Unofficial Preview Changes & Pre-match Discussion - Round 21 vs. Melbourne, Fri 05/08, 7:50pm MCG

[VinnieB]

MaCrae with 8 clearances.
We should consider giving him a game.

 

[well left]

Who is more likely to nullify Gawn at the centre bounces, Cox or Grundy?:Who is more of a forward threat, Cox or Grundy?:Who is more likely to take strong contested marks deep in defense, Cox or Grundy?

Cox took 3 marks yesterday, one of which was a mark on the goal line he probably should have shepherded through but got him his only goal. It’s not like he’s Stewart Loewe out there. He gets moved off the ball too easily and I think what he does do tends to get overstated because it does look impressive when he does something.

When Grundy is ready, he may need one more week, he’ll come in. Everyone should understand that.


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[KinderSmock]

Before the vitriol and banter gets heated, can I just say I’m so happy you guys can potentially deny Carlton finals in the last round.

I just pinch myself that a few weeks ago, they were premiership contenders. And they still are but they've been less convincing. Despite our close wins, we've still won and that takes skill in itself.

 

[VinnieB]

Before the vitriol and banter gets heated, can I just say I’m so happy you guys can potentially deny Carlton finals in the last round.

Just as we did to you in 2017

 

[The Phantom]

Great run of 10 wins.
Good performance yesterday.
But we need to realise we need to go up a gear for this week, the two after and September.
Teams with stats that look like this don’t win finals:

 

[magpies42]

I would agree but I would really like top4 and as I see it we do not have wriggle room atm to rest players I think Geelong are the only ones who could rest players. I remember 2011 when we really paid for not resting players when we were certainly able too.

That’s right Malthouse was over confident that year…we won the preseason cup!

 

[Pistol Night]

That’s right Malthouse was over confident that year…we won the preseason cup!

We were absolutely humming until about round 18-19. I heard Pendles say once they’d go out every week expecting a 10 goal win they were that tuned up. Definition of peaking early

 

[VinnieB]

Who is more likely to nullify Gawn at the centre bounces, Cox or Grundy?:Who is more of a forward threat, Cox or Grundy?:Who is more likely to take strong contested marks deep in defense, Cox or Grundy?

Grundy every day of the week.
Grundy gets clearances and inside 50s.
I’m sure if he played extended hours in the forward line he would kick goals.
Cox averages 1.4 clearances a game (v 5.5), 8.6 disposals (v 16) 3.55 marks (2.5) and has only kicked 3 goals for the season.

People forget how important Grundy is. We have been smashed in clearances since he has been out.

 

[stormskye]

Great run of 10 wins.
Good performance yesterday.
But we need to realise we need to go up a gear for this week, the two after and September.
Teams with stats that look like this don’t win finals:
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All I see from those stats is exactly our game plan. Contested aside, we don’t overuse the ball like we did under bucks. 100 less disposals and yet we had more inside 50’s is efficient and how we play. We surge the ball. We def need to improve clearances, but that’s been well known and a list issue. This year is “how far”, there’s holes that can’t be fixed until the off season.

 

[mwhop]

MaCrae with 8 clearances.
We should consider giving him a game.

tracking well for rd 1 next yr

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

So you'd be OK with a player not ever actually touching the ball if his whole game was built around only tackling and running?

I’m ok with McReery in his current role. He’s contributing towards us kicking goals and has in fact been a reason we’ve kicked many

Go back and watch the reply of Daicos’ first goal against Adelaide as an example. He basically created that goal single handedly without getting a single possession.

 

[JuniorB]

If the example you were using was for a key forward I’d agree with you

In this case, it should be fairly obvious to anyone who observes Collingwood at a relatively close level that McReery’s playing a fairly specific role that doesn’t involve being a high possession goal kicking medium forward.

He needs to make better use of the possessions he does get.
Missing easy goals being an example, probably because he's rushing things when he doesn't have to.
He's still only 21 though, so plenty of improvement to come.
Hard to improve on his tackling though...

 

[Wearmouth]

I understand what his role is but you have to impact the scoreboard. When you've seen us lose as many grand finals as I have, you know one of the reasons is that we always have players like McCreery who don't do enough or impact enough. He needs to add more strings to his bow, purely and simply

You’re barking up the wrong tree on this one. I can name at least 5 others I’d have out of the side before him.

So no. And we’ve all seen the losing GF’s. And he isn’t the types your talking about. It’s the likes of the WHE’s, the Bianco’s, the current Sidey’s, that we lose GF’s. Not the McCreery’s. Bulls like him lift in finals as they have the power to impact the contests.

The others are made of custard. And wilt under pressure.


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[Wearmouth]

Thanks Jarred blair

Please don’t mention Ephialtes…..


