around the same time, and my surgeon told me Swan - he will never play AFL again. It is one of the worst bones to break. I think he still had lots in him. Also, the mindset around recovery, longevity, and bucks desire to turn over the list, impacted.
The 2 that stand out is Travis Cloke and Alan Didak, supreme talents who dropped off so quickly. Also Tarrant could have gone on if he had the desire.
Fingers crossed - as we do have a lot of over 30’s. To contend, we need one of our younger players to break out (hopefully Allan) and get DeGoey, Moore, IQ, and Maynard back to their best.
Jack Ginnivan? Really?
foreigner
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Apart from pressure I didn't see much of an improvement. Ginni had the X factor and the infectious exuberance that lifted the team. Schultz more often than not, missed goals at crucial times which would have given us some momentum (late in the Lions game being the only exception I can remember). Ginni used to kick those.
Some valid arguments here https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.th...e-ginnivan-trade-cost-collingwood-finals/amp/
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Your initial point wasn't about the trades. But now it turns out you are another one of them.
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I'm over 30 and I don't feel old at all......
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In: Lynch and Petracca
Out: Noble and Reef
Out: Noble and Reef
76woodenspooners
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If by “us” you mean us fans in the stands - then yeah, that may be so. Jack was great at doing the things that make the highlight reels.
But when it came to doing unsexy things like team defence he was rubbish.
76woodenspooners
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I’d hate to lose Richards, but I’d reluctantly throw him in as a sweetener if it meant getting that deal done.
(jokes)
