Unofficial Preview Changes & Pre-match Discussion - Round 21 vs. Melbourne, Fri 05/08, 7:50pm MCG

[Wearmouth]

I think it’ll be this plus Grundy in for Cox.

With Adams out I reckon we’ll go to Grundy to give more contest in the middle.


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Hell NO…..


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[Wearmouth]

Why?

He took ZERO MARKS today. That’s why.

Beaten by a NQR Ruckman.

Stays where he is. Cameron and Cox have done exactly what has been needed. 10-0.

You don’t f$&@k with form. And team balance.


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[Wearmouth]

He’s no slower than Sidey

Bianco runs at the speed of dark.


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[Wearmouth]

If you watched the VfL game spinny you would see. Def not ready for AFL. Need atleast another game in the 2’s, and certainly isn’t ready for Gawn/Jackson. Lot of cobwebs to blow out, and match fitness isn’t there.

No where near it at the moment. Until he can clunk marks and ruck. He is useless to us.


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[Wearmouth]

Sidey is far more elusive and turns players inside out. Bianco doesn't have those skills in his kitbag as yet

Ummm…..he never will. I’ve never heard of players gaining pace. You either have it or you don’t. Sidey was quick enough when he was younger. He has slowed of recent times. But still has the shake and bake moves.


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[Wearmouth]

sounded like fly indicated if grundy pulls up well, he'll play v melbourne.

He was happy with what he saw

Well he wasn’t going to say he’d rule him out straight after his game. But I’m certain he won’t play against the Dreamons unless one of the boys is injured or get the Spooky-19 virus.

No chance for this Friday on todays form.


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[Wearmouth]

11 disposals, 6 clearances and 8 tackles also.

ZERO MARKS…….

Very telling he hasn’t learnt a thing while injured.

We need them. About 5/6 per game.


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[Wearmouth]

Considering he has been out for 4 months, l don't think counting his contested marks really matters at this stage.

Very important to our needs in the seniors. The other boys have managed to average around 10 per game.

If my maths serves me well. 10 is way way more than ZERO.

He remains as a backup dancer. Not needed until these boys fall or fail.


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[Wearmouth]

Apart from rucking, he doesn't do a lot. He does it well enough but in the modern game, the best rucks are the ones who do something else. He could be a good player but he doesn't really touch the ball elsewhere a lot.

He did better things in the ruck as a 20yr old, than Grundy was doing. At age 28. At least Begg was tapping the ball clear of the contest and allowing our mids a run at it. Unlike Grundy’s taps at his feet.


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[Wearmouth]

Considering he is in his 10th season, it's not bad you can question only two years of it. We can say what about his previous 7 years where he's won two Copelands and twice AA.....

Let’s not. Let’s focus on what he can do now. Which is of great concern. Considering we need a marking ruck. Not a follower who thinks he is an inside mid.


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[KillerMagpies]

Not many punters calling for Grundy’s inclusion?
Wow…

This week is going to be a tough week for selection. A lot of players will feel hard done by.
It’s a massive game against a tough opponent.
Based on Fly claiming Checkers and Howe should be ok…
OUT: Adams IN: Checkers
OUT: Cox IN: Grundy (if Grundy pulls up stiff, he plays VFL again).
OUT: Bianco IN: Carmichael (the kid is a bull. He needs to be played).

Medi sub: Henry.

 

[Wearmouth]

7 disposals and 3 tackles. he doesn't impact the game and doesn't get involved in many scoring chains. You have to do more than just apply pressure, he was ******* useless today

For his Raptor style attack and tackle on Boak he remains. And remains all year.

The kid is a beast. And is only limited by his own selflessness.

Those who don’t understand will never be able to understand why he is needed.

There is no one who can do what McCreery does. No one. Not on our list. Anyways.


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[domus]

Yeah and did * all else. 7 disposal's is appalling.

Not necessarily. Ginnivan kicked 3 today and probably had the same number of touches
MCceery impacts more with his defensive pressure and gut running.Just from the eye test I thought he was good and he nearly burst a lung chasing and pressuring for no stat.

 

[Wearmouth]

Did he? I'd have thought Grundy was very carefully time managed, maybe 50-55% TOG, but still managed 21 hitouts. The "D grade ruckman" seemed to play at least 85% TOG yet only had 28, and a significant number of those against Begg. I'm not saying Grundy starred but the hyperbole is hardly merited.

Champion data stats. 21 HO. To advantage or just that he got a touch to the ball before the other Ruckman. He was inconsequential to the win today. I couldn’t remember when he actually gave the mids a clear advantage. And that’s his problem. Hasn’t learnt a thing while injured.

That he thinks wrestling is what we need him to be doing is very disconcerting.

But Fly made his intentions felt by bringing DeGoey straight in. He is a needed commodity. Grundy is not.

He won’t be playing agains the Dreamons and will struggle to displace the the other boys just yet. 3/4 more weeks in the VFL.

Hey what’s so bad about helping the VFL boys win a premiership. Nothing wrong with that.


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[magpies42]

Let’s not. Let’s focus on what he can do now. Which is of great concern. Considering we need a marking ruck. Not a follower who thinks he is an inside mid.