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[Wearmouth]

Hope you're not on Tinder then

I’m way too sexy for tinder….


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[Wearmouth]

INS: Mihocek, Carmichael (into 22)
OUTS: Adams, Bianco (sub)

B - Quaynor Moore Murphy
HB - N.Daicos Howe Maynard
C - J.Daicos DeGoey Sidebottom
HF - Elliott Cameron McCreery
F - Ginnivan Mihocek Johnson
R - Cox Crisp Pendlebury
INT - Carmichael Lipinski Noble WHE

Ruscoe or Macrea sub. Bianco is done. Too slow.


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[Wearmouth]

Cox took 3 marks yesterday, one of which was a mark on the goal line he probably should have shepherded through but got him his only goal. It’s not like he’s Stewart Loewe out there. He gets moved off the ball too easily and I think what he does do tends to get overstated because it does look impressive when he does something.

When Grundy is ready, he may need one more week, he’ll come in. Everyone should understand that.


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If the boys beat the Dreamons Friday, Grundy is not coming into a winning side. Period. Not unless the boys are injured. They will see out the season in their positions. Grundy will have to wait his turn…..


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[magpies42]

DeGoey has played 1 game in the past seven weeks. Not ideal.

Yet straight back in. I think you’re too dim to understand why…..

Wa wa wa Grundy was was was AA AA AA. But is no longer that. Would be lucky to be in the top 10 Ruckman now. Fact.

Cameron and Cox have averaged almost 10 marks per game for the past 9 weeks.

It’s not what I’m telling you. It’s what’s happening and helping us win 10-0. That you need that explained tells me all I need to know.


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Have a look at your post, you were referring to Grundy having never been a great player. Can you read?

The rest of your post doesn’t even make sense.

Back to your crayons, and don’t eat the play dough.

 

[jmac70]

It’s great to see @Wearmouth’s agenda polluting this thread too.
Happy Sunday everyone.

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

Unless Grundy can start absolutely dominating the VFL, I personally don’t think it would be wise to mess with a winning combination that’s currently on a 10 game streak so close to finals.

Cox and Cameron stay for mine unless there’s a justified reason to drop one of them and no sorry “Grundy is available” isn’t a good reason to me

 

[Wearmouth]

Grundy every day of the week.
Grundy gets clearances and inside 50s.
I’m sure if he played extended hours in the forward line he would kick goals.
Cox averages 1.4 clearances a game (v 5.5), 8.6 disposals (v 16) 3.55 marks (2.5) and has only kicked 3 goals for the season.

People forget how important Grundy is. We have been smashed in clearances since he has been out.

We’ve been smashed because our mids are sub par. Adding Grundy doesn’t change that. We just lose the advantage we’ve had around the ground these past 10 games.

Do you forget why we were bottom 2 last year. And we were break even this year. While Grundy was available. Even against the WeeGirls he had a big game. 19 disposals. 33 HO. 8 clearances and 7 i50. Yet we lost to the equal worst team this year. That is a pattern that has trended for the past two years, when it comes to Grundy’s output. It’s a falsehood that gets spewed out all the time. He is a clearance leader. A tap to oneself and a dump kick specialist. That’s how he gets his Champion Data stats. Looks good for him. Just doesn’t help the team progress.

Evident now. But it has taken a while to expose.


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[Wearmouth]

I’m ok with McReery in his current role. He’s contributing towards us kicking goals and has in fact been a reason we’ve kicked many

Go back and watch the reply of Daicos’ first goal against Adelaide as an example. He basically created that goal single handedly without getting a single possession.

Fly knows McReery’s value. And so do his teammates. That’s all the matters.


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[magpies42]

Unless Grundy can start absolutely dominating the VFL, I personally don’t think it would be wise to mess with a winning combination that’s currently on a 10 game streak so close to finals.

Cox and Cameron stay for mine unless there’s a justified reason to drop one of them and no sorry “Grundy is available” isn’t a good reason to me

In all likelihood we won’t be a winning combination coming up against the Dees who need to improve their form, which reaffirms my point we should use this game to rest key players.

I was saying the same thing in the bubble season, and we were spent by the time finals came around. The purpose of football is to win a grand final…it’s not to win home and away season games.

 

[Wearmouth]

Have a look at your post, you were referring to Grundy having never been a great player. Can you read?

The rest of your post doesn’t even make sense.

Back to your crayons, and don’t eat the play dough.

I’d be more concerned that my prolapsed forehead was showing if I was you. Crayons and play dough are used to generate creativity. I do thoroughly enjoy my play time…..


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[KinderSmock]

I’d be more concerned that my prolapsed forehead was showing if I was you. Crayons and play dough are used to generate creativity. I do thoroughly enjoy my play time…..


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Me too. I love play time.