Hopefully that BOG performance last week is the turning point for his season, really need him and Seed firing.
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The good thing is that none of our youth are getting dropped, but they certainly haven’t blooded many either over the last couple of weeks. If Schoenberg doesn’t get a gig at some point over the next month then what’s the point? Would be such a wasted season for him.
There hasn't been a winless season since the 50s? Or 60's?
Apart from not wanting that honour, I'd rather our new players taste a win or two in a season, preferably at home in front of a crowd so they know what to expect when they do it regularly.
Not convinced Butts is close. Need injury to Hartigan or Talia first then rely on McAsey not going back with a 2nd ruck returning.
Is Seed going back to his failed as a inside mid? What was Sloane playing, mid/fwd, that's really not Seed's go. We had 1 or 2 too many half backs/wings last week, and we've now added one more. This really is a shambles, but as long as Butts who hasn't earned a crack yet remains out, then it's hard to argue with the selectors. They've been getting this right for years.
Have we gone in one too small? Even though it's a night game, with a forecast of dry conditions they can mismatch us with height.
ROB 2.02 - Marshall 2.02
Tex 1.93, McAsey 1.97 - Wilkie 1.91, Howard 1.99
Kelly 1.89, Doedee 1.88, Hartigan 1.94, Talia 1.96 - Membrey 1.88, Ryder 1.96, Carlisle 1.99, King 2.02
St Kilda will also be able to rotate plenty of fresh talls on ROB and rest Marshall forward.
ROB 2.02 - Marshall 2.02
Tex 1.93, McAsey 1.97 - Wilkie 1.91, Howard 1.99
Kelly 1.89, Doedee 1.88, Hartigan 1.94, Talia 1.96 - Membrey 1.88, Ryder 1.96, Carlisle 1.99, King 2.02
St Kilda will also be able to rotate plenty of fresh talls on ROB and rest Marshall forward.
How will we know what he's like if we don't play him?
For the record he looks handy, good size and doesn't burn the ball.
Our key defenders are getting long in the tooth, this is the perfect time to be looking at Butts, Sholl and see if they can adjust to the pace of AFL football they are our future.
What have we got to lose apart from losing and we are already riding that train.
A stand out year followed by a trade for a pick in the teens would be the best outcome for us at 28 years old.
Might get a shot at a flag somewhere.
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Having Mackay and Seedsman together in the team is pure stupidity. Likely neither should be in the team but both is not what we need. We have plenty of run with Hamill, Smith, Jones, Seedsman. Surely we can have a look at Sholl or Schoenfeld. Some of these selections are as though they still think finals are a possibility. Ironically even if they were a possibility playing our youth would achieve better results. Need to wake up.
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More of Jones in the midfield which Sloane played most last week and Seedsman back to the wing where he play his best football.....not sure why they experiment Seedsman in the midfield in the first place early in the season, if we need more pace then play Jones there as that's his best position and more importantly for his development.
Stuff that, he’s one senior player who can actually contribute positively to a more attacking game plan that Nicks is trying to implement. Also a great leader for guys like Hamill, Sholl etc.
Height is rarely the determining factor in a marking duel when there's only a few cms in it. Positioning before ball arrival is much more important. Not many 22s include 3 KPDs and we're talking about less than 10 contested marks across the entire ground per game. Height is such an overrated attribute it's not funny.
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Good to see Mackay's 16 sterling disposals have locked him in for the remainder of the season.
It's like shuffling the chairs on the Titanic.
Tex is miraculously healed after one week's rest.
Have to play Schoenburg and Sholl.
The season is gone, play the kids.
Saints will smash us Monday.
It's like shuffling the chairs on the Titanic.
Tex is miraculously healed after one week's rest.
Have to play Schoenburg and Sholl.
The season is gone, play the kids.
Saints will smash us Monday.
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Exactly. That's why he's out IMO
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He won’t be playing for us when we push for a flag again in half a decade.
a mid teens draftee should. Makes sense to me.
Selectors are experts at what they do. We're playing heaps of kids, if he's not getting a game it's because he isn't good enough or doesn't yet deserve it. Needs to learn his craft in the 2s and when he's dominating down there, he'll get a crack. But until he puts in the effort, he's where he belongs.
Oh well, we just happened to walk into a short season with the worst performing senior group in decades and a largely untried junior group. Oddly, I think we can win Monday because the Saints aren't trustworthy at all. But to win a game, we'll need a team to bring near their worst and we near our best. I wouldn't worry about it unless we don't get more kids through. One or two wins won't make a difference long term. Getting games into talented kids will.
But that leaves Jone's forward minutes open. Who's replacing those? Seed, I presume. But more likely Seed replaces Sloane like for like.
You don’t just trade blokes over 28 for the sake of it, Greenwood’s form this year should show that. Brodie is a senior leader at our club who is very well respected by young and old, he is absolutely one that you keep. Involved very closely with Sholl’s development too.
As a tall bloke I'll agree to disagree
If they can get Carlisle or King one out on Kelly in space a few times we will be in a spot of trouble.
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A bigger deal out west.
Yeah, I'd be comfortable if we kept Smith. Had one good game, which is more than most of our leaders.
If he sticks for 2 more he might get 3 or 4 wins followed by 8 or 9. He'd then try and say it was the unavoidable bottoming out that we had to had and he's leaving us with a great foundation and on the up. We fail from there and it's not him, we continue upwards and it's all him. That's his best case if he can weasel his way into 2 more years.
But given our selection policy, which has gone quite sideways from what you and I had hoped, next year will likely be worse than this. And by gum, I'd want him here for that. He and the supporterbase deserve it.
As a tall bloke I'll agree to disagree
If they can get Carlisle or King one out on Kelly in space a few times we will be in a spot of trouble.
It'll still depend on positioning and delivery. Uncontested forward 50 marks are what you're aiming for. Separation is much more important than height. Hoping to out-height an opponent is the simplest of strategies. Which is why we favour it. Saints are just lucky that when we do win possession in their 50, we don't have the capacity to take advantage of their lack of ground ball pressure. Stop, look, stop, look sideways, deliver sideways. Stop, wait, look sideways, look forward, wait, play on call, kick long along the line.
Him and Brad Crouch are the 2 players that I'd most prefer to keep, but they're also the 2 that provide us the best rebuilding picks. Every other 27+ year old I'd be telling them that another club would be better for them and us, so explore your options and we'll see if we can get a deal done. Except Talia. Look to move on 4 for decent picks and/or upgrades. Look to bring in 2 hardened bodies on the cheap. We need to get rid of the stench of 2018-2019 ASAP but can't do it all at once and need some reasonably hardened bodies around the place.
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We didn't just trade him for the sake of it though, we traded him because we were going into rebuild mode and he was almost 28 looking for a 4 year deal, we offered him a contract but weren't prepared to meet his demand re contract length, and going by what he's said since money wasn't the issue.
