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Chris Judd's Kicking Efficiency
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Re: Chris Judd's Kicking Effecieny
lol? Pointing at the scoreboard when you're barely in the 8. That's like something Kyle Reimers would do.
How are your boys going by the way lol
lol? Pointing at the scoreboard when you're barely in the 8. That's like something Kyle Reimers would do.
Gautama
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I think you'll find he's got a lot of that speed back. He's certainly quicker than any Hawks midfielders so it won't be an issue.
I think you'll find he's got a lot of that speed back. He's certainly quicker than any Hawks midfielders so it won't be an issue.
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It's nothing like what he was doing at West Coast.
He's not even quicker than Cyril with a bad groin. And what do Hawk midfielders have to do with it? We're only one side out of 15 that you have to play this year.
It's nothing like what he was doing at West Coast.
He's not even quicker than Cyril with a bad groin. And what do Hawk midfielders have to do with it? We're only one side out of 15 that you have to play this year.
absfab
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Possibly. But thinking that you can throw your weight around when your side has a recent winning ratio of about 1 in 10 is pure HodgePodge.....
You seem to overlook the fact that Carlton is on steady improvement curve. While Hawthorn managed to drop only 8 places in 2009, and look a good thing to drop another 3 or 4 in 2010.
Wonder which I'd rather be on?
Possibly. But thinking that you can throw your weight around when your side has a recent winning ratio of about 1 in 10 is pure HodgePodge.....
You seem to overlook the fact that Carlton is on steady improvement curve. While Hawthorn managed to drop only 8 places in 2009, and look a good thing to drop another 3 or 4 in 2010.
Wonder which I'd rather be on?
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Fair dinkum? I didn't know he was still in touch with Chick and Kerr.
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Yes - Plays the game a bit differently now.
At WCE, Judd by any measure was a top 3 player in the comp.
At Carl, Judd by any measure after 2.25 seasons is a top 3 player in the comp.
He has become the king of the contested ball. At WCE he was more free running.
Its a bit like oranges and apples.
We all loved his speed, accelaration, goalkicking at WCE. Now we have his hardball, contested possessions.
Yes - Plays the game a bit differently now.
At WCE, Judd by any measure was a top 3 player in the comp.
At Carl, Judd by any measure after 2.25 seasons is a top 3 player in the comp.
He has become the king of the contested ball. At WCE he was more free running.
Its a bit like oranges and apples.
We all loved his speed, accelaration, goalkicking at WCE. Now we have his hardball, contested possessions.
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Gardiner's here, had no hesitation getting on the phone to Juddy when Mitch Robison was out of a line.
Gardiner's here, had no hesitation getting on the phone to Juddy when Mitch Robison was out of a line.
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Re: Chris Judd's Kicking Effecieny
Some of the carlton fans replies have been way off topic.
This thread has nothing to do with his speed of contested ball ablility. We all know he is first class in those areas.
But his kicking in below the quality of someone who is rated in the top 5 players in the league.
That is the issue!
Some of the carlton fans replies have been way off topic.
This thread has nothing to do with his speed of contested ball ablility. We all know he is first class in those areas.
But his kicking in below the quality of someone who is rated in the top 5 players in the league.
That is the issue!
Re: Chris Judd's Kicking Effecieny
His kicking isn't a strong point. When he was draft it was a major weakness of his and it was the ? mark to whether he was going to make it at AFL. Obviously its not BAD, however it could be better. He's an average kick, no more no less, there are way worse out there but there are alot better as well. If he had a say Drummond like kick he'd be out of this world.
His kicking isn't a strong point. When he was draft it was a major weakness of his and it was the ? mark to whether he was going to make it at AFL. Obviously its not BAD, however it could be better. He's an average kick, no more no less, there are way worse out there but there are alot better as well. If he had a say Drummond like kick he'd be out of this world.
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I'm throwing my weight around?
I'm not going to change anything, regardless of where my team sits on the ladder. It means nothing with regards to my observations about other sides.
