List Mgmt. Christmas comes early (Nov 28 - 19 sleeps) - Draftee discussion

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Link to draft picks held by each club

 

[WCE_phil]

tis a shame he doesnt get enough ball or instinctively look like getting more. That and his kicking is meh.

He is fast, powerful and has already played WAFL league though.

He's borderline top 20 for me but he did finish tye season well.

 

[ronpingwins]

“If there’s a WA talent compared to a talent from over east, I think you go with the local talent just so there’s never any incentive to leave at any given stage.”

Meanwhile Logue, Hogan, Lobb, etc...

Acres..I don't understand why we'd all of a sudden be so focussed on local products. There's been no signs that we have any issues with retention. Just avoid the explicit flight risks like Sheezel

 

[Sammy J]

Still want Wardlaw tbh

 

[The wily weagle]

Still want Wardlaw tbh

He meets our biggest need, granted

On paper, he would be perfect. But serious recurrent hamstring injuries at his age, with our medical team??

We just cannot in good sense make that selection

 

[CountryLad]

He meets our biggest need, granted

On paper, he would be perfect. But serious recurrent hamstring injuries at his age, with our medical team??

We just cannot in good sense make that selection

Probably won’t be there at our pick if his hammies are okay anyway with North potentially losing JHF.

 

[Farang83150]

Listening to the qtrs duff PC, big wraps on westperths Jack Bulla, never heard of him, worth a train on spot?

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Listening to the qtrs duff PC, big wraps on westperths Jack Bulla, never heard of him, worth a train on spot?

Hear he melts when the heat is on.

 

[Schtinker]

Listening to the qtrs duff PC, big wraps on westperths Jack Bulla, never heard of him, worth a train on spot?

Jack Buller | WAFL

wafl.com.au

 

[Monocle]

Listening to the qtrs duff PC, big wraps on westperths Jack Bulla, never heard of him, worth a train on spot?

Argh ….. that would be Claremont’s Jack Buller 198 cm KPF, without checking I think about 21/22.
Has had a history of back injuries.

Very handy WAFL player however he doesn’t possess the agility or speed that would be needed at the next level, plus for a KPF his accuracy at goal is average.

 

[plays tall 1]

Buller the cream of the WAFL crop then?

 

[Cornelius Roy]

Argh ….. that would be Claremont’s Jack Buller 198 cm KPF, without checking I think about 21/22.
Has had a history of back injuries.

Very handy WAFL player however he doesn’t possess the agility or speed that would be needed at the next level, plus for a KPF his accuracy at goal is average.

Cadman from Wish?

 

[Westcoast88]

We hold the chips here. We have Pick 2 and unless we are getting an awesome deal why would we bend over for Port?

Because the club is keen to slide back into a draft range where they can pick up some local talent. That might mean we take a slightly less favourable offer (depending on how you look at it) in order to obtain WA talent. Basically the local talent lure is whats playing the role in the club flirting with these offers.

 

[Bender_]

Buller the cream of the WAFL crop then?

*Bulla

 

[Cornelius Roy]

Because the club is keen to slide back into a draft range where they can pick up some local talent. That might mean we take a slightly less favourable offer (depending on how you look at it) in order to obtain WA talent. Basically the local talent lure is whats playing the role in the club flirting with these offers.

If this is the case, and the second worst team in the comp doesn't have the confidence to take the top rated 6-7 players in the draft, we really need to start putting work into WA kids early around letting other clubs know of their desire to stay home.

Draft is meant to be there to equalise the competition, in it's current state shit's ****ed.

 

[Westcoast88]

If this is the case, and the second worst team in the comp doesn't have the confidence to take the top rated 6-7 players in the draft, we really need to start putting work into WA kids early around letting other clubs know of their desire to stay home.

Draft is meant to be there to equalise the competition, in it's current state s**t's *ed.

I can only surmise that with player movements becoming more and more prevalent this may have spooked the club a little hence the negotiations going on at the moment.

I called it early based on what i was told and it seems to have eventuated this way so far. Who knows where it will all lead, hopefully they dont get themselves too ripped off in the pursuit of avoiding the go home factor.

 

[plays tall 1]

*Bulla

Mountain out of a molehill?

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

We're trading down and targeting home grown talent like checks notes Dan Houston

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Dan Houston

Age

27

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186cm

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88kg

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Def

Career

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Last 5

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18.2

5star

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11.8

4star

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6.4

4star

M

4.9

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T

3.0

5star

MG

289.2

4star

D

17.6

4star

K

11.6

4star

HB

6.0

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.4

4star

MG

319.9

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16.6

4star

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12.4

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4.2

4star

M

7.0

5star

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2.6

4star

MG

279.8

5star

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[The Passenger]

The WA prospect behind West Coast’s willingness to “slide six spots” in pick two trade

“He’s going to be a future 200-gamer.”

www.sen.com.au

“From (pick) one to about 15 (it’s very even), yes, Ashcroft is a clear number one, but you can throw a net over about six or seven of them that will offer something quite unique.

