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AFLW 2024 - Round 9 - Indigenous Round - Chat, game threads, injury lists, team lineups and more.
Yeah, nah... not even close to our worst blunder as has actually played some decent games.You’d have to go a long way to find a player drafted in the top 10 with less spatial awareness and/or a lower football IQ. Has absolutely no idea what he’s doing on the field, or what’s going on around him. Embarrassing recruiting.
Considering what else was available here (Butters), Chayce at pick 9 is in the worst 3 draft blunders in the history of the club.
Those were before the modern science of drafting, much more guesswork back then.Yeah, nah... not even close to our worst blunder as has actually played some decent games.
Consider these other 1st round picks who played less than 10 games for us.
#7 - Angwin - 4 games
#8 - Meesen - 6 games
#13 - Gilligan - 3 games
#14 - Watts - 6 games
Then there is #6 - McAsey on 10 games who is looking a worse prospect than Jones.
As the previous poster mentioned, not much science went into it back then. All were poor picks, but honestly the recruiters prior to about 2007 were throwing darts most of the time. Nowhere near enough resources, no combine, far more of a crap shoot. Top 10 draft picks were thrown around like candy in trades for 29 year olds back then too.Yeah, nah... not even close to our worst blunder as has actually played some decent games.
Consider these other 1st round picks who played less than 10 games for us.
#7 - Angwin - 4 games
#8 - Meesen - 6 games
#13 - Gilligan - 3 games
#14 - Watts - 6 games
Then there is #6 - McAsey on 10 games who is looking a worse prospect than Jones.
At least Jones had potential AFL qualities (pace, ball winning as a junior)As the previous poster mentioned, not much science went into it back then. All were poor picks, but honestly the recruiters prior to about 2007 were throwing darts most of the time. Nowhere near enough resources, no combine, far more of a crap shoot. Top 10 draft picks were thrown around like candy in trades for 29 year olds back then too.
Jones is very lucky to be getting a game. He wouldn’t be in about 12-15 other sides. He was drafted as a midfielder and has failed miserably in that role. His exploits as a defender are hugely overrated by some on here and if what he’s put together qualifies as “decent” from a guy selected before Zak Butters (and Jordan Clark, and Nick Blakey, and even Isaac Quaynor), then I think that’s pretty damn generous. He’s just not very good at anything (yes, he’s less terrible than McHenry, but Zak Butters wasn’t available when Ned was taken).
Worst 3 draft blunders for me, since drafting became a professional occupation are:
Jones over Butters
Gallucci over English
McAsey over Serong / Young / Pickett / Day
Honourable mentions to Milera over Curnow (in fairness, Milera has been crippled by injury and Curnow got done drink driving in the leadup to the draft) and McHenry over literally anyone with a pulse (Tom Sparrow my favourite taken after him).
I agree, but Chayce’s complete lack of footy IQ is there for all to see, plus where we drafted McHenry, the next 10 or so picks were mostly pretty shit players too.At least Jones had potential AFL qualities (pace, ball winning as a junior)
McHenry and McAsey didn't even have obvious AFL attributes that you'd expect from a first rounder
Story of his career so far. Teases, looks good for a quarter or so and is invisible the rest of the time.After a very good game… a decent first quarter and then nothing at all. Completely nothing.
Sigh
That run he did last week where he used his elite pace and did a 50m kick which went just above Walker was very good, had he straighten the delivery it might have bounced and resulted in a 80m running goal. He was one of a very few who looked good in the 1st quarter until that easy set shot miss and then went missing for the remaining 3 quarters.I agree, but Chayce’s complete lack of footy IQ is there for all to see, plus where we drafted McHenry, the next 10 or so picks were mostly pretty s**t players too.
Just imagine Butters, English and Serong right now instead of Chayce, a delisted slot and McAsey. It’s such a huge difference. O’Brien would be trade bait with English in the ruck (or maybe they could co-exist), and Butters and Serong would add some much needed class to our horrendous midfield mix.
Chayce mostly uses his much-vaunted pace these days to run into trouble, or to almost spoil marks, or to overcommit to a contest, allowing his opponent to play on. The ball-winning was a lot easier for him playing against kids - he could play 300 games (he won’t) and he’d literally never rack up 25 touches even once in the big league. He’s a complete bust, and the sooner we move on, the better.
Its fantastic when we can pin point one good (basic) thing a player can do in a game.That run he did last week where he used his elite pace and did a 50m kick which went just above Walker was very good, had he straighten the delivery it might have bounced and resulted in a 80m running goal. He was one of a very few who looked good in the 1st quarter until that easy set shot miss and then went missing for the remaining 3 quarters.
Lol. “McHenry over anyone with a pulse”As the previous poster mentioned, not much science went into it back then. All were poor picks, but honestly the recruiters prior to about 2007 were throwing darts most of the time. Nowhere near enough resources, no combine, far more of a crap shoot. Top 10 draft picks were thrown around like candy in trades for 29 year olds back then too.
Jones is very lucky to be getting a game. He wouldn’t be in about 12-15 other sides. He was drafted as a midfielder and has failed miserably in that role. His exploits as a defender are hugely overrated by some on here and if what he’s put together qualifies as “decent” from a guy selected before Zak Butters (and Jordan Clark, and Nick Blakey, and even Isaac Quaynor), then I think that’s pretty damn generous. He’s just not very good at anything (yes, he’s less terrible than McHenry, but Zak Butters wasn’t available when Ned was taken).
Worst 3 draft blunders for me, since drafting became a professional occupation are:
Jones over Butters
Gallucci over English
McAsey over Serong / Young / Pickett / Day
Honourable mentions to Milera over Curnow (in fairness, Milera has been crippled by injury and Curnow got done drink driving in the leadup to the draft) and McHenry over literally anyone with a pulse (Tom Sparrow my favourite taken after him).
I honestly don’t think our coaches would have been able to get English, Butters and Sering to the standard they are today.I agree, but Chayce’s complete lack of footy IQ is there for all to see, plus where we drafted McHenry, the next 10 or so picks were mostly pretty s**t players too.
Just imagine Butters, English and Serong right now instead of Chayce, a delisted slot and McAsey. It’s such a huge difference. O’Brien would be trade bait with English in the ruck (or maybe they could co-exist), and Butters and Serong would add some much needed class to our horrendous midfield mix.
Chayce mostly uses his much-vaunted pace these days to run into trouble, or to almost spoil marks, or to overcommit to a contest, allowing his opponent to play on. The ball-winning was a lot easier for him playing against kids - he could play 300 games (he won’t) and he’d literally never rack up 25 touches even once in the big league. He’s a complete bust, and the sooner we move on, the better.
That’s called development my friendI put ALL those magnets in the bin yesterday, after seeing what the Swans have accumulated in a short space of time.
Before anyone goes the simpleton academy defence, have a look at where they drafted a heap of their players, 30s/40s/50s/rookies. Every one of them is skilled and tough.
Over to you Justin and Hamish, you need to get a lot right this off season. Be creative please, we need to strike now!
I'm sure they would, but they'd taken Will Gould 2 picks before so didn't need another defender.How many games have we given Worrell to test him out in the big league?
Sydney would have got him in there and tested him out, we dont
Yeah that's a strange one by Sydney standardsI'm sure they would, but they'd taken Will Gould 2 picks before so didn't need another defender.
How's Gould been going?
Go get ‘em ChayceI see the annual Jones puff piece is out.
love it ……… but on the list you go
Is that the 'special' list ?love it ……… but on the list you go
I think he just outted himself as Santa.Is that the 'special' list ?