What did I say about Carlton's improvement?
Why are you talking about your team like it's a short-term decision?
It's not a question of preference at all . . . You pick a team at an early age and you stick by them throughout thick and thin. At least that's the way I've always done it.
I'm throwing my weight around?
I'm not going to change anything, regardless of where my team sits on the ladder. It means nothing with regards to my observations about other sides.
What did I say about Carlton's improvement?
Why are you talking about your team like it's a short-term decision?
It's not a question of preference at all . . . You pick a team at an early age and you stick by them throughout thick and thin. At least that's the way I've always done it.
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Wow. Just wow.
You realise that Judd won just as many contested possessions at West Coast don't you?
Look it up.
Wow. Just wow.
You realise that Judd won just as many contested possessions at West Coast don't you?
Look it up.
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Oh I never disagreed with the topic at hand - Judd has always been an average kick, but the rest of his game compensates.
I never said anyone was jealous of Carlton either. I simply stated one basic fact. Let me put it in bold for you, since I know how much you love it: Judd>Hodge
Oh I never disagreed with the topic at hand - Judd has always been an average kick, but the rest of his game compensates.
I never said anyone was jealous of Carlton either. I simply stated one basic fact. Let me put it in bold for you, since I know how much you love it: Judd>Hodge
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Zac Dawson is the best kick in the league. Didn't he average around 95% effieciency last year?
Seriously I would back Juddy's kicking and decision making against most players in the AFL. The fact that he doesn't solely rely on his kicking is testament to his other attributes.
Zac Dawson is the best kick in the league. Didn't he average around 95% effieciency last year?
Seriously I would back Juddy's kicking and decision making against most players in the AFL. The fact that he doesn't solely rely on his kicking is testament to his other attributes.
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Sewell should come to Carlton if he's so talented. He's wasting his time with a bottom of the ladder rabble.
Yes his kicking is average but lets be honest, he'd be a top 3 player in any team in the league. We'll put up with his inadequacies.
Sewell should come to Carlton if he's so talented. He's wasting his time with a bottom of the ladder rabble.
Yes his kicking is average but lets be honest, he'd be a top 3 player in any team in the league. We'll put up with his inadequacies.
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And the commentators just gloss right over it a well.
When Judd did that diabolical turnover where he kicked it backwards to a St.Kilda player the commentators blamed the Carlton backline.
And when he kicked to a lead on the wing and it fell 5 m short and rolled out of bounds the commentators said it was a good result for Carlton.
Unbelievable, the comment that his kicking efficiency is poor because he has blokes hanging off him is dribble. He only kicks when he's in about 3m of space and it's usually a spud worthy kick
And the commentators just gloss right over it a well.
When Judd did that diabolical turnover where he kicked it backwards to a St.Kilda player the commentators blamed the Carlton backline.
And when he kicked to a lead on the wing and it fell 5 m short and rolled out of bounds the commentators said it was a good result for Carlton.
Unbelievable, the comment that his kicking efficiency is poor because he has blokes hanging off him is dribble. He only kicks when he's in about 3m of space and it's usually a spud worthy kick
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I don't know what you guys are on about, I reckon he is a great kick. Kicking efficiency is a stat that can't be used without context.
Defenders will always have the best efficiency and midfielders and half forwards will have the worst as they kick to more contests.
Judd isn't the best kick going around, but he is a bloody good kick, and I would happily class his kicking as elite. His kicking at West Coast was outstanding, but he and Cousins had Kerr and Stenglein doing alot of inside work for them.
I don't know what you guys are on about, I reckon he is a great kick. Kicking efficiency is a stat that can't be used without context.
Defenders will always have the best efficiency and midfielders and half forwards will have the worst as they kick to more contests.
Judd isn't the best kick going around, but he is a bloody good kick, and I would happily class his kicking as elite. His kicking at West Coast was outstanding, but he and Cousins had Kerr and Stenglein doing alot of inside work for them.