The above seems to be the pretty common refrain and from the bits of video I've seen it seems pretty bang on the mark.

Even Ashcroft doesn't stand out from the pack to me. Big accumulator for sure but damage per disposal is pretty meh.

I must admit I don't know enough about Reuben Ginbey to say if he is a genuine top ten pick in this draft, but he has a lot of attributes we are looking for in our next midfielder. If only Wardlaw's hammies weren't such a problem, although North would probably take him for sure in this case.

 

[TerryFilk]

“From (pick) one to about 15 (it’s very even), yes, Ashcroft is a clear number one, but you can throw a net over about six or seven of them that will offer something quite unique.

The above seems to be the pretty common refrain and from the bits of video I've seen it seems pretty bang on the mark.

Even Ashcroft doesn't stand out from the pack to me. Big accumulator for sure but damage per disposal is pretty meh.

I must admit I don't know enough about Reuben Ginbey to say if he is a genuine top ten pick in this draft, but he has a lot of attributes we are looking for in our next midfielder. If only Wardlaw's hammies weren't such a problem, although North would probably take him for sure in this case.

To be honest, Shep has no idea what he’s talking about. This draft is not even from 1-15

Love Shep but he’s kind of just hammering the oh WC will want WA mids rhetoric that the media spit out even know we almost always draft interstate talent with our first rounders

 

[The Passenger]

This draft is not even from 1-15

This seems to be the general consensus though?

Maybe not all the way to 15, but definitely the first ten(ish) picks seem to have more question marks than most seasons and it feels like we could pick any of about 8 players with our pick #3... Normally at this stage that third pick is whittled down to 2 or 3 options and maybe one outsider if they tested well at the combine.

Curious to see where you reckon the dropoff is this year?

My days of paying real close attention to the draft stopped about ten years ago and since moving to the UK about a five-minute highlight package on the top 5-10 prospects is about as much time as I have for it now. Maybe I'll get more into it from next year as West Coast are going to be rooted down the bottom end of the table for at least two more seasons.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

This seems to be the general consensus though?

Maybe not all the way to 15, but definitely the first ten(ish) picks seem to have more question marks than most seasons and it feels like we could pick any of about 8 players with our pick #3... Normally at this stage that third pick is whittled down to 2 or 3 options and maybe one outsider if they tested well at the combine.

Curious to see where you reckon the dropoff is this year?

My days of paying real close attention to the draft stopped about ten years ago and since moving to the UK about a five-minute highlight package on the top 5-10 prospects is about as much time as I have for it now. Maybe I'll get more into it from next year as West Coast are going to be rooted down the bottom end of the table for at least two more seasons.

From everything I've read there seems to be the first 5 or so, then maybe the next 5 or so, and then another 5 or so.

Like it's rare for someone rated around 8-10 to be in someone else's phantom draft as a top 5 pick.

 

[The Passenger]

Like it's rare for someone rated around 8-10 to be in someone else's phantom draft as a top 5 pick.

That seems to be what I'm seeing quite regularly. Feels like I've seen Clark, Mackenzie, Tsatas, Cadman, Phillipou all landing anywhere from 3 to just outside top 10, but maybe I need to have another look. Like I said though, being UK-based it seems like I'm constantly on the back foot and even though most people get their info online (which I can do myself) now you just don't go incidental information in your day-to-day life, which does make a difference.

Might also be I'm out of practice given our lack of access to high picks since 2010. Must admit I'm finding this one pretty confusing.

 

[Schtinker]

This is a post from one of our resident Draft Watchers which gives an insight into the draftees Rankings (Not necessarily where they go in the draft)
As you can see there is still a bit of talent in the Top 9 but it depends on what you're looking for.

Draft Expert - Davo-27's 2022 u18 Draft Thread

It It'll continue as long as we have the amount of stoppages we do. Mathews touched on this himself I seem to recall. As long as the game keeps being altered to cause more stoppages, we have to have bigger bodies around the stoppages. Most don't realise but once "prior opportunity" came in...

