He didn't come up in the system so he's probably going to have to continue averaging 18 at Shield level for another three years before he gets a chance.
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He didn't come up in the system so he's probably going to have to continue averaging 18 at Shield level for another three years before he gets a chance.
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Stuff the system - he's the best bowler in Shield cricket.
If guys like Khawaja, Hughes, Smith, Hauritz, Cameron and O'Keefe are in the mix for Australia and Australia A, then surely (hopefully?) Copeland is getting noticed as well.
if harris was going to be ruled unfit. that's what the selectors will do. it doesn't make it the right choice
Hussey
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Ponting
Clarke
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Haddin
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Michael Hussey is the right man to open considering our lack of good openers. David Hussey to come into the middle - good all round cricketer. Smith and Hauritz to complete the spinning duties. Hilfy and Harris to open the bowling accurately. Also this lineup ensures a strong tail, which is needed for us to squeeze out every available run.
Johnson is the only one i'm iffy about but he is such an enigmatic cricketer in all areas of the game i'd struggle to leave him out.
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Michael Hussey is the right man to open considering our lack of good openers. David Hussey to come into the middle - good all round cricketer. Smith and Hauritz to complete the spinning duties. Hilfy and Harris to open the bowling accurately. Also this lineup ensures a strong tail, which is needed for us to squeeze out every available run.
Johnson is the only one i'm iffy about but he is such an enigmatic cricketer in all areas of the game i'd struggle to leave him out.
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I'm getting really worried that Smith is going to get a game. Surely people don't think he is a better batsman than White, Marsh, D Hussey, Kwaja etc?
Oh, I completely agree with you.
I was more pointing out how dumb it is.
Siddle was picked at the same age, with about the same first class experience but with worse results than Copeland. That's at a time when our bowling stocks were better (Lee was still around, Clark was still one of the best in the world).
Copeland should almost be a no brainer at this point. When the team takes 1/519 followed by 5/620, you should simply look at the Shield and say "Who has the best record over the last 10 matches?"
There's Copeland, with 57 wickets at 18, with an economy rate of 2.65. If that doesn't scream "pick me!" I don't know what does.
Let's hope he picks up a big haul in the second innings at the SCG and gets in the side.
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As much as I hate saying it to a mod, you are dead right unfortunately because Ponting and Clarke need to be gone although for different reasons. I think using Jacques as an interim opener as that is better than a middle order batsman being destroyed by playing out of position.
As for a few others saying promote M Hussey I ask why you would move the only bloke getting runs FFS. If they have real guts they could get rid of Ponting and Clarke and move Hussey back to 4. And as to the call to bring back Johnson I would say that this would be a disaster. Senh him back to Qld and get him bowling long spells where most of us don't care if his team loses. In fact it kind of makes us happy
Australian cricket is strong when NSW cricket is strong and form the nucleus of the team. Check history and you will see it is true. Get back to basics.
As much as I hate saying it to a mod, you are dead right unfortunately because Ponting and Clarke need to be gone although for different reasons. I think using Jacques as an interim opener as that is better than a middle order batsman being destroyed by playing out of position.
As for a few others saying promote M Hussey I ask why you would move the only bloke getting runs FFS. If they have real guts they could get rid of Ponting and Clarke and move Hussey back to 4. And as to the call to bring back Johnson I would say that this would be a disaster. Senh him back to Qld and get him bowling long spells where most of us don't care if his team loses. In fact it kind of makes us happy
Australian cricket is strong when NSW cricket is strong and form the nucleus of the team. Check history and you will see it is true. Get back to basics.
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none of that matters. selectors will pick who they want and make excuses to justify their choices.
White has a 1st class average of 42.02, which is inflated due to time spent in County Cricket. His Shield average is closer to 38 (hoping someone can confirm/deny this). He's a handy limited overs player, but his batting is severely overrated in the longer form of the game.
Smith has a 1st class average of 43.43, so yes, I do rate him as a better prospect than White.
D Hussey is 33 and would only add to the biggest problem faced by the Australian Cricket team - block obsolescence due to the "Dad's Army" factor. His time has already passed.
For what it's worth, I'd be selecting Smith, Khawaja and Marsh for the 3rd test.
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I reckon that looks about right... some of the suggestions on here are quite ridiculous. There won't be an overhaul of the team like some think, as their shouldnt.
McDonald, Hodge, White, Marsh won't be called up... as they shouldn't.
Katich is out through injury
North and Doherty almost have to be dropped due to lack of ability.
The others are right to stay i reckon... eventually like to see Siddle replaced with Hilfenhaus...
He scored 772 runs in the Shield last year. At 77 (highest average) with four centuries - more than anyone else in the comp.
He hasn't had the best start to the year, but his knock against England showed he has the temperament to play at international level.
His bowling is a bonus.
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Sorry but do not agree. The team needs to be overhauled not fiddled with. The reason for this is because the generational renewal has been delayed for 2 years. If North and Hussey had been replaced 18 months ago when they should have been we would be focussing on one batsman and 2 bowlers but time has marched on leaving us where we are today.
In saying thaty I would be surprised if there are more than 2 changes plus Katich replacement
Why replace Katich with Hussey?
Because none of the shield openers are up to the task, especially Hughes. If we accept this assumption, then we're going to have to promote a middle order batsman to do the job - either one of the incumbents or one of the incoming batsmen. My personal opinion is that Hussey is the least worst option available.
Fair enough but I am of the school of not weakening one spot to strengthen another. IMO leave Hussey and bring in the best opener we have for 5 day cricket. I would go for Jacques but happy for the selectors to pick the best opener available.
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The whole series is just getting worse, not only is Katich gone but Harris is out for Perth as well. This means 3 forced changes before we start looking North & Bollinger
Out: Katich, Harris, Doherty, Bollinger
In: Marsh, Hauritz, Cameron, Swan/Johnson
Out: Katich, Harris, Doherty, Bollinger
In: Marsh, Hauritz, Cameron, Swan/Johnson
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Then we will be losers FOREVER!
Australia will not win The Ashes for 10 years!
No Reflexes, sight diminishing, lost speed, and importantly NO RUNS.
Ricky, you should've retired last year, along with others.
Australia resembles the dad's army that England used to send on Ashes tours through the 80's and 90's. IF I had my way, Ponting and a few others would've been gone last year. Last summer was full of mediocrity which has continued on for a further 12 months.
The problem with Australian Cricket is that people are allowed to go into extended form slumps and "be saved" by one good innings. The Selectors do nothing to address the slide. I am no fan of Pontings but respect what he has donein and for the game. I fear now that he has run out of options with the Captaincy. I would not make Clarke captain in his place though, as he is too inconsistent at the moment and record is not great. I would make Watson Captain. Though I am also no great fan of his, Watson is the only one who looks like he will be part of the team in 2 years.
I would have given captaincy to the proven Katich for 2-3 years, had he not been injured.
Not according to this http://www.espncricinfo.com/the-ashes-2010-11/content/story/490991.html
It says Harris cleared to play
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Why do people want Johnson back?
He has being appauling for a while.
Johnson needs a few shield games to regain his form and confidence.
He has being appauling for a while.
Johnson needs a few shield games to regain his form and confidence.
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watson could be part of the team in 2 years if his body holds up. and that's a big if.
I don't see what changing the captain would do to this side, except unsettle it even further.
would be a stupid decision.
Oh, and if we don't win the ashes this series we will be in an extended slump for probably another 5 years.
those of us with memories that go further back than 2007 can remember that this can and does happen btw.
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