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We need everything Grundy can bring. His following work is first class, he gets a spot purely on that. He tackles, he taps and he kicks straight at goal.

 

[Wearmouth]

Not many punters calling for Grundy’s inclusion?
Wow…

This week is going to be a tough week for selection. A lot of players will feel hard done by.
It’s a massive game against a tough opponent.
Based on Fly claiming Checkers and Howe should be ok…
OUT: Adams IN: Checkers
OUT: Cox IN: Grundy (if Grundy pulls up stiff, he plays VFL again).
OUT: Bianco IN: Carmichael (the kid is a bull. He needs to be played).

Medi sub: Henry.

After today’s performance on both games. Grundy is no chance of displacing either Cameron or Cox.

And you don’t f$&@k with form.

He waits and plays VFL again. Back up dancer is all he is now.


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[Wearmouth]

We need everything Grundy can bring. His following work is first class, he gets a spot purely on that. He tackles, he taps and he kicks straight at goal.

Are your eyes painted on. Are you not watching the past 10 games and what dynamic the Cameron and Cox combination has brought. Those marks are a very valuable commodity. These two boys have nearly averaged 10 per those games. And that is something that Grundy can’t do. And nor can he clear the contest with a tap over the top. His strengths aren’t things we need. Not if we want to keep winning.

He has never shown he can take telling defensive marks. His only attribute is he can tap to himself and get meaningless dump clearances. That the opposition read and cost us conga line goals.

So no thank you. I’m happy with our current 10-0 winning combination. And I suspect fly is also. That’s why he brought DeGoey straight in. And went Grundy the clearances king to the Magoos. That shows how much he rates his ruck craft.

And that’s where he’ll be come this coming weeks game against the Dreamons. No chance of displacing the other boys.


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[Matrix10]

ZERO MARKS…….

Very telling he hasn’t learnt a thing while injured.

We need them. About 5/6 per game.


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You either have it , or you don’t , he don’t

 

[jmac70]

Out: Howe, Adams and Cox
In: Checkers, Macrae and Grundy

 

[Matrix10]

Not many punters calling for Grundy’s inclusion?
Wow…

This week is going to be a tough week for selection. A lot of players will feel hard done by.
It’s a massive game against a tough opponent.
Based on Fly claiming Checkers and Howe should be ok…
OUT: Adams IN: Checkers
OUT: Cox IN: Grundy (if Grundy pulls up stiff, he plays VFL again).
OUT: Bianco IN: Carmichael (the kid is a bull. He needs to be played).

Medi sub: Henry.

No. Grundy is not coming in. Cox stays

 

[domus]

Are your eyes painted on. Are you not watching the past 10 games and what dynamic the Cameron and Cox combination has brought. Those marks are a very valuable commodity. These two boys have nearly averaged 10 per those games. And that is something that Grundy can’t do. And nor can he clear the contest with a tap over the top. His strengths aren’t things we need. Not if we want to keep winning.

He has never shown he can take telling defensive marks. His only attribute is he can tap to himself and get meaningless dump clearances. That the opposition read and cost us conga line goals.

So no thank you. I’m happy with our current 10-0 winning combination. And I suspect fly is also. That’s why he brought DeGoey straight in. And went Grundy the clearances king to the Magoos. That shows how much he rates his ruck craft.

And that’s where he’ll be come this coming weeks game against the Dreamons. No chance of displacing the other boys.


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Cox has played some great last quarter's. His height is a huge advantage late in games at the centre bounce and around the ground. I'd love a mini compilation of his taps and punches to our advantage.
I know Fly keeps citing our terrible clearance work and how good we were when Grundy was in the middle earlier this year but I don't recall Brodie thumping the pill 25m
at ball ups and throw ins as Coxy has done
I'd much rather Cox okay against Gawn and Jackson.

 

[Matrix10]

After today’s performance on both games. Grundy is no chance of displacing either Cameron or Cox.

And you don’t f$&@k with form.

He waits and plays VFL again. Back up dancer is all he is now.


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Back up dancer with the rhythm of a baby giraffe attempting Swan Lake on ice

 

[Finnishpie]

Champion data stats. 21 HO. To advantage or just that he got a touch to the ball before the other Ruckman. He was inconsequential to the win today. I couldn’t remember when he actually gave the mids a clear advantage. And that’s his problem. Hasn’t learnt a thing while injured.

That he thinks wrestling is what we need him to be doing is very disconcerting.

But Fly made his intentions felt by bringing DeGoey straight in. He is a needed commodity. Grundy is not.

He won’t be playing agains the Dreamons and will struggle to displace the the other boys just yet. 3/4 more weeks in the VFL.

Hey what’s so bad about helping the VFL boys win a premiership. Nothing wrong with that.


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Your iPhone is definitely getting a workout…

 

[Wearmouth]

Your iPhone is definitely getting a workout…

It’s got a mind of its own. Once it gets a roll on I just can’t stop it.

Kiitos.

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[Juan Ide]

Out: Howe, Adams and Cox
In: Checkers, Macrae and Grundy

No IN for Carmichael?