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Hodgepodge tells others about reality, i nearly pissed my self laughing. If anyone anywhere every need a reality check
Hodgepodge tells others about reality, i nearly pissed my self laughing. If anyone anywhere every need a reality check
laminex
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Re: Chris Judd's Kicking Effecieny
Wow, makes a statement of fact then asks other to look it up for him. How is this troll not red carded, just for being lazy to start with
Wow, makes a statement of fact then asks other to look it up for him. How is this troll not red carded, just for being lazy to start with
Re: Chris Judd's Kicking Effecieny
He isn't an elite kick. I'd say he'd have average kicking skills, or just above average. To be fair however, he barely ever has free space to execute his skills like other players do.
He isn't an elite kick. I'd say he'd have average kicking skills, or just above average. To be fair however, he barely ever has free space to execute his skills like other players do.
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Re: Chris Judd's Kicking Effecieny
Watching Judd over the past few years, he was well short of the messiah that graced Subiaco oval. He didn't have the burst speed, whilst he won clearances - they weren't the brilliant ones where he'd burst clear and open the game up - they'd be short handballs within the contest.
However this year he has definitely got most of his burst speed back in addition to the contested ball he has always dominated - he's now starting to get the clear ball - his goal from the stoppage last night is evidence of that - the last 2 years he would have been caught.
I don't think he'll ever be the white lightning he was from 2003-07 - age, groin injuries, and the extra bulk he carries will do that - but the disparity has greatly reduced.
In terms of his kicking - i wouldn't say it is poor - but it's not on Goddard's level either. The one thing he was always good at was goals on the run - and that seems to be coming back now to.
Watching Judd over the past few years, he was well short of the messiah that graced Subiaco oval. He didn't have the burst speed, whilst he won clearances - they weren't the brilliant ones where he'd burst clear and open the game up - they'd be short handballs within the contest.
However this year he has definitely got most of his burst speed back in addition to the contested ball he has always dominated - he's now starting to get the clear ball - his goal from the stoppage last night is evidence of that - the last 2 years he would have been caught.
I don't think he'll ever be the white lightning he was from 2003-07 - age, groin injuries, and the extra bulk he carries will do that - but the disparity has greatly reduced.
In terms of his kicking - i wouldn't say it is poor - but it's not on Goddard's level either. The one thing he was always good at was goals on the run - and that seems to be coming back now to.
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Agree with this. Also, you have to acknowledge that Judd is pretty much always moving the ball forward with long and risky kicking. I would have a kicking efficiency of 95% if I played like a crab.
Sure he sends out a few helicopters, but at least he is taking the game on.
On another note, I dont rate Ablett as an elite kick either. There is something about the trajectory of his kicking that puts me off - simply not penetrating enough.
Agree with this. Also, you have to acknowledge that Judd is pretty much always moving the ball forward with long and risky kicking. I would have a kicking efficiency of 95% if I played like a crab.
Sure he sends out a few helicopters, but at least he is taking the game on.
On another note, I dont rate Ablett as an elite kick either. There is something about the trajectory of his kicking that puts me off - simply not penetrating enough.
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Are you sure sport? Better some research on the contested ball stats for us please.
And.... He won just as much contested ball at WC but he ALSO used to burst away with it.
Now he just rushes and racks up the clangers.
Are you sure sport? Better some research on the contested ball stats for us please.
And.... He won just as much contested ball at WC but he ALSO used to burst away with it.
Now he just rushes and racks up the clangers.
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Possibly the first untroll like, correct post I have seen you punch out.
Possibly the first untroll like, correct post I have seen you punch out.
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Re: Chris Judd's Kicking Effecieny
I would agree that the shitness of your observations has not changed. Perhaps, with work, it could improve slightly. Probably a long shot, but you never know.
Another wilful misinterpretation.
And don't lecture me, child. I only take notice of grown ups.
I would agree that the shitness of your observations has not changed. Perhaps, with work, it could improve slightly. Probably a long shot, but you never know.
Another wilful misinterpretation.
And don't lecture me, child. I only take notice of grown ups.
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