Strategy Changes & Pre-match Discussion - Round 24 vs. Essendon, MCG, Fri 25/08, 7:50pm

[manicpie]

Perhaps. But with hammys do we risk it? You’d hope we don’t IMO. It really is a pretty nothing game

I'd rather we have a look at Carmichael and reef than risk them

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

We'll see lol Thats what they said about Moore

I thought his was reported as 'tightness'

Which did seem an optimistic assessment after seeing how he left the ground.

I didn't see any footage of Bobby at training. Did you see it (when he became aware of his hammie) at training Jen?

 

[domus]

Deck chairs on the Titanic…

It's all over ? Season done?

 

[Jen2310]

I thought his was reported as 'tightness'

Which did seem an optimistic assessment after seeing how he left the ground.

I didn't see any footage of Bobby at training. Did you see it (when he became aware of his hammie) at training Jen?

Fly said tightness in his presser during the week.

No, I was on the other side, all I recall is him doing the warm ups, then lost sight of him after that. So between the warm up drills and match sim is where it happened.

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

Prob means he won’t be risked tbh with mccreery also likely out not ideal as speed is a huge issue of ours

Probably not. As long as we beat Bombers, I don't care who misses next week.

 

[manicpie]

It's all over ? Season done?

Nah, we'll be fine

 

[stormskye]

I'd rather we have a look at Carmichael and reef than risk them

If Murphy misses you’d think Howe goes back. Reef or Johnson come in.

Not sure where Carmy fits. Have to wait and see I guess

 

[manicpie]

If Murphy misses you’d think Howe goes back. Reef or Johnson come in.

Not sure where Carmy fits. Have to wait and see I guess

There's talk of resting Mitchell, maybe carmy could fill in

 

[domus]

St Kilda making our 8 point win over Geelong look less impressive by the minute

Silly. Every week it's a new game with different attitudes, ground and line ups.
You could play that game all night. The Blues fell in a against team we led 12 goals to 1.

Each week the game throws up new scenarios.

 

[IlovethePies]

Starting to think that since Bobby has a minor issue with the hamstring, he should not be risked next week. JDG should definitely come in though - he needs another run before finals.
I would also rest Murphy as a precaution.
Howe will have to come back to defence to provide leadership back there with both Murph and Darcy out.
If Elliott is even slightly injured, rest him.
So in the event of the worst possible scenario, my changes:
Outs: Murphy (inj), Elliott (inj/rest), Ryan (inj), McCreery (susp)
In: JDG, Ruscoe, McInnes, Harrison
Sub Harrison
Cox into the 22.

 

[3rdMan]

McCreery also out unless suspension is challenged.

 

[IlovethePies]

McCreery also out unless suspension is challenged.

Yeah, just realised that

 

[3rdMan]

We'll see lol Thats what they said about Moore

A bit different with Hill. McRae said on Friday night that Hill could have played. Assume this was after scans.

Should mean he's at least a chance to play. Don't think we'll be as cautious with him as others. Feel he and Ginnivan are playing for one spot, possibly the sub. So think we'd like Hill to play against Bombers. Though I guess performing against Bombers isn't going to alter our thinking much.

 

[TheGreatGrundy]

Starting to think that since Bobby has a minor issue with the hamstring, he should not be risked next week. JDG should definitely come in though - he needs another run before finals.
I would also rest Murphy as a precaution.
Howe will have to come back to defence to provide leadership back there with both Murph and Darcy out.
If Elliott is even slightly injured, rest him.
So in the event of the worst possible scenario, my changes:
Outs: Murphy (inj), Elliott (inj/rest), Ryan (inj), McCreery (susp)
In: JDG, Ruscoe, McInnes, Harrison
Sub Harrison
Cox into the 22.

We could just rest the whole team and play the VFL side. There's hardly a player yet to be nominated for a rest.

Personally, I would like to finish with a win. Otherwise, the only team we will have beaten in the last 4 weeks is Geelong, who in turn put in a very ordinary performance against St Kilda today. Jeremy Cameron very quiet - unlike against us.

 

[IlovethePies]

We could just rest the whole team and play the VFL side. There's hardly a player yet to be nominated for a rest.

