Traded Chris Yarran [to Richmond for Pick 19]

[Rodney Dangerfield]

Every year tiggers fans go into a state of hysteria when they are in a position where they can't be knocked out of the finals.
Look at this year after they beat the Hawks.
Keep a lid on the hype and they will go further

It may or may not surprise you but we fans have absolutely **** all to do with on ground results.

 

[Tiger71]

So reading between the lines both clubs have probably agreed to a deal and Richmond need pick 17 to make that happen, so would expect this to be wrapped up late Monday / early Tuesday.

Thats how i see it. win/win

 

[Tigersss]

Hopefully Hawthorn give Carlton 15 for Yarran and we can move on.
North have fallen for the old overrated fringe player at the top team gag.

if hawks miss out on carlisle, they will get yarran guaranteed !!!
im stating this now!!

 

[telsor]

As far as I am aware, Richmond are doing what it takes to get a late first round pick. Not sure how they're doing it - but that is what is happening.

Early 1st round = 1-6
Mid 1st round = 7-12
Late 1st round = 13-18 (Where Yarran is valued)

Richmond also stated 19-22 a possibility.

Indeed, that's my understanding too....but bmaurizio categorically declared Carlton required a mid first, and when called on it insisted he didn't make it up, because 'only children do that'.

We're just trying to get his source.

 

[ARES]

Every year tiggers fans go into a state of hysteria when they are in a position where they can't be knocked out of the finals.
Look at this year after they beat the Hawks.
Keep a lid on the hype and they will go further

I for one was more confident this year than other two
We just needed to win that first final, but we played a side that always matches well against us and has had the edge
They rested most of their squad, it worked in their favour

 

[Heisenberg_]

I think both sides need to grow up a bit and acknowledge even though Yarran has a high ceiling, his year this year has impacted his value. He is worth a lower first round/ high second round. if we offered pick 21, i have no doubt the blues would take it but out of respect, we are trying to get a better pick and some blue fans are hating on the tigers for doing so, it makes no sense

The reason I reckon they are hating on it is that the reality has hit them that they won't be getting pick 12 or Lennon for him, when they were oh so certain the messiah SOS would ensure they did

 

[Heisenberg_]

Anderson goes for pick 15 and steak knives despite only playing 10 games. Should put things in perspective.

Just because one club wants to overpay for a player doesn't mean we have to.
Irrelevant

 

[telsor]

Anderson goes for pick 15 and steak knives despite only playing 10 games. Should put things in perspective.

That Yarran isn't as highly rated?

 

[Bostonian]

That Yarran isn't as highly rated?

That other clubs just get deals done for players they want.

 

[telsor]

The reason I reckon they are hating on it is that the reality has hit them that they won't be getting pick 12 or Lennon for him, when they were oh so certain the messiah SOS would ensure they did

I am loving their latest 'logic' however.

Seems we agree he's worth 15, but however many times I ask, no source is given, so my best guess it's that we concede that it's fair Carlton wants a late first (although they ignore us saying we value him as early 20s in the same interview) and somehow conclude that 15 is a 'late first', therefore we think he's worth that...(if any Carlton fan wants to provide a better explanation of why they keep mentioning pick 15, I'm all ears, but as I said, I've asked a number of times and got nothing).

From that, somehow 15 is close enough to 12, so we should just hand over 12 and get the deal done.

So us thinking he's worth an early second, but accepting that Carlton wants a late first means we should just hand over 12.....huh???


These same people who think 12 is near enough to 15 have conniptions at the thought that instead of a first rounder, they might get a pick like 21 ( because 15->12 is so much closer than 18->21????? ).

 

[Kramer1]

The reason I reckon they are hating on it is that the reality has hit them that they won't be getting pick 12 or Lennon for him, when they were oh so certain the messiah SOS would ensure they did

Hating on it? Please. First round pick is a great outcome for us.

We've had weeks of Richmond supporters telling us exactly what will and won't be happening, stating fact, even mods claiming they have seen the 'heads of agreement' and we were apprently set for disappointment. It's a talented individual that can back pedal and sugar coat at the same time.

 

[telsor]

That other clubs just get deals done for players they want.

2 problems with that...

1) There is a big difference between 12 and 31, and both clubs agree he's worth somewhere in the middle, so we're taking some time to secure that pick.

2) Those other clubs aren't dealing with Carlton.

 

[TigerTime88]

17 or 21 IMO.
Depending on the Astbury deal.
If we give Astbury and 31 it will be for 17.
If its just Astbury it will be 21.
We just got pick 120 from GWS. How about we do Yarran for 120 and call it even?

Gee take that and run. Astbury is not worth pick 21 on is own. Pick 30 and Astbury for 21 I think is reasonable...then we throw 21 to Blues.

I wonder if Brisbane are happy to bring in young talented 21-24 yr olds because at least they know they want to be there.

Yarran will be a gun at Richmond...looking forward to the deal being sorted.

 

[telsor]

Hating on it? Please. First round pick is a great outcome for us.

We've had weeks of Richmond supporters telling us exactly what will and won't be happening, stating fact, even mods claiming they have seen the 'heads of agreement' and we were apprently set for disappointment. It's a talented individual that can back pedal and sugar coat at the same time.

Having read the Carlton board thread on this the only conclusion that could be reached is that pick 12 is unders....How is it that a late first a 'great outcome'?

 

[footyfan1978]

Hopefully Hawthorn give Carlton 15 for Yarran and we can move on.
North have fallen for the old overrated fringe player at the top team gag.

I'd be ok with pick 15 for Yarran but do not think that will happen. Hawks need to also use a first round pick in the draft for long term. Hodge and Mitchell can not stay around forever. I think Carlton and Richmond will eventually do a deal but Tigers need to get their hands on a pick 18 or 19 to probably get it done. The fact the Hawks have pick 15 and were originally showing an interest in Carlisle but he still looks like going to Saints does make you wonder. I do however think when the chips finally fall Carlise goes to St.Kilda and Yarran goes to Richmond later next week. St.Kilda cannot afford to give up straight pick 5 for Carlisle and Richmond cannot afford to give up pick 12 for Yarran so both trades are taking time for those clubs to find another option to get close to what Essendon and Carlton will accept in return.

 

[Love the Drake]

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2 problems with that...

1) There is a big difference between 12 and 31, and both clubs agree he's worth somewhere in the middle, so we're taking some time to secure that pick.

2) Those other clubs aren't dealing with Carlton.

Only two points and you

 

[Kramer1]

Having read the Carlton board thread on this the only conclusion that could be reached is that pick 12 is unders....How is it that a late first a 'great outcome'?

Only conclusion? Most of us are doing backflips of unbridled joy. Unless of course you are just picking out the 5% of posts that support your argument and ignoring the very great vast majority...course, that would never happen on BF.

 

[Love the Drake]

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2 problems with that...

1) There is a big difference between 12 and 31, and both clubs agree he's worth somewhere in the middle, so we're taking some time to secure that pick.

2) Those other clubs aren't dealing with Carlton.

You've made only two points and got them both wrong..

1) your club has acknowledged that yarran is worth a first rounder - this leaves your first point WRONG (31 was their ambit claim)
2) Carlton have a contracted player. Richmond have chased said player. Richmond must make the play. Their first bid of 31 was embarrassing in these circumstances. So to set you straight, Richmond are hard to deal with. Point 2 WRONG.

3) a new point for you. Richmond will give up a pick between 15-18. They are working feverishly to make it happen. A lot closer to 12 than 31...so now who's hard to deal with?

 

[Bostonian]

2 problems with that...

1) There is a big difference between 12 and 31, and both clubs agree he's worth somewhere in the middle, so we're taking some time to secure that pick.

2) Those other clubs aren't dealing with Carlton.

Astbury isn't worth 17. But if Brisbane really want him they'll just go pay that I assume. Anderson wasn't worth 15, but North wanted him. Melksham isn't worth 25, but Melbourne wanted him.

 

[SickQwon]

Astbury isn't worth 17. But if Brisbane really want him they'll just go pay that I assume. Anderson wasn't worth 15, but North wanted him. Melksham isn't worth 25, but Melbourne wanted him.

Agree.

Trade value =/= player value

However, I think pick 17 is very close to what Yarran is worth in this circumstance

 

[MightyTiger]

Astbury isn't worth 17. But if Brisbane really want him they'll just go pay that I assume. Anderson wasn't worth 15, but North wanted him. Melksham isn't worth 25, but Melbourne wanted him.

It's ok, you wont be getting pick 12 for Yarran.

 

[Elton Johns Wig]

Agree.

Trade value =/= player value

However, I think pick 17 is very close to what Yarran is worth in this circumstance

if this happens I think everyone walks away pretty happy. The only problem will be the lack of melts from either side....

 

[TigerTime88]

Best part of this will be when Yarran gets BOG round 1

 

[Malifice]

Best part of this will be when Yarran gets BOG round 1

'Not worth pick 12'

 

[ARES]

'Not worth pick 12'

Not really, will become the softest player at the Tigers