www.bigfooty.com

1. Will Ashcroft - 180cm 76kg - Sandringham (Bris F/S)
2. Harry Sheezel - 184cm 77kg - Sandringham
3. George Wardlaw - 182cm 81kg - Oakleigh
-----------------------------------------------------------Elite Tier ^
4. Aaron Cadman - 194cm 88kg - GWV
5. Elijah Tsatas - 186cm 79kg - Oakleigh
6. Cam MacKenzie - 187cm 80kg - Sandringham (StK NGA)
7. Jhye Clark - 181cm 77kg - Geelong
8. Mattaes Phillipou - 191cm 83kg - WWT
9. Jedd Busslinger - 196cm 82kg - East Perth
------------------------------------------------------------ Top Tier ^
10. Reuben Ginbey - 189cm 85kg - East Perth
11. Bailey Humphrey - 184cm 86kg - Gippsland
12. Lewis Hayes - 197cm 81kg - Eastern
13. Elijah Hewett - 186cm 82kg - Swan Districts
14. Matthew Jefferson - 194cm 76kg - Oakleigh
15. Isaac Keeler - 198cm 88kg - North Adelaide (Adel NGA)
16. Oliver Hollands - 184cm 71kg - Murray
17. Adam D'Aloia - 186cm 86kg - WWT
18. Mitch Szybkowski - 186cm 84kg - Dandenong
19. Jaspa Fletcher - 184cm 73kg - Bris A (Bris A)
20. Brayden George - 185cm 87kg - Murray
21. Anthony Munkara - 186cm 77kg - NT/West Adelaide (Ess NGA)
22. Olli Hotton - 181cm 77kg - Sandringham
23. Tom McCallum - 192cm 78kg - Tasmania
--------------------------------------------------------------- High Quality Prospects ^
24. Coby Burgiel - 183cm 76kg - Gippsland
25. Henry Hustwaite - 194cm 84kg - Dandenong
26. Al Davey Jnr - 181cm 74kg - Oakleigh (Ess F/S)
27. Jed Hagan - 175cm 73kg - East Fremantle
28. Darcy Jones - 175cm 67kg - Swan Districts
29. Josh Weddle - 191cm 87kg - Oakleigh
30. Kobe Ryan - 183cm 73kg - West Adelaide
31. Harry Barnett - 202cm 93kg - West Adelaide
32. Lachlan Cowan - 188cm 81kg - Tasmania
33. Luke Teal - 188cm 78kg - Oakleigh
34. Charlie Clarke - 182cm 75kg - Sandringham
35. Brandon Leary - 177cm - Tasmania
36. Hugh Bond - 184cm 81kg - GWV
37. Shadeau Brain - 185cm - Bris A (Bris A)
38. Will Dowling - 187cm 79kg - North Adelaide
39. Jonti Schuback - 183cm 75kg - Gippsland
40. Noah Long - 178cm 74kg - Gippsland
41. Ed Allan - 194cm 82kg - Claremont
42. Archie Lovelock - 178cm 72kg - Glenlg
42. Callum Verrell - 187cm 79kg - Eastern
43. Blake Drury - 177cm 73kg - Oakleigh
44. Jacob Konstanty - 176cm 70kg - Gippsland
45. Cooper Vickery - 180cm 72kg - Gippsland (Haw NGA)
46. Jake Walker - 184cm 85kg - Glenlg
47. Jaiden Magor - 185cm 79kg - South Adelaide
48. Sam Gilbey - 188cm 71kg - Claremont
49. Harry Rowston - 180cm - Calder/GWS A (GWS A)
50. Harry Lemmey - 199cm 93kg - West Adel
---------------------------------------------------------------- Quality Prospects ^

other good prospects that have good qualities: J.Ryan, Scully, Hempel, Penny, J.Davey, Harvey, J.Lawrence, Petric, K.Windsor, Ashwin, M.Clohesy, T.Clohesy, Northam, O'Sullivan, Binns, Van Es, Fogarty, Wright, McMullin, C.Mitchell, Foster, Michaelanny, Sadler, Michael, MacNeill, Cleaver, Green, Julian, Cole, Campbell, Madden, Knobel and Campbell-Farrell, special mention: L. Bailey(Dand)

 

[TerryFilk]

This seems to be the general consensus though?

Maybe not all the way to 15, but definitely the first ten(ish) picks seem to have more question marks than most seasons and it feels like we could pick any of about 8 players with our pick #3... Normally at this stage that third pick is whittled down to 2 or 3 options and maybe one outsider if they tested well at the combine.

Curious to see where you reckon the dropoff is this year?

My days of paying real close attention to the draft stopped about ten years ago and since moving to the UK about a five-minute highlight package on the top 5-10 prospects is about as much time as I have for it now. Maybe I'll get more into it from next year as West Coast are going to be rooted down the bottom end of the table for at least two more seasons.

Not one knowledgeable person will describe this draft as even through 1-15, there’s a clear top 5 - then another clear top 5 of the next tier of guys, then an even 10 or so guys

 

[CountryLad]

I’m pretty keen on Eagles holding onto pick 2. We need to see Warlord test at the combine and take a chance on his hammies if he’s gets past North at pick one.
End of the day he’s better than Ashcroft so you just don’t pass on that quality even if there is risk.

We may want to go talls next year in the draft and this is a draft full of mids so get the best one.

If he tests really poorly at the combine and the club doesn’t like his medicals and interview then fine trade down on draft night.