Personally, I would like to finish with a win. Otherwise, the only team we will have beaten in the last 4 weeks is Geelong, who in turn put in a very ordinary performance against St Kilda today. Jeremy Cameron very quiet - unlike against us.

Good point re Cameron. How was it that St Kilda totally nullified Cameron, while he monstered us?
I think because St Kilda combined elite leg speed with massive attack on the contested ball.
They smashed Geelong as soon as the ball hit the ground, and in defence were always at the contest and got the ball to ground level where they dominated against a slow opponent.
Contested ball is an area where we have dropped off lately, either due to playing games of less significance, or tiredness.
Concerned also about the lack of speed in our mids.
The return of JDG will be very significant addressing this, but we will also have to look at other strategies (maybe Cox taking centre bounces, and using his height to just thump the ball forward, for example ).
That is why, if we have to find reinforcements from the VFL, for me McInnes is first cab off the rank because he has speed.

 

[Aussie pie]

You know the bombers will come out and play the match of their season against us and we’ll scrape by by a couple of points after GWS beat them by a million points.
Stringer will pull 5 goals out of nowhere and look like Gary snr and Draper will make Cameron look like, well he’ll look like Darcy Cameron

14

Darcy Cameron

Age

29

Ht

204cm

Wt

103kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

6.0

1star

K

3.3

1star

HB

2.7

2star

CL

0.3

2star

HO

5.3

5star

D

7.5

2star

K

4.5

2star

HB

3.0

2star

CL

0.5

3star

HO

3.5

5star

D

6.0

2star

K

3.3

2star

HB

2.7

3star

CL

0.3

2star

HO

5.3

5star

and get flogged.

 

[domus]

Yes, it will be the Bombers redemption game after that humiliation and we might have a battle on our hands. Sadly, I do not jest. Please make me look silly, boys.

 

[Capital Magpie]

Doubt Hill only misses 1 week with a hammy

Fly in the post match presser seemed very confident Hill would be right for the Ess game

 

[Apples]

OUT: Ryan - McCreery - Cameron
IN: Hill - De Goey - Ruscoe

Mitchell to sub.

Is Cameron injured?

 

[Collingwoodity]

While true they are unbelievably average, we'll win by 40+

Same team that nearly beat us earlier this year?

 

[TheGreatGrundy]

It was just hamstring 'awareness'.

Whatever that means.

While I sit typing this post, I am largely unaware I have hamstrings. I guess you're only aware when you do something to it and feel it complaining about the action you just demanded from it.

 

[3rdMan]

Out: Beau (susp), Murphy (inj), Ryan (inj), Mitchell
In: De Goey, Hill, Noble, Reef/Ruscoe

I'd drop Mitchell. Either cooked or struggling with something. Give him two weeks off before finals. If he's not good by then, don't play him.

Possibly one or two others to miss for management.

 

[gouki88]

Is Cameron injured?

I don’t think so (officially at least), but I want to see a full game of Cox as #1 ruck. Seemed our best option there

 

[larrikan]

I don't see Fly taking this game lightly now with regard resting players. I think he will play the best available team to get the balance right. We need as few changes as possible in the first final. There is the bye round after next week. So many players need to find form and this is an opportunity. Also, if we are evolving and need to react to how other teams beat us then we need to implement it next week as we should now play every game on the MCG.

Recent games have to be put into context. We had a massive game against Port interstate and backed up off a short break to play the Blues who had a training run against WC the week before. We caught the Hawks in strong vein of form. Beat the Cats (who couldn't back up after a tough game with us) and lost to Brisbane with our best players missing. Seriously don't listen to the media. Have faith. Our best is still the best.

I am sure Degoey and Hill were ideally rested to now make a run at the finals starting next week.

The only changes should be the forced changes.

Lets see what happens.


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[Frankie23]

This is not a dead rubber, if we lose this we can almost kiss goodbye to any chance we have of going deep into September - we need a confidence booster and restore some belief heading into the bye.

Also I’m of the opinion Mitchell needs to go from the midfield. Not getting it done inside, and lack of leg speed is killing